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ll74 said:
Publicly, we have capitulated to Russia.

Whether you believe someone is playing 4d chess in private is not my issue.

There is absolutely nothing that forgives what 47 has done in regards to Russia in the public sphere. He has bent over and taken it in the ass from Putin. That is what he has done.
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Alright you tell me what Trump's first move should be in this "negotiation."
 
Rightguide said:
Bullshit. Have you ever been involved in a real negotiation? This isn’t about finger-pointing or scoring moral victories. it’s about making peace. You don’t bring people to the table by hurling accusations or insisting on one-sided blame. A successful negotiation focuses on the future, not just the past, and requires taking the concerns of both sides seriously. The goal isn’t to punish, but to find a workable solution, one that acknowledges realities, builds common ground, and moves everyone forward.
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American Revolutionary war, American Civil war, First Boer war, Second Boer war, Korea and Vietnam, all have the same thing in common about their ending. Can you guess what wrongway?
 
ll74 said:
Not difficult to do.
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True, but sadly you failed to.
ll74 said:
An incorrect statement was what I pointed out. You created a narrative around the statement based on your bias that wasn't there.
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I never created anything. I'll be back to past in where she said it first, unfortunately I can't quote it, and all yours at the same time.
ll74 said:
I've not defended anyone.
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Sure you didn't
Lazaran said:
Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang will NOT admit they were WRONG, and they will go on pretending that “no one knew” what would happen once President Musk (and DonOld) took office.

🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

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ll74 said:
She admitted she was wrong. Multiple times in this thread.
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Fuzzy1975 said:
And you think that makes her what? She voted for Trump, she owns this.....fuck her if she's sorry about it. People are dying because of who she voted for. She can own that.
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ll74 said:
I'm not saying she is anything.

I'm simply pointing out the incorrect statement.
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Fuzzy1975 said:
What you are pointing out, is she said she was wrong about what Trump would do about Ukraine. If you think that makes her any less wrong, that's you're right. Laz doesn't, and neither do I.
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ll74 said:
She admitted she was wrong about 47.
That is what I'm pointing out.

Laz said she didn't do so.

I don't give a fuck about your other horseshit.
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Fuzzy1975 said:
No she admitted she was wrong about what she thought Trump would do in regards to Ukraine. Not that she was wrong about voting for Trump, she's still cheerleading on the other fronts.
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ll74 said:
Oh fuck off. She said she was wrong about his foreign policy.. multiple times here.

If you want to be a pedantic fuckhead, that's your issue.

Laz was wrong.... I pointed it out. There is nothing gained by your argument
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Fuzzy1975 said:
Words matter, and Chloe is a writer. She said "she thought"....She voted for Trump, fuck her. I have no forgiveness to offer a dumb cunt like that. You wish to, that's your right. Just don't expect me or Laz or a multitude of other to behave the same as you.
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ll74 said:
Fuck off.

Nobody asked for your forgiveness.
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Fuzzy1975 said:
lol....
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ll74 said:
Nobody gives a fuck whether you forgive them for their comments or actions.
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Fuzzy1975 said:
Then why are you here defending her? That's kind of contradictory to the above.
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ll74 said:
I'm not defending her. Being a pedantic one, I'd expect you understand that.
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Fuzzy1975 said:
Well you sure fooled me......*chuckles*
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ll74 said:
They are already at the table.

Ukraine is not at the table because the US left them out.
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They have not started in earnest yet, Trump has spoken to Putin, he's spoken to Zelensky, and he's spoken to key European leaders on how to procede.
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
True, but sadly you failed to.
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Nope

Fuzzy1975 said:
I never created anything. I'll be back to past in where she said it first, unfortunately I can quote it, and all yours at the same time.
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Laz lied. I pointed that out. Chloe never said "no one knew". She has said she was wrong about what she thought would result multiple times in this thread.

Fuzzy1975 said:
Sure you didn't
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Nothing I've said defends her. Laz lied. Plain and simple.

You can post whatever notes you need to come to terms with being wrong.
 
Rightguide said:
They have not started in earnest yet, Trump has spoken to Putin, he's spoken to Zelensky, and he's spoken to key European leaders on how to procede.
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Russia is literally having talks with the US administration in Saudi Arabia.

I.e. - "at the table"
 
ll74 said:
Russia is literally having talks with the US administration in Saudi Arabia.

I.e. - "at the table"
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Yes on how to proceed in Ukrainian peace talks. We have to know the positions of both sides to have those talks.
 
ll74 said:
Nope


Laz lied. I pointed that out. Chloe never said "no one knew". She has said she was wrong about what she thought would result multiple times in this thread.


Nothing I've said defends her. Laz lied. Plain and simple.

You can post whatever notes you need to come to terms with being wrong.
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Taking lessons from bobo now I see.
 
Rightguide said:
Yes on how to proceed in Ukrainian peace talks. We have to know the positions of both sides to have those talks.
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We knew the positions of both sides long before this administration took office.

47 has publicly agreed to capitulation of Russia and denigrated the country defending itself against invasion.
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
No I'm just dropping out of an endless circle of you white knighting the cunt chloe....fuck her, fuck her regret.
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Your opinion of her is irrelevant.
Laz lied.
I pointed it out and you have issues accepting it and need to blame me.
I don't support her vote for 47. I have not defended her vote.
 
Fuzzy1975 said:
What you are pointing out, is she said she fwas wrong about what Trump would do about Ukraine. If you think that makes her any less wrong, that's you're right. Laz doesn't, and neither do I.
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The imbecile you are responding to doesn’t have a clue about what I intended when I called out Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang.

Not only has Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang NOT admitted they were WRONG about pretty much everything involving President Musk (and DonOld), but they continue to LIIE / SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION about President Biden, Vice President Harris, and Democrats in general.

WHEN Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang ADMITS they were WRONG for voting for President Musk (and DonOld), and ADMITS they were WRONG about President Biden, Vice President Harris, and Democrats in general, THEN we can begin to have a discussion.

Until. THEN…

We. Told. Them. So.

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Fuzzy1975 said:
lol

Her other postings, after her discovery of Trump doing exactly what Trump said he was going to do.....
Yah she still supports him........fuck her, and fuck her regret.
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Broken record of stupid.
 

Trump says Putin would accept European peacemakers in Ukraine in potential peace deal​

Trump said these remarks during a press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron at the White House.

By Charlotte Hazard
Published: February 24, 2025 2:25pm

President Donald Trump said Monday that Russian President Vladimir Putin would accept peacemakers from Europe in Ukraine as part of a possible deal to end the war between the two countries.

Trump mentioned Putin’s concession during a press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron at the White House.

“Yeah, he will accept it,” Trump answered when a reporter asked him about European peacemakers in Ukraine as part of a deal to end the war, according to The Associated Press. “I have asked him that question. Look, if we do this deal, he’s not looking for World War.”

Members of Trump's administration spoke with Russian officials last week about potential ways to end the war in Ukraine.

Trump and Macron had a meeting prior to the press conference where the Russia-Ukraine war was likely discussed.

https://justthenews.com/accountabil...ould-accept-european-peacemakers-ukraine-part

There is some progress you 1174 didn't expect. It's a negotiation.
 
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