For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ll74]

> There was ONLY one battalion, expanded into a regiment in 2023 and Incorporated into Ukrainian defence forces, and mostly taken out in Mariupol
> Mostly Luhansk and Donetsk
> Not sure since Ukraine does NOT publish their looses, but if you consider that about 1/2 of all dead are conscripts dragged off Ukrainian streets and the rest are so called " nationalists" ( NAZIs) and it is suggested in total of about 500,000 dead then around 250,000 ? but nobody knows.
> Ditto on your last question... I only know about ONE Nazi plot it is called Maidan and it was created by Victoria Nuland.

Tried my best to answer your irrelevant questions. I will answer questions you have not asked and maybe you should have. All prior to Russian invasion

If Russia's reason for invasion was to take out the Nazis, why aren't THEY giving any updates on their success?

> How many newspapers, TV and radio stations, publications and school books catering to Russian minority ( majority in certain sections) are there? Answer: NONE

Wtf are you talking about?
Of course RT exists in Ukraine. There is much more censorship of news in Russia than in Ukraine.

> Is a Russian minority ( majority in certain sections) recognised as a minority in Ukrainian constitution? Answer: NO

Are blacks or lesbians or Irishmen recognized as a minority in the American Constitution?
No

> Is Russian orthodox church and its 1000 years tradition banned in Ukraine? Answer: YES

Theres a reason for that. It involves kidnapping of Ukranian children.

> When was Stepen Bandera, a documented mass murderer, NAZI collaborator and Jew and Poles killer declared a national hero? Answer: 2018

And?

> Are all surviving members of SS division Galicia, members OAN-B and Trawniki regiment receiving state pensions? Answer? Yes

And?

... I could go on but why there is NO balanced view. So I am done.

You're correct. You have no balanced view...only the Russian horseshit that you've swallowed.

Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukraine is defending itself from invaders. That is not propaganda.... It is literally what has occurred.

If Nazis were the reasoning, then Russia should provide an update on that objective.

How many were there to begin with?
How many are there now?

 

[Celand]

Deutsche Welle headline .

Ukraine bans pro-Russian TV stations​

02/03/2021February 3, 2021
Ukraine's pro-Western president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has signed decrees banning pro-Russian media outlets. The broadcasters had their licences revoked and are set to stay off the air for the next five years.

now I am done !

 

[ll74]

Deutsche Welle headline .



now I am done !

Keep telling me that you're done as if I care.

The internet exists.

Ukraine doesn't censor it's internet.


Russia censors it's internet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Russia

 

[ChloeTzang]

Deutsche Welle headline .

now I am done !

WW2 Britain banned pro-Nazi broadcasting and news. The answer is, "So? Where's the issue?"

 

[Lance_Castro]

Ukraine is the breadbasket and industrial heartland of that part of europe.

I’m surprised the americans arent more enthused about keeping it in the west’s influence.

It’s almost like the us government is pro russian.

 

[ChloeTzang]

In 2025, Ukraine is making more FPV drones than it is artillery shells. Way more drones. Their budget for 2025 quadrupled drone production over 2024, and woth the help of pther countries financial aid, they are increasing that amount further. Germany is pouring additional funding into Ukraine's cruise missile development. The last three years has been Ukraine holding the line. 2025 is when the tide begins to turn....

The ISW is reporting that drones are killing twice as many targets as every other weapons System on the Ukrainian battlefield COMBINED. The ZSU reports that drones are turning 85% of all Russians that the ZSU targets into good Russians.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine is the breadbasket and industrial heartland of that part of europe.

I’m surprised the americans arent more enthused about keeping it in the west’s influence.

It’s almost like the us government is pro russian.

It's amost like Trump is a Russian agent. When one tries to think of what he could do to help Putin without making it blatant enough that even the GOP would impeach him, it's hard to see what more he could be doing. And I mean that seriously. He's definitely compromised in some way.

 

[Lance_Castro]

It's amost like Trump is a Russian agent. When one tries to think of what he could do to help Putin without making it blatant enough that even the GOP would impeach him, it's hard to see what more he could be doing. And I mean that seriously. He's definitely compromised in some way.

I just want to see the pee tapes.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine Special Forces Strike in Vladivostok

Explosions rocked the Russian city of Vladivostok early on May 30, targeting the deployment area of the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade, NV sources said. The blasts were the result of a special operation carried out by Ukraine’s military intelligence agency (HUR), the sources confirmed. At least two explosions were reported near Desantna Bay: one at a checkpoint and another where troops and command staff of military unit 30926 were stationed. According to NV's sources, the operation targeted Russian personnel, military equipment, and specialized hardware. Local Russian Telegram channels reported that at least 10 ambulances and an evacuation helicopter were dispatched to the site. Damaged military equipment was reportedly removed from the base in Ural trucks.

In an apparent attempt to cover up the incident, Russian local authorities claimed that the explosions were caused by "two gas cylinders" and insisted that "no one was injured." However, other Russian sources said a "counterterrorist operation regime" had been declared in the city following the blasts. Roads around the military facility have been sealed off.

The three day special military operation is proceeding to plan.

https://english.nv.ua/russian-war/a...ckpoint-and-another-where-troop-50518277.html

 

[ll74]

I just want to see the pee tapes.

Your fetish isn't political

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russian Army Reaching a Dead End.....

The Modern Muscovite Army: An Adaptive Dead End
Putin's ground forces are so badly deteriorated that where Ukraine's defenders can keep enough drones in the sky, they dominate the battlefield. Drone superiority is in sight.

This week in the Ukraine War saw the last vestiges of Team Trump’s peace process burn away, both sides unleashing record-sized drone strikes amid a notable intensification of the fighting on the ground. Putin strung Trump along for weeks, then essentially flipped him off in front of the whole world, which could be why US forces in Europe were allowed to ramp up surveillance orc assets from the Black Sea even before Trump unleashed a tirade against Putin.

And so the Ukraine War wound up right where it always had to in the middle of 2025: everyone knows that peace can only come after a lot more blood is shed. Since Ukraine has less of that to spare, drones must carry the load.

Amid all the doom and gloom that accompanies international media coverage of the fighting in Ukraine stands a singular truth: Putin has expended his Soviet inheritance only to achieve a result that would make Stalin weep, given that the vast majority of ruscist gains in Ukraine came well before most losses. The Soviet stocks will never be rebuilt; Moscow will never again pose the same level of mortal threat it would have in any future war, had its deep reserves remained intact.

A new trend in explaining away Moscow’s astonishing failures in Ukraine is to look at how much material Moscow is producing right now and extrapolate that out five or ten years. While useful rhetoric insofar as it mobilizes resources, the bulk of apparent Muscovite production since 2023 has come from refurbishing Soviet gear. New tanks and armored vehicles amount to a fraction of needs. This, and not any real tactical advantage, is why so many orcs are sent to their deaths riding motorcycles or ATVs at Ukrainian lines.

If hordes of soft-skinned civilian vehicles escorted by motorcycle cavalry were remotely viable as a strategy for sustaining an operation, the Soviets would have adopted the tactic eight decades ago. Those T-34s and Katyushas weren’t built for nothing, nor were all the American trucks and planes imported to haul fuel and ammo to them. Anyone who has studied the incredible death and rebirth of the Red Army in the wake of the Axis invasion that began in 1941 knows just how desperate Moscow was to find a way to stop the German onslaught. Anti-tank mines strapped to dogs was one novel (awful) innovation that miserably failed. Though in the Soviets’ partial defense, the Germans also tested this after seeing a Soviet attempt. Trick is, a frightened dog is liable to run towards whoever makes it feel safest, which typically isn’t people from the other side.

Today, the orcs are not equipping their assault units with dirt bikes because this is optimal. They’ve gone down this road because they’ve lost over 20,000 armored troop carriers. Quickly reaching Ukrainian positions does not automatically negate all the advantages that Ukraine’s drone-first warfare confers on the defender. A BMP can lay down covering fire until it is destroyed, and will tend to attract attention. Several can force a series of Ukrainian positions to collapse if improperly supported. When the orcs were advancing regularly on more fronts last year, Ukrainian soldiers were having to fend off both dismounted infantry and their parent BMPs, maybe even a tank. This meant more soldiers positioned close to the front line than is required to hold off survivors of a motorcycle rush.

Firepower still wins, and effective adaptation to motorcycle attacks is straightforward: wire obstacles and land mines work. Send a tank to crush them or engineers to blow them up, and drones just have to neutralize that target first. But if you’re an orc officer, not advancing when your superiors’ records show that you have been allotted sufficient troops, improvised vehicles, and fire support isn’t an option. The safest career choice is to order an advance then report whatever happens. Since some survivors out of a motorcycle swarm might make it two or three kilometers before having to go to ground, you might even get a medal from Moscow once a drone shows someone waving a Soviet flag.

A military bureaucracy is like any other - the people in the machine do what they do to get through the day, not because they are living their best life. I’m not saying that people don’t enjoy the work, only that a military job isn’t all that different than any other kind. There are tasks to be done during your shift, then comes time to rest before doing it all over again. And being human - if part of a machine utterly without humanity - every orc is first and foremost trying to survive. The ones who aren’t any more, you sometimes see just laying there on the ground looking around as if taking the day off despite having to know that a drone must on the way to zero them out. I guess when the alternative is being tortured by your own people after being accused of desertion…

It is the fact that Putin’s army has degenerated into a mass of contract soldiers mostly there for the paycheck which makes it impossible to organize a viable offensive campaign worthy of the name. Every Ukrainian has an incentive to embrace any possible means of keeping both themselves and their comrades alive, because they’re the wall between their loved ones and the tender mercies of the orcs. This difference always tells in time.

But in the meantime, Ukraine’s task is to absorb what should be the last great ruscist summer rush, Putin’s bid to grab what he can before being forced onto the defensive indefinitely. That every message he is attempting to send through diplomatic and military channels suggests faith in ultimate triumph reveals Putin’s game. The truly confident simply do what they will and let others pick up the pieces. Whenever anyone bluffs, it’s because they’re worried they might not win.

Thesimple reality is, top Ukrainian battle groups are tearing apart orc offensives again and again with remarkable efficiency.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Front Overview
Andrew Tanner
May 29

Moscow is certainly giving the impression of launching a new grand offensive, beginning with a major uptick in the intensity of attacks on Ukrainian cities and more pushes on the ground. At the moment, however, it remains more a re-intensification back towards the peak levels of orc activity seen this winter. Muscovite tactical and operational patterns remain essentially unchanged since winter, even if there is some variation between fronts and civilian vehicles are replacing heavy armor. That’s not to imply that orc tactics aren’t perpetually evolving, or that every operation is run according to a simple script. But there is enough commonality across footage and reports to recognize that the orcs are following a coherent doctrine - but not one that truly takes into account the new balance of power on the battlefield thanks to Ukraine’s drone-based fight.

Instead, the orc generals have repackaged traditional Muscovite tactics that trade disposable members of their society for constant pressure on the enemy. The theory is that, like waves crashing against the shore, this erosive action eventually triggers a broader collapse. Stalin’s offensives in 1944 and 1945 were basically this taken to an extreme. A serious problem with this approach is that the number of bodies that have to be exposed to enemy fire to guard a given stretch of front has radically declined over the past year. To cope with Moscow’s doctrine of endless pressure, Ukraine has counter-adapted, holding the front line with as few soldiers as possible. The job of a Ukrainian grunt in a forward position is to lay down enough fire that the orcs in their sector can’t quickly rush into their trenches and bunkers. Drones, mortars, artillery, and tanks converge on the crisis point and wipe out the attackers. If the enemy breaks through, the Ukrainian team can retreat while their fire support keeps working. Depending on the value of the positions abandoned and the strength of the enemy, a counterattack may be ordered, ideally with fresh troops.

The positional value component of the equation is a tough one to accurately gauge, and too often leaders over-estimate how much of an impact losing a given spot will have. When the enemy chooses to commit scarce combat power to accomplish something, that tells you something about how they see the landscape. As the basic objective in any fight is to neutralize the enemy’s ability to do as they please, figuring out their goals gives you a serious advantage. However, understanding of this principle - and even more, the ability to put it into practice in the field - is uneven across Ukraine’s defenders. So sometimes, apparently about one orc assault out of ten, something goes wrong. In those cases, exposed Ukrainian teams risk death or capture, which is all too often the same thing thanks to a clear ruscist policy choice to execute Ukrainian POWs as part of a misguided bid to undermine Ukrainian morale.

After this long at war, both sides have an intimate awareness of certain tendencies which drive the other. Muscovite generals eager to report progress to their masters know full well that Ukraine must always minimize casualties. Giving the appearance of securing terrain is also important for orc leaders, because that’s what Moscow cares about, but also because Ukrainians sometimes fight too hard for ground that isn’t presently the best place to commit precious resources. So the orcs have another incentive pressing them to constantly attack. But to successfully seize defended ground depends on getting enough bodies and gear to a point on the map - then sustaining them in place. This creates a vicious conundrum for orc commanders: the more soldiers concentrated closer to Ukrainian positions, the higher the toll on logistics teams who wind up constantly at risk of drone attack. Attacking the Ukrainians is like punching quicksand.

Muscovite forces have not started conserving their stocks of armored vehicles because these are no longer relevant on the battlefield. They’re simply too scarce to waste, reserved for when Moscow really needs to ramp up pressure. Motorcycle rushes and endless streams of infantry teams can, it is true, overwhelm forward Ukrainian positions and allow an orc offensive to advance by several kilometers in the space of a few days. But ever since armored vehicle stocks started running critically low over winter, the orcs are never able to capitalize on a tactical breakthrough of this size. Moscow’s march from Avdiivka to Pokrovsk and capture of Vuhledar and Velyka Novosilka in 2024-2025 - Moscow’s biggest operational success since 2022 - was dearly bought by waves of armored vehicles. A series of grinding operations allowed the orcs gain ground at a faster rate than is seen today, but Ukrainian adaptations and improving logistics led to ruscist troops breaching a given defense line only to discover holding on, much less consolidating for the next blow, to be extremely difficult. The attrition rate forced the shift to today’s fast unarmored pushes as a means of keeping up pressure - and appearances - despite growing problems.

The failure of orc armored operations is not solely a function of deeper Ukrainian artillery stocks and drones, the tools which brought Moscow’s armored force to its knees in 2024, nor are they a sign that armored vehicles are obsolete. Far from it. Poor doctrine was ineptly implemented, in a direct echo of 2022, and the Ukrainians weren’t sitting still in the meantime. It took a change of command and too much time paid for in blood, to adapt an efficient counter, and without Ukraine’s drone innovators Moscow’s evolution might have been sufficient to overwhelm Ukraine’s defenders by 2025.

But the Ukrainians counter-adapted, with the result that Putin’s forces are optimized to fight a Ukrainian military that no longer exists - for the most part. Not every brigade is equally well equipped, supported, or led. Thankfully the ongoing corps reform shows every promise of mitigating this simple reality of statistical averages. So long as even those that struggle perform to a sufficient level, they do do their job and slowly improve. The worst-performing Ukrainian brigades are still able to chew up supposedly elite ruscist opponents. Knowing that Moscow can nearly always overwhelm forward positions if sufficiently determined, it makes no sense to risk more lives than strictly necessary on the Zero Line. Especially not when Moscow has as much trouble consolidating the ground as getting there in the first place. This makes holding a given fixed line in space difficult, but the front as a whole rarely cracks.

This is where the lack of effective armored vehicle support really hurts the orcs - and Ukrainians too, though mitigation is underway. Once it has entrenched, even drones have trouble knocking out a tank or infantry fighting vehicle, so when established in a covered position an armored vehicle makes a deadly strong point. Yet more important than that capability is the number of drone hits required to immobilize one so it can’t keep moving troops and supplies. Ukrainian troops prize their NATO-donated equipment because it allows them to risk more exposure away from cover. When properly prepared, a Ukrainian assault may jump five or six kilometers and still retain the ability to do it again as opportunity allows. A BMP may be more vulnerable than an M-113, but it still beats a motorcycle on volume and survivability. Moscow may be able to slowly build up troops and supplies in an area with successive motorcycle rushes, but the pace won’t be rapid enough to achieve the desired result.

Putin’s orc generals are choosing to sacrifice their disposables for gains which never come quickly enough to prevent Ukrainian units from recovering and establishing a new line. This is exactly what happened across the Western Front during the First World War over and over again. And the Eastern, once armies were fully engaged and battle lines formed during a campaign - more space out there meant no continuous wall of trenches from Switzerland to the English Channel.

The core rationale for developing new tactics and doctrine during and after that conflict was the inability to consistently overwhelm defense-in-depth with raw numbers. Nothing has changed today, save that things that kill soldiers are more relentlessly precise than ever. Where the forward edge of the battle area, to use Cold War era NATO lingo, is a few kilometers deep, you need armored vehicles to safely move people and gear onto the other side’s turf. Drones have extended this zone to ten, soon twenty kilometers. The only way to break a properly constructed shieldwall is to maximize the capabilities of drones and their operators. Line soldiers protect them from orc rushes, and in turn their lives are a whole lot more secure.

 

[ChloeTzang]

A shieldwall is one of, if not the, oldest tactical formations known to warfare. If a group of individuals holding shields overlap their edges, the collective strength of the unit is far superior to that of a similar number of individuals not so disposed. By moving in unison, a shieldwall can transform from a defensive bulwark to an unstoppable monster. Helps to fend off stones and arrows too. And sorry, Hollywood fans, but try provoking even the boldest warhorse to charge into a thicket of spears. History is a poor guide to the future in a specific sense, but patterns and rhythms persist. Drones enable a new kind of shieldwall, one that still requires trained, effective personnel at the tip of the spear but doesn’t waste them or demand that they do more than enable drones to achieve their full potential. First individual brigades, now full corps, and soon entire fronts will be served by dedicated drone units that can make orc attempts to advance or defend futile.

If you can’t deliver water to your troops in the heat of the Ukrainian summer, you lose. And even if you can, just sustaining them in place while Ukrainian troops can freely entrench in positions a kilometer or two away does far more harm to you than the Ukrainians. Apply this principle to a depth of twenty kilometers, and the orc front as it stands will effectively dissolve. Under cover of friendly support, small groups of ground troops can move in to secure new positions and expand the killzone further into enemy territory.

I’ve read that the founder of Magyar’s Birds, one of the most effective Ukrainian drone groups, estimates that a mere 15% increase in efficiency as a result of improved training and technology will suffice to bring the orc personnel situation across occupied Ukraine to a critical point by August. Translation: if Ukraine’s leaders adopt the right strategy now, at scale, without looking back, September of 2025 could see what happened to Putin’s last army back in 2022 repeat on a much larger scale. That could easily spell the end of Putin and his asinine war.

A common mistake often made when applying ecological concepts to other fields is assuming that adaptation is always good. The same error applies to the fans of resilience who treat it as almost inherently positive. Putin’s new model army, for example, has proven highly resilient to losses, even able to make nominal gains without collapsing. It adapted doctrine and tactics to cope. But in evolution, certain pathways lock out others forever. Under the stress of mortal combat, the ruscist military machine has devolved, clinging to myths about the past instead of scientific evidence. Now, there are certainly elements of Ukraine’s military that remain equally as attached to legends about the effectiveness of Soviet practices as any orc. Yet where an orc general can keep his job so long as he reports taking some ground in his sector, on the Ukrainian side incompetence is outed eventually. Partly because of the strong incentive Ukrainians have to do whatever it takes to win this war, but certainly in no small degree because Ukraine is a much freer country where criticism of authority doesn’t lead to a jail term.

That’s one of the crucial systemic adaptive advantages of a democratic system over the long run. Information flows better, allowing entrepreneurs to take advantage. Example: would Moscow have adopted a system for allocating drone teams new kit based on their documented kill record using a point system like Ukraine did? Doubtful. Do ruscist troop leaders have anything like Ukraine’s Delta battle management system, which is kind of like a countrywide combat information center theoretically allowing line troops to get vital intel about their situation direct from an app? Nah.

Why would a low-level orc officer need to know more than their particular assignment? If a plan goes wrong, it isn’t their fault, provided they did what they were told. There’s no need to innovate a novel solution or, if you happen to, tell others about it. Even if you did, you’d be reprimanded for violating procedure. Any institutional hierarchy can all too easily turn into a cult. Assuming that Ukraine’s drone-backed shieldwall expands as extensively and rapidly as it looks set to over this summer, it will take a concerted, focused, full-spectrum assault to breach it deep enough anywhere to cause Ukrainian command a crisis on the order of anything experienced so far. Motorcycles and Ladas are highly unlikely to suffice to alter Putin’s fortunes in his war on Ukraine. As for rolling the enemy back, well, that’s its own challenge - one I’m still trying to set aside the time to lay out in full. But when it’s time for the shieldwall to push, I think it’s safe to say that the soldiers at the tip of the spear will be preceded by a lot of drones.

As for the fronts themselves, about two hundred attacks and over a thousand casualties per day continues not to yield much for Moscow. Armored vehicle losses are rising again, and Ukraine continues to prioritize aggressive dismantling of orc artillery wherever it is found. Moscow’s advances remain tactical in nature and mostly contained, though the push over the next couple months is sure to make at least some threatening gains.

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

It's amost like Trump is a Russian agent.

Almost? Almost? How much more proof do you need? Sadly, the Ukrainians knew what they were getting when Trump was elected. Too many mouth breathers in the US thought he would help Ukraine.

 

[Lazaran]

Trump is a showman, tossing out words and promises like rain with little ground beneath them. He spent most of his life as a Democrat,

That ^ is a LIE:

“Trump's political party affiliation has changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in Manhattan, New York in 1987, switched to the Reform Party in 1999, the Democratic Party in 2001, and back to the Republican Party in 2009.”

so anyone familiar with his character should harbor no illusions.

People who are ACTUALLY informed about DonOld don’t.

That’s not to say Kamala is any better. Hell no. Brainless far-leftists aligning with jihadists are a recipe for the collapse of civilization.

You mean the highly educated & accomplished Kamala who refused to even let a representative for the pro- "Palestine" crowd speak at the Democratic National Convention??? While the Arab / Muslim American community supported DonOld “The Traitorous Imbecile” Trump???

Just keep your expectations low when it comes to Trump.

Yeah, decent, intelligent individuals keep their expectation AND their opinions of DonOld “The Traitorous Imbeciles “ Trump low, while keeping their contempt and opposition high.

Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Rightguide]

The bottom line is that Ukraine should not meet with Russia until they adhere to a ceasefire.

Look at it from a neutral strategic perspective: why on earth would the Russians, who have just launched their summer offensive and are actively advancing, taking village after village along the front, agree to a ceasefire now? A pause would do nothing but hand their adversary a lifeline: time to rearm, resupply, and reposition battered forces. Zelensky is on the defensive, politically and militarily. From Moscow’s vantage point, offering him breathing room at this moment would be a self-inflicted wound, not a gesture of goodwill.

Russia has not been a sincere broker in any stage of this negotiation. Zelensky has offered up multiple concessions over multiple iterations of discussions.

Just two and a half weeks ago, Zelensky launched a barrage of 600–700 missiles and drones toward Moscow, striking multiple civilian targets with barely a murmur from Western media. But when Russia retaliates days later with an overwhelming missile and drone strike on Kyiv, suddenly the headlines scream about “Russian inhumanity,” and even Trump echoes the outrage. This double standard in reporting doesn’t just distort public perception; it blinds us to the reality unfolding before our eyes. The truth is, the outcome of this war has already been decided on the battlefield. The Russians are not just defeating Ukraine, they’ve outmaneuvered NATO and the United States. That fact will only become more undeniable with time, no matter how much narrative whitewash gets slathered over it.

 

[dmallord]

Look at it from a neutral strategic perspective: why on earth would the Russians, who have just launched their summer offensive and are actively advancing, taking village after village along the front, agree to a ceasefire now? A pause would do nothing but hand their adversary a lifeline: time to rearm, resupply, and reposition battered forces. Zelensky is on the defensive, politically and militarily. From Moscow’s vantage point, offering him breathing room at this moment would be a self-inflicted wound, not a gesture of goodwill.

Just two and a half weeks ago, Zelensky launched a barrage of 600–700 missiles and drones toward Moscow, striking multiple civilian targets with barely a murmur from Western media. But when Russia retaliates days later with an overwhelming missile and drone strike on Kyiv, suddenly the headlines scream about “Russian inhumanity,” and even Trump echoes the outrage. This double standard in reporting doesn’t just distort public perception; it blinds us to the reality unfolding before our eyes. The truth is, the outcome of this war has already been decided on the battlefield. The Russians are not just defeating Ukraine, they’ve outmaneuvered NATO and the United States. That fact will only become more undeniable with time, no matter how much narrative whitewash gets slathered over it.

Don't hold your breath. Mark this spot and let's look at it again as summer winds down.

 

[Rightguide]

Don't hold your breath. Mark this spot and let's look at it again as summer winds down.

Yes. Let's do so.

 

[Politruk]

Zelensky is on the defensive, politically and militarily.

No, not politically.

 

[Rightguide]

No, not politically.

Yes he is. He's cancelled democracy in Ukraine and refuses to hold elections. At present, there is no reliable measure of his popularity as millions have left the country, hundreds of thousands killed and wounded. Millions have been dispossessed of their homes and property. He's afraid to hold elections. There is no reliable indicator of the Ukrainian public's desire to fight this war to the end.

 

[Politruk]

Yes he is. He's cancelled democracy in Ukraine and refuses to hold elections.

The constitution does not allow elections in wartime -- and all potential challengers to Zelenskyy are much fiercer warhawks.

 

[Rightguide]

The constitution does not allow elections in wartime -- and all potential challengers to Zelenskyy are much fiercer warhawks.

BS

 

[ll74]

Look at it from a neutral strategic perspective: why on earth would the Russians, who have just launched their summer offensive and are actively advancing, taking village after village along the front, agree to a ceasefire now? A pause would do nothing but hand their adversary a lifeline: time to rearm, resupply, and reposition battered forces. Zelensky is on the defensive, politically and militarily. From Moscow’s vantage point, offering him breathing room at this moment would be a self-inflicted wound, not a gesture of goodwill.

Ukraine should not meet until a ceasefire is in place and Russia ensures they are adhering 100%.

At this point, of even eldemand they return Ukranian children who were kidnapped.

Just two and a half weeks ago, Zelensky launched a barrage of 600–700 missiles and drones toward Moscow, striking multiple civilian targets with barely a murmur from Western media. But when Russia retaliates days later with an overwhelming missile and drone strike on Kyiv, suddenly the headlines scream about “Russian inhumanity,” and even Trump echoes the outrage. This double standard in reporting doesn’t just distort public perception; it blinds us to the reality unfolding before our eyes. The truth is, the outcome of this war has already been decided on the battlefield. The Russians are not just defeating Ukraine, they’ve outmaneuvered NATO and the United States. That fact will only become more undeniable with time, no matter how much narrative whitewash gets slathered over it.

This is not a reality in any sense of the word. Russia has driven multiple countries into NATO membership and alienated itself from the majority of the world.

 

[Politruk]

BS

It's all true. And it's all been covered here before.

 

[dmallord]

Yes he is. He's cancelled democracy in Ukraine and refuses to hold elections. At present, there is no reliable measure of his popularity as millions have left the country, hundreds of thousands killed and wounded. Millions have been dispossessed of their homes and property. He's afraid to hold elections. There is no reliable indicator of the Ukrainian public's desire to fight this war to the end.

This tale is like an old dog that won't hunt, Bubba.

You’ve got your drawers on backwards this morning. Russia has stated its intention to eradicate Ukrainians. Now, I don't know how dumb you are, but I seriously doubt people under threat of eradication wouldn’t support a man who is fighting to save his country from death.

Zelenskyy is abiding by the Ukrainian constitution, which states that elections shall be suspended in the event of wartime. He isn't refusing or canceling democracy but obeying that constitutional provision. You expect him to violate his constitution because you think everyone should halt things for a vote backing him, and then you would be satisfied?

By the way, this news about the reason there have been no elections has been widely published. I'm surprised a person of your vast knowledge doesn't know that.

Yep, lots of people left, lots of 'em are dead. Lots of 'em are dispossessed because the Russians bombed, droned, or sent missiles into those homes, apartments, and schools as well as clearly marked medical buildings. That doesn't have anything to do with elections, but it does show how the Russians care little for humanity or civilians during wartime. [How would you get those votes together? Mail-in ballots, LOL]

Care to source your statements with support that he is afraid to hold elections? Or is that opinion mutterings as it seems to be?

You said there’s no reliable indicator that the public is for the war. Conversely, the opposite must be equally true following logic. Then, how can you confidently claim that his popularity is faltering or so low that he is afraid to hold an election, if you have nothing reliable to back that up with?

Circular crap that no old dog would bother even to get up an hunt for. Damn dumb stuff you're spewing, Bubba.