For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Politruk]

No, it was the Ukrainians oppression and killing of 14,000 Russian-speaking people in the Donbas for whatever reason

That never happened. This is what happened.

 

[ll74]

Tell us why?

Because Putin wanted to bring Ukraine under Russian control.

 

[Rightguide]

You don’t have to speak for the president. He spoke for himself, yet you still seem willing to look the other way.

Sycophant: See @Rightguide

No, you are failing to understand what is really happening versus what the leftwing echo chamber is saying. You have no idea what is being said in those negotiations.

 

[Politruk]

Because Putin wants to make Russia a world power of the first rank once again, and the international community cannot afford to allow that.

 

[Rightguide]

Bullshit. Putin invaded Ukraine

Putin kidnapped Ukranian children.
Putin is the aggressor.

Yes, but why? Was it because he thought he had too many troops and wanted to cull his ranks?

 

[ll74]

No, you are failing to understand what is really happening versus what the leftwing echo chamber is saying. You have no idea what is being said in those negotiations.

Trump and Rubio have both openly said what they mean. Capitulation to Russia.
Plain and simple.

 

[ll74]

Yes, but why? Was it because he thought he had too many troops and wanted to cull his ranks?

Putin wants Ukraine back as part of Russia.

Imperialism.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...on-is-an-imperial-war-to-return-russian-land/

 

[Politruk]

Because Putin wants to make Russia a world power of the first rank once again, and the international community cannot afford to allow that.

This is the only reason any of this is happening. If Russia had a president reasonable enough to accept his country's reduced status, there would be no war. Russia has no reason to fear a situation in which all the countries on its western border are NATO members.

 

[Rightguide]

I am repeating what the administration has said publicly.

The only problem I have is a complete public dismissal of the Ukranian people in favor of Russian capitulation. Whether you believe there is a larger "plan" that results in our ally, Ukraine, having any demands met or not isn't my issue.

The Ukrainian people haven't spoken on the subject. Zelensky hasn't allowed an election since his term expired on May 20, 2024. He is a dictator at this point with poor poll numbers.

 

[Rightguide]

You have no intelligence or integrity. Cannot speak to your experience -- anything you posted about that would be a lie anyway.

Defining you as a man would indeed be a lie.

 

[jason28053]

Yes, but why? Was it because he thought he had too many troops and wanted to cull his ranks?

Why the fuck do you think? He wants their land and resources and to put back you the old USSR.

 

[Politruk]

The Ukrainian people haven't spoken on the subject. Zelensky hasn't allowed an election since his term expired on May 20, 2024. He is a dictator at this point with poor poll numbers.

The Ukrainian constitution does not allow elections in wartime. And if there were an election, Zelensky could not be replaced by a candidate who wanted to settle the war Trump's and Putin's way. Only a real warhawk would have a chance.

 

[Rightguide]

Putin wants Ukraine back as part of Russia.

Imperialism.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...on-is-an-imperial-war-to-return-russian-land/

No. he doesn't. Show me where he said he wanted all of Ukraine. He couldn't govern all of Ukraine and he knows it.

 

[ll74]

The Ukrainian people haven't spoken on the subject.

Yes, they continue to stand in defense of their country.

Zelensky hasn't allowed an election since his term expired on May 20, 2024. He is a dictator at this point with poor poll numbers.

Putin is a dictator.

The Ukranian Parliament has maintained martial law since the invasion. A fifth of the country is under occupation by hostile forces. A large majority of the country is fighting against invaders.

In accordance with the Ukranian Constitution, an election will not be held until the Ukranian Parliament withdraws martial law. The next renewal is scheduled for May 2025.

 

[jason28053]

The Ukrainian people haven't spoken on the subject. Zelensky hasn't allowed an election since his term expired on May 20, 2024. He is a dictator at this point with poor poll numbers.

Great Britain didn’t have an election for 10 years during WWII, did that make Churchill a dictator!? You are straight up repeating Russian talking points!

 

[ll74]

No. he doesn't. Show me where he said he wanted all of Ukraine. He couldn't govern all of Ukraine and he knows it.

I just did. He wants all original Russian terroritory.

 

[jason28053]

No. he doesn't. Show me where he said he wanted all of Ukraine. He couldn't govern all of Ukraine and he knows it.

You are too stupid to believe!

 

[Rightguide]

Why the fuck do you think? He wants their land and resources and to put back you the old USSR.

Don't come back until you can show me a public statement by Putin expressing that goal. Just one will do.

 

[Rightguide]

You are too stupid to believe!

Then pull your panties up and get the fuck out and stop boring us to tears.

 

[AlexBailey]

No, you are failing to understand what is really happening versus what the leftwing echo chamber is saying. You have no idea what is being said in those negotiations.

You idiot. I’m referring only to your hero’s own words.


https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-trump-war-zelenskyy-putin-7fe8c0c80b4e93e3bc079c621a44e8bb

WHAT TRUMP SAID: “You’ve been there for three years. You should have ended it. ... You should have never started it. You could have made a deal.”


Just fuck off with your sniveling propaganda simp shit. Your anti-intellectualism makes every conversation here a race to the bottom.

 

[jason28053]

Don't come back until you can show me a public statement by Putin expressing that goal. Just one will do.

You think he’s openly gonna say that? How fucking stupid are you?

 

[ll74]

You think he’s openly gonna say that? How fucking stupid are you?

He did.

 

[jason28053]

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[jason28053]

I missed that, but it doesn’t matter we all know that is his goal! All except stupid people

 

[ll74]

I missed that, but it doesn’t matter we all know that is his goal! All except stupid people

Reichy doesn't actually care for facts.

The Putin and 47 cocks in his mouth do all the talking