For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ll74]

If you're listening to the legacy media, you're listening to propaganda.

I remember when you used to call it the main stream media...... I wonder why you changed that. Oh right...... The media changed it... Lol

I don't listen to propaganda.... Sorry bubb. I read news all over the board and corroborate my information. What I don't do is read "independent journalist" that copy paste all their shit from other sites to drive up their clicks.

 

[Rightguide]

I remember when you used to call it the main stream media...... I wonder why you changed that. Oh right...... The media changed it... Lol

I don't listen to propaganda.... Sorry bubb. I read news all over the board and corroborate my information. What I don't do is read "independent journalist" that copy paste all their shit from other sites to drive up their clicks.

We know your favorite sources are CNN, MSNBC, NYTs, and WaPo. All left-wing, anti-Trump, anti-American, propaganda outlets.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia’s artillery—once the backbone of its invasion strategy—is being dismantled piece by piece. Ukraine’s use of drones, advanced targeting systems, and real-time reconnaissance has flipped the battlefield. Nearly 30,000 artillery systems have been destroyed, forcing Russia to rethink its tactics.

 

[ll74]

We know your favorite sources are CNN, MSNBC, NYTs, and WaPo. All left-wing, anti-Trump, anti-American, propaganda outlets.

AAh, fun. So tell me - how often do I use those sources? For example - how many times have I looked at any one of those today?

Better yet, how often have I posted sources from the above this week?

I'll wait.

 

[ChloeTzang]

A key fuel hub in Rostov has been taken out. This key facility stored fuel for Russian forces operating in the Donbas, and its destruction could severely limit Russia’s offensive capabilities. NASA satellite data confirmed the site was ablaze by 6:41 am Kyiv time, with local sources reporting powerful explosions hours earlier.

 

[Rightguide]

AAh, fun. So tell me - how often do I use those sources? For example - how many times have I looked at any one of those today?

Better yet, how often have I posted sources from the above this week?

I'll wait.

Not very often, but then again, you rarely post more than a derogatory sentence.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The Russian economy is beginning to implode.....

 

[Lazaran]

The unfortunate part in this is that you don't understand war at all. As Russia depletes its internal resources, it will seek to supplement them from outside Russia. They will turn to China and North Korea and form a war alliance in which both of those countries will send massive amounts of equipment and personnel into Russia and then onto Ukraine. Not the dribble NK has invested as a test, but two entire armies fully invested in "the cause."

This will resupply Russia with fresh troops and equipment, as well as continue to further pound Ukraine into submission as these soldiers gain battle experience and their tofu based equipment improves to combat quality instead of only showmanship.

Ukraine hasn't seen nothing yet. And, unless NATO gets boots on the ground, Ukraine is toast.

Derpy derped…again.



Derpy "thinks" North Korea & China are just going to donate all their equipment / materials and personnel if the Russian economy totally implodes and the war becomes more costly for Russia in terms of lives and infrastructure (especially Russian oil infrastructure) as Ukraine continues to improve on their long range drone attack capabilities and their precision bombing capabilities from their ever improving Air Force???





Derpy

 

[ll74]

Not very often, but then again, you rarely post more than a derogatory sentence.

Lol..of course.

Just an fyi - I post more Fox News pieces here than any other source. And I tend to also post a lot from Twitter.

Every once in a while I'll find something from CNN or one of the other sources you mention....but usually I'll still post fox once corroborated. It has nothing to do with their reliability.

But as you consistently tell us all, nobody watches those other networks.

 

[ChloeTzang]

France Is Giving More Mirage Fighter Jets to Ukraine​

France is boosting Ukraine’s air power with more Mirage 2000 jets, upgraded for both air defense and ground strikes, while co-production of drones and tighter NATO coordination are also underway. In February, Ukraine received its first Mirage 2000 fighters from France, part of an undisclosed number of the multi-role aircraft that had been pledged the previous year. Before the recent NATO summit in The Hague, French President Emmanuel Macron met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to discuss the transfer of additional Mirage 2000-5F jets, as well as the co-production of interceptor drones and enhanced diplomatic coordination.

Since arriving in Ukraine, the Mirage 2000 fighters have been employed to intercept Russian cruise missiles and drones. It was reported in March that one of the French-made aircraft successfully downed a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile. Although the exact number of Mirage 2000-5Fs was not disclosed, it is believed that Paris has provided Kyiv with between 12 and 20, and following the recent discussions between Macron and Zelensky, that number could be further increased. Additional aircraft could be transferred from the French Air and Space Force, while NATO member Greece has indicated it could supply Ukraine with its Mirage fighter as it seeks to receive newer Dassault Rafales. Athens had previously sought to sell its French-made aircraft to India, but a deal failed to materialize.

Ukraine’s fleet of Mirage 2000s was also upgraded with an “RDY radar with pulse-Dopper mechanical scanning,” according to Zona-militar.com, and further equipped to carry the Anglo-French SCALP EG/Storm Shadow cruise missiles, as well as the French-made AASM guided bombs, which would allow the fighters to carry out ground attack missions.

The French-based Dassault produced a total of 601 Mirage 2000s in all configurations between 1978 and 2007. During that timeframe, the aircraft served as the backbone of the French Air and Space Force, while also scoring success in the export market. The Mirage is noted for bearing a superficial resemblance to the dynasty of Dassault’s “delta-winged” fighters that preceded it during the Cold War; yet, the aircraft featured significant advances over the earlier Mirages in terms of structure, aerodynamics, propulsion, and systems. The Mirage 2000 is equipped with CCV (Controlled Configured Vehicle) technology, which includes fly-by-wire (FBW) controls that offer instantaneous response to pilot input. The aircraft has been steadily updated, and the first “second generation” Mirage 2000 was introduced in 1990 as the Mirage 2000-5, an export-optimized multirole combat aircraft. Initially tested as a two-seater, a single-seat model was subsequently introduced.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/france-is-giving-more-mirage-fighter-jets-to-ukraine

 

[dmallord]

The unfortunate part in this is that you don't understand war at all. As Russia depletes its internal resources, it will seek to supplement them from outside Russia. They will turn to China and North Korea and form a war alliance in which both of those countries will send massive amounts of equipment and personnel into Russia and then onto Ukraine. Not the dribble NK has invested as a test, but two entire armies fully invested in "the cause."

This will resupply Russia with fresh troops and equipment, as well as continue to further pound Ukraine into submission as these soldiers gain battle experience and their tofu based equipment improves to combat quality instead of only showmanship.

Ukraine hasn't seen nothing yet. And, unless NATO gets boots on the ground, Ukraine is toast.

Ah, the five-star general returns—strategic insight and all. You don't seem perturbed that Russia is getting slaughtered. And see if they have a way out by partnering with others? Who gets what out of those deals?

So now we’re to expect China and North Korea to send not just supplies, but full armies through Russia into Ukraine? That’s a bold scenario. China’s spent years avoiding that kind of entanglement, and North Korea—well, if their gear holds up better than their electrical grid, we’ll all be surprised.

Meanwhile, Russia continues to lose men and machines at unsustainable rates, and Ukraine holds the line. But sure—reinforcements are coming any day now, tofu-based and all.

I admire the confidence. Pete should have you in his Signal Chat group and probably take your advice on how to help the Russians out.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Bank of Russia has okayed Russian banks limiting cash withdrawals from 1 Sept to max of around $550 day to stave off collapse of the banking system. Russians are now talking about the Russian economy being on the brink of a recession or a collapse.

Putin has been using bank money to fuel the war. A lot of Russians have stopped paying off debts to banks as well as not paying bills. Russian economic production has been dropping precipitously. New house construction has dropped between -30 and -50%, just as an example, and with oil prices are dropping, Russia has no chance of recovering its finances.

Russian banks are collapsng fast and the Russian economy is imploding......credit card delinquencies have skyrocked - over 11% of all Russian cards are over 90 days delinquent. Russians are drowning in debt. Credit card interest rates are over 30%. Russian banks lack liquidity and are struggimg to stay afloat. Food inflation has hit 92% (potatoes), 48% (onions), 36% (butter). This is no longer just an economic downturn. This is the implosion of Putin’s war economy from within.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Everything has become a target for Ukraine, crippling the Russian economy. Between January and May 2025, Ukrainian drone strikes inflicted over $10 billion in damage on Russian targets. Russia must spend far more than that to rebuild or replace the assets lost. For example, when Russian refineries are destroyed, the Russians not only lose the asset, but they also must spend to remove the vast amount of debris before they can even start rebuilding.

The Ukrainians are acutely aware that they likely will never be able to beat Russia in terms of military manpower. So instead, Ukrainians are fighting an econimic war. They know that they don’t stand a chance in head on attacks. They have to be much more judicious with their forces. This is mainly why the majority of their soldiers and stuff are mostly just making sure that the Russians aren’t gaining any new ground. While at the same time attempting to liberate the areas that have been under Russian occupation for several years now. This is why the Ukrainians have focus on targets causing maximum econimic damage - with financial backing from the EU Ukraine can afford to do this.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The Hidden Crisis Destroying Russia’s Army - Incompetence and lack of professionalism​

This is some really insightful analysis

 

[ChloeTzang]

Imagine a weapons program that is designed to win battles, rather than to enrich giant corporations? - Ukraine's WEEKEND ENGINEERS

A small group of volunteer engineers is reshaping modern warfare from garages and basements. While traditional military giants move slowly, these innovators are moving fast—building battlefield-ready tools in weeks, not years. From drone tech to cutting-edge countermeasures, they’re changing how wars are fought. This is the story of a decentralized revolution in defense, and how it's challenging some of the world’s most expensive military systems.

Volunteer Engineers are working directly with soldiers on the frontlines....3 months from concept to front line use for fiber-optic drones for example

 

[ChloeTzang]

Big grass fires in Crimea

Ukrainian drones attacked a military airfield in Crimea overnight. The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), said it had struck the Kirovske military airfield and destroyed three helicopters. The drone attack destroyed Mi-8, Mi-26 and Mi-28 attack helicopters, plus a Pantsir-S1 self-propelled anti-aircraft missile and gun system, the SBU claimed. It said it also targeted Russian aviation, air defense systems, plus ammunition, reconnaissance and attack drones storage facilities. Unverified footage appearing to show the attack has been shared on X. According to reports, secondary explosions were heard during the night. at the airfield, which is located near the town of Kirovske on the east of the peninsula. An Ukrainian military official said: “Available data indicate the destruction of multi-purpose and attack helicopters Mi-8, Mi-26 and Mi-28, as well as the self-propelled anti-aircraft missile and gun complex Pantsir-S1.”

Russia is claiming there were large grass fires in the area....

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia confirms Su-34 losses in drone strike

Ukrainian Special Operations Forces and the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), in coordination with other branches of the Defense Forces, struck the Marinovka airbase in Russia’s Volgograd region overnight on June 27, reportedly destroying four Su-34 Fullback fighter-bombers, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The strike targeted both combat aircraft and a technical operations zone used for servicing and repairing Russian warplanes. “According to preliminary information, four enemy aircraft — specifically Su-34s — and the technical-operational section of the airfield were hit,” the General Staff said in an official statement.

The operation, part of Ukraine’s effort to degrade Russia’s airstrike capabilities, was described as a coordinated mission intended to reduce the aggressor’s ability to launch guided bomb and missile attacks on Ukrainian territory. The Su-34, operated by Russia’s Aerospace Forces, is a twin-engine, supersonic strike aircraft frequently deployed in Russia’s bombing campaign against Ukrainian military positions and civilian infrastructure. The aircraft is capable of launching guided glide bombs equipped with correction modules, allowing it to strike from long distances without entering Ukrainian air defenses.

Russian pro-government military channels appeared to confirm the strike. A post on the Fighterbomber Telegram channel, which is closely aligned with the Russian Aerospace Forces, stated, “There’s no point in commenting on Marinovka. More multi-billion-ruble losses that could and should have been prevented.” The unusually frank statement sparked backlash among Russian military commentators, some of whom accused Fighterbomber’s author, Ilya Tumanov, of aiding Ukrainian efforts by serving as a source of “objective loss verification.”

Marinovka, located deep inside Russian territory, has been one of several key staging areas used by Russian tactical aviation.

The attack also demonstrates the reach and coordination of Ukrainian special operations teams, who have increasingly used asymmetric tactics to disrupt critical Russian military infrastructure far from the front lines.

https://defence-blog.com/russia-confirms-su-34-losses-in-drone-strike/

 

[ChloeTzang]

The disintegration of Russia could lead to a large-scale civil war, similar to the Yugoslavia case, but 10 times more dangerous due to Russia’s nuclear arsenal. At the same time, the Putin regime is confidently moving toward economic stagnation and political collapse. The opinion was shared by French General (retired) Michel Yakovleff, who spoke in an interview with Ukrinform.

“If that happened, we would have Yugoslavia, but 10 times more powerful, with thousands of nuclear warheads. And this is what Europe is very afraid of. The problem they see is a civil war, which, in my opinion, is a very plausible hypothesis. Today, Russia has 17 armies. The situation is similar to Lebanon in 1973. There are many people who have objective reasons to grab each other by the throat. For example, the subjects of the federation that declare independence because it’s their minerals that are exported while all money goes to Moscow. When the Russians start doing this, we know that they will do it ‘for real’, these are not French jokes, and not at all our vision of peace in Europe. This reminds me of a joke from the times of the war in Yugoslavia. You know, as they said then, what do Serbia and a Nokia phone have in common? Every year a new model is smaller than last year's," Yakovleff said.

At the same time, in his opinion, the question of the collapse of the Putin regime is a matter of time, and economic problems are already significant.

"The Russians already have problems with oil exports, and their hydrocarbon profits clearly fail to meet their expectations. So, Putin has eaten up most of his reserves. Russia's economic standstill in 2025 is not ruled out, and there are factors to this end. This is not inflation, because such a regime can survive hyperinflation. But the regime does have problems with survival when their payment chain is blocked. And at the moment, many Russian companies have not enough money to pay, so they offer so-called financial obligations,” he explained.

Read also: NATO standard today inferior to Ukraine’s – French general
Among the factors leading to the “implosion” in Russia, the general named the flow of resources from the center to the periphery thanks to the blood money that other regions “earn” from the war in Ukraine, as well as the political confrontation between the periphery and center.

“The confrontation with the center is intensifying. All these republics, parts of the federation, as the Russians say, whose minerals are exploited exclusively in the interests of St. Petersburg and Moscow, while the center sends 50 times fewer soldiers to the front. The logic of things even before the war foresaw the collapse of the Putin regime for reasons of demographics, economic structure, and management. Even before February 2022, Putin's Russia was not a regime that could exist forever. It is heading straight toward the wall for the same reason that the Soviet Union once did. In February 2022, it only accelerated. At some point, it will collapse, this is a natural evolution. However, Ukraine must survive until that happens,” the expert explained.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-po...europe-doesnt-want-russia-to-break-apart.html

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine’s air war may change dramatically by late 2025.

L3Harris began testing the AN/ALQ-254(V)1 Viper Shield system in January 2025, with initial deliveries expected by year-end and full production in 2026. So far, six countries have ordered 168 units. Ukraine, which received its first F-16s in August 2024, is positioned to benefit if Viper Shields are shared.The Viper Shield promises next-gen protection against Russian electronic warfare, jamming, and radar systems. Compatible with Ukraine’s F-16 Block 70s and adaptable for older jets, it boosts survivability without requiring major modifications. The system’s success could reshape air dominance in the region—if Ukraine gains access.

Add in to this that Russia’s air force is in free fall. Once seen as a dominant force, it’s now facing crippling losses, aging aircraft, and a growing maintenance crisis. Years of corruption, overuse, and sanctions have pushed it to the edge. With jets pulled from museums and pilots rushed through training, Russia’s aerial advantage has all but vanished. The entire system has broken under the weight of the war with Ukraine.

 

[ChloeTzang]

‘Trump is in bed with Russia’: Why the US will not protect Article 5 | General Sir Richard Shireff​

Sir Richard Shireff understands exactly what is happening. There are many analysts on Times Radio who do not understand the seriousness of the situation we are in row. The crux of the matter is, if Russia attacks Europe, Trump will NOT come to NATO's aid - and the European leadership is terrified that Trump WILL walk away. Trump is not in any way committed to NATO and would walk away from NATO at a moment's notice and he's already demonstrated that he's in bed with Russia, that he is a pro-Putin sympathizer, he doesn't give a damn for Ukraine and he's focused on his own interested. It's a pretty scathing assessment.

Sir Richard Shireff was Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe for 4 years. In 2016, Shirreff published a book entitled 2017: War with Russia: An Urgent Warning from Senior Military Command. The part-fictional book suggests that Russia could easily invade the Baltic States, that war between Russia and NATO would be possible, and implies strongly that Shirreff finds military high command and government incapable of creating a suitable response.

European Leaders need to stop 'sucking up' to Trump and start working on a NATO defence and rearmament plan without the US and it needs to do so immediately. The EU need to put their economies on a war footing now and stop their political leaders ridiculous posturing over meeting the 5% defence spending target by 2035. This is 1939 all over again and the only thing standing between Europe and Armageddon is Ukraine

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Buying U.S. Arms Will Help Europe Unlock Trade Deal With Trump, EU Leader Says
António Costa, one of the bloc’s top officials, says pledge to spend more on defense will cut U.S. trade deficit
BRUSSELS—Europe’s deal with President Trump to boost its military spending will help defuse a trans-Atlantic trade war, because much of the new money will go toward U.S. arms, one of the European Union’s top two officials said.
“Of course, a large part of this 5% will be spent for sure buying American, and it helps to rebalance the trade relations,” said António Costa, who heads the European Council, in an interview referring to the new target.
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/bu...29238?st=R3CB7Z&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[HisArpy]

Buying U.S. Arms Will Help Europe Unlock Trade Deal With Trump, EU Leader Says
António Costa, one of the bloc’s top officials, says pledge to spend more on defense will cut U.S. trade deficit
BRUSSELS—Europe’s deal with President Trump to boost its military spending will help defuse a trans-Atlantic trade war, because much of the new money will go toward U.S. arms, one of the European Union’s top two officials said.
“Of course, a large part of this 5% will be spent for sure buying American, and it helps to rebalance the trade relations,” said António Costa, who heads the European Council, in an interview referring to the new target.
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/bu...29238?st=R3CB7Z&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Wasn't someone recently saying that Europe wasn't going to be buying US arms because of Trump's tariffs? Something about contracts going to (Dassault) Rafale?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Wasn't someone recently saying that Europe wasn't going to be buying US arms because of Trump's tariffs? Something about contracts going to (Dassault) Rafale?

lol. Another doomsday scenario bites the dust.