For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine destroys Russian drone factory

Ukraine has just carried out one of the deepest, most devastating strikes of the war - Destroying a key Russian drone production facility over 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) inside Russian territory. This plant produced the Geran-2 drones, Russia’s copy of Iran’s Shahed-136, the same loitering munitions used to attack Odesa, Kharkiv, Dnipro, Kherson, and Kyiv. By wiping out this plant, Ukraine has crippled the Kremlin’s ability to replace these drones quickly – cutting Russia’s capacity for long-range strikes on Ukrainian cities. The hit came after Ukrainian forces destroyed the 90th Air Defense Brigade in Krasnodar Krai, clearing a corridor through southern Russia’s air defenses.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Moscow Coup Chatter EXPLODES:​

Chatter indicates that Moscow’s generals are gathering in fear of their own shadows. A simmering military coup inside Russia’s General Staff is not ideological theatrics - it is a desperate, preemptive fight for survival. As battlefield failures mount, whispers trace back to Prigozhin’s ghost: mid-level officers plotting a swift seizure of power to stave off a regime purge. Ukrainian OSINT confirms gains of only 0.094% of Ukrainian land in July - the Kremlin trades a generation of Russians for a few muddy fields and some ruins. Drone interceptions, motorcycle micro-assaults, deep strikes on Saratov, and rapid leadership churn expose an unstable command structure.

Whether genuine or manufactured by the FSB, the coup narrative reveals an unraveling elite consensus surrounding Vladimir Putin. The implications are seismic: nuclear command credibility, NATO’s posture, and the upcoming US Trump meeting in Alaska. Every Russian refinery ablaze, every drone shot down, every officer sidelined deepens fissures in Kremlin cohesion for the Putin regime.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Zelensky Rejected Trump’s Deal | Putin Humiliates Trump​

Trump's call for swapping of territories is based on Witkoff's misunderstanding of the translation.
Russia wants Ukraine to leave it's fortifications in Donbas - no swap - just capitulation - and nothing in return but agreeing to start negotiations with Trump. Basically he always wants Ukraine to the Dnipro demilitarized and the negotiations may take years.
In other words, complete bullshit and we should expect nothing positive from Trump and Putin meeting. Putin is aming to cancel US military support for Ukraine and he's playing Trump to this end.

Meanwhile JD Wormtongue says the US is done with funding Ukraine war and supplying military packages, block existing packages, and it's up to Europe. But they will sell to Europe.
Ukraine army personnel who have gone to NATO countries for training are saying NATO armies should rather come to Ukraine for training.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia’s War Machine Is DRYING UP – The Numbers Are BRUTAL​

Russia’s war machine is unraveling. From drones to missiles, explosives to basic vehicle parts, critical shortages are crippling its ability to fight.

Years of overconfidence, sanctions, and outdated military doctrine have left the Kremlin’s forces burning through dwindling stockpiles and dragging relics out of storage. What was once sold as unstoppable power is now struggling to keep moving—literally—as the cracks in Russia’s military-industrial complex turn into a full-scale collapse.

 

[dmallord]

1.25 million by the end of the year.

Notice also how the tank and IFV losses have dropped to almost nothing. Russia just does not have any significant numbers left. They are now an infantry army, incapable of any rapid exploitation of breakthroughs and unable to react quickly.

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I saw those numbers drop. I leaned to toward the idea it was a Russian holiday and troops went home to celebrate. They need to add a space for oil refineries on that chart!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Lukoil Oil Refinery in Komi Republic hit....2000 kms inside Russia

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine SHUTTING DOWN Russia's Oil Industry​

14% of Russia's oil production taken out in 8 days
Saratov Oil Refinery now ablaze - one of Russia's major refineries - 75% of the refinery is engulfed in flames, meaning it's probably irrepairable
Another drone strike on am pil refinery in the Komir Republic - loud explosions
These strikes are having a real impact on the Russian economy and the Russian financial budgets
Russian budget was built on $70 a barrel. It's well below that, denting the Russian budget. Refinery hits are cutting into exports.
Also targeting factories, storage depots and other industrial facilities
Liberating regions in Sumy from Russian invaders - Ukrainian forces are moving forward, driving the Russians back. General Lapin, who was in charge of the Russian invasion forces, has just been fired
Interesting take on Witkoff....

 

[ChloeTzang]

Prof.Michael Clarke and Ukraine - President TACO won't do sanctions......

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[HisArpy]

Lukoil Oil Refinery in Komi Republic hit....2000 kms inside Russia

I remind Chloe that Hitler had conquered and looted nearly all of Europe at one time and yet he still lost in the end.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I remind Chloe that Hitler had conquered and looted nearly all of Europe at one time and yet he still lost in the end.

He did, but on the other hand, Hitler didn't have the rest of Europe behind him, and the best of the Red Army were the Ukrainian Divisions......and a lot of the USSR's logistics weapons and ammo came from the USA

What we're seeing now is Ukraine eroding Russian infrastructure, taking out their logistics, decimating their manpower - Russian-Ukraine losses in the ***** sector have been at 66-1 for a while, and elsewhere it's now above 10 for 1. Also eliminating their artillery to the point that Ukraine has artillery superiority and NOT making the mistakes Hitler made.

They've taken out 14% of Russian oil refining capacity in the last couple of weeks. Not to mention Russian command posts - those are the experienced officers been whittled away. The armor and the IFV's are gone. Theor air force is wearing down and so is their ability to keep those aircraft in the air. And terror bombing of civilians never won a war by itself. Their economy is heading for the ropes. The Ukrainian Army is getting better. The Russians are getting worse.

Putin is throwing bodies at the Ukrainians and spouting talking points and propaganda in an attempt to create the picture that Russia is winning. Trump is sobbing about so many dead. but really, who cares if Russians die? That's on them and on Putin and guess who started this war. So that's tough shit. The more dead Russians the better. They need to be killed until the Russian Army collapses and withdraws from ALL of Ukraine. And as Russia collapses, it may be time to look at Greater Ukraine, and consider which Oblasts are really Ukrainian and NOT Russian at all. The Kuban to start with.... Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod for sure.

Russia needs to decolonize, and Muscovy will be a lot smaller without the colonies it's occupied for far to long.

My big fear here is that Trump is busy making the USA an irrelevance whon nobody will take much notice of in a few years time - and China will emerge as the replacement superpower.

Traditionally, when superpower leadership has changed over, we have had world wars - going back to How and Straus and their generational model here. It's all falling into place.




Great Powet Dominance moves from France to Britain



Great Power Dominance moves from Britain to the USA


Great Power Dominance moves from the USA to China???????

 

[ChloeTzang]

Now we know where North Korea got their ship building skills from

Putin embarrassed as new Russian navy ship sinks​

One of Russia’s new naval ships has met an early demise after capsizing and sinking in a Baltic shipyard. The new tugboat, Kapitan Ushakov, was undergoing final outfitting in St Petersburg when it began tilting sharply, prompting a frenzied response from shipyard teams to save the vessel. The new outfitting was too much for the boat to handle, and it was lying on its side just a few hours after it began tipping on August 8. The 70-metre boat was first launched in June 2022 and was intended to tow larger vessels, fight fires and help with search and rescue missions. Initial reports found that a flood began in the machinery compartment of the ship.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...S&cvid=689a1ad28c814c9e85b7e1062423a3bb&ei=13

 

[ChloeTzang]

Karma comes to Russia......

And Russian Oil Refinery Bingo. Have your card ready....

 

[Baztrachian]

Initial reports found that a flood began in the machinery compartment of the ship.

Sounds like someone opened a seacock or a Kingston valve. I know I slam on the Russians but I can't imagine a new ship sinking on its own. Somebody had to have done something stupid here.

Or maybe it was deliberate.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Sounds like someone opened a seacock or a Kingston valve. I know I slam on the Russians but I can't imagine a new ship sinking on its own. Somebody had to have done something stupid here.

Or maybe it was deliberate.

Personally that's what I think too. Somebody who knew what they were doing opened her up and down she went. And with that machinery comartment flooded, I imagine that's all the engines and electrics gone. Once those are immersed in salt water, as it would seem they are, well, that's a rebuild I guess. That ship ain't going anywhere for a few more years. Nice.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Another update from Denys.....

 

[HisArpy]

He did, but on the other hand, Hitler didn't have the rest of Europe behind him,

Hitler owned Europe and had all of its resources available to use. For all his cruelty, what he didn't count on was the ability of the people to resist and fight back no matter what.

Ukraine is in the same situation (as is Russia) but Russia is in a position where it still has resources it can tap. Ukraine doesn't have that except for NATO and the US and we're all running out of supplies/weapons/materials we can send without risking our own national security. Eventually the pipeline will dry up.

 

[dmallord]

I remind Chloe that Hitler had conquered and looted nearly all of Europe at one time and yet he still lost in the end.

Hitler thrived while the world sat still—he lost only when the U.S. finally woke up. Now a draft-dodger thinks peace means gifting Putin the land he stole, handing him bragging rights while the ICC has a warrant out for his arrest.

Zelenskyy can attend the Alaska meeting, but only from the cheap seats, while the invader and the felon play Nobel Prize theater. That’s not diplomacy—it’s appeasement with catering.

And the irony? Putin’s flying to Alaska—a land Russia sold in desperation after the Crimean War under Tsar Alexander II. Sold for pennies to keep it from Britain. Now the modern czar shows up, not to reclaim lost soil, but to carve up someone else’s. History keeps its receipts. It's too bad the felon doesn't read about history, or even the audio versions. He's blinded by the Nobel Peace Prize light shining into his eyes.

Arphy, your insight into Ukraine's plight is as dim as Trump's.

 

[HisArpy]

Hitler thrived while the world sat still—he lost only when the U.S. finally woke up. Now a draft-dodger thinks peace means gifting Putin the land he stole, handing him bragging rights while the ICC has a warrant out for his arrest.

Zelenskyy can attend the Alaska meeting, but only from the cheap seats, while the invader and the felon play Nobel Prize theater. That’s not diplomacy—it’s appeasement with catering.

And the irony? Putin’s flying to Alaska—a land Russia sold in desperation after the Crimean War under Tsar Alexander II. Sold for pennies to keep it from Britain. Now the modern czar shows up, not to reclaim lost soil, but to carve up someone else’s. History keeps its receipts. It's too bad the felon doesn't read about history, or even the audio versions. He's blinded by the Nobel Peace Prize light shining into his eyes.

Arphy, your insight into Ukraine's plight is as dim as Trump's.

My eyes aren't clouded by TDS like yours are.

Like Trump I'd like to see an end to the killing. What you'd like to see happen is Trump failing and ignore the killing. Something which points out the flaw in your mental reasoning.

For those who don't actually understand what's going on, Trump is trying to mediate the conflict. Despite Putin's refusals and bad faith, Trump has gotten Putin to the bargaining table. That itself is a sign of hope.

Another thing about mediating disputes that you TDS riddled dipshits refuse to acknowledge; if the parties don't want to do anything except fight, it's not the mediator's fault. In this we can blame both Zelensky and Putin but Trump isn't part of that.

 

[ll74]

My eyes aren't clouded by TDS like yours are.

Like Trump I'd like to see an end to the killing. What you'd like to see happen is Trump failing and ignore the killing. Something which points out the flaw in your mental reasoning.

For those who don't actually understand what's going on, Trump is trying to mediate the conflict. Despite Putin's refusals and bad faith, Trump has gotten Putin to the bargaining table. That itself is a sign of hope.

Another thing about mediating disputes that you TDS riddled dipshits refuse to acknowledge; if the parties don't want to do anything except fight, it's not the mediator's fault. In this we can blame both Zelensky and Putin but Trump isn't part of that.

"In one day..."

47 capitulates to Putin.

 

[Rightguide]

Hitler owned Europe and had all of its resources available to use. For all his cruelty, what he didn't count on was the ability of the people to resist and fight back no matter what.

Ukraine is in the same situation (as is Russia) but Russia is in a position where it still has resources it can tap. Ukraine doesn't have that except for NATO and the US and we're all running out of supplies/weapons/materials we can send without risking our own national security. Eventually the pipeline will dry up.

And most of Ukraine's natural resources are at present held or threatened by the Russians in the east.

 

[ll74]

Cesession of land by Ukraine requires a vote of Parliament. Already not happening.

 

[dmallord]

My eyes aren't clouded by TDS like yours are.

Like Trump I'd like to see an end to the killing. What you'd like to see happen is Trump failing and ignore the killing. Something which points out the flaw in your mental reasoning.

For those who don't actually understand what's going on, Trump is trying to mediate the conflict. Despite Putin's refusals and bad faith, Trump has gotten Putin to the bargaining table. That itself is a sign of hope.

Another thing about mediating disputes that you TDS riddled dipshits refuse to acknowledge; if the parties don't want to do anything except fight, it's not the mediator's fault. In this we can blame both Zelensky and Putin but Trump isn't part of that.

Arphy, I want to see an end to the killing, too—especially the innocent civilians targeted daily by Russia’s missiles and bombs. But unlike you, I don’t think peace comes from backing a draft-dodger who ignores those killings while chasing photo ops with a murderous dictator.

You say my reasoning is “mentally flawed,” yet your take demands we celebrate failure over a doomed mission impossible scenario and dismiss the real victims. You fly straight to TDS at every turn when I speak, just like a KGB operative's obfuscation. Insults are rather stupid in the face of this Don Quixotesque journey to Аляска (Alyaska).

Putin “coming to the table” is classic maskirovka — a KGB tactic of deception, disinformation, and distraction designed to confuse and lull opponents into complacency. It’s a well-rehearsed act stretching back years, staged to create photo ops, buy time, and let Putin consolidate gains while the naive celebrate premature victories.

Trump falling for this charade again fits the pattern: the deal-maker dazzled by the illusion of progress, ignoring that the “table” Putin sits at is rigged from the start. Putin didn’t come out of genuine peace interest — he came for free PR, to legitimize his aggression, and to divide his opponents.

Zelenskyy has been clear: land swaps are a non-starter for peace. Yet Trump presses ahead with a meeting that ignores this red line. Today, in a baffling slip, he twice said he was flying to Russia to negotiate—drawing quiet smiles from his own staff—when in fact the meeting is in Alaska.

If this meeting is truly about negotiating land swaps, then why isn’t Ukraine’s president at the table?

How can a country be expected to bargain over its own territory—its sovereignty and future—when it’s excluded from the conversation?

The idea that a mediator isn’t at fault if the parties refuse to agree is a dodge. A mediator’s core job is to bring all genuine parties to the table and ensure fair negotiation.

When the mediator excludes the victim—the country under attack—and instead hosts talks between the aggressor and himself, the failure lies squarely with the mediator. This isn’t neutral ground; it’s a staged event where the aggressor sets the agenda, and the mediator enables it by sidelining the rightful party. That’s not impartial mediation; it’s complicity in injustice.

If you honestly believe Ukraine should “compromise” by handing over land it bled to defend, you’re already siding with Russia — just without admitting it.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Like Trump I'd like to see an end to the killing.

Let's correct that misconception right from the start. Trump does not want to see an end to the killing. He wants to see the open battle postponed until after his Presidential term is over.

Should there be a ceasefire or some sort of imposed agreement, Russia will simply continue the killing inside the occupied territories until there are no Ukrainians left. Bucha and Kherson are evidence enough of that. What Trump would rather do is IGNORE the killings that he doesn't want to know about.

All the evidence points to Putin simplt using any ceasefire to rebuild the Russian Army and attack again, as he did in Chechyna. He has broken every agreement he has ever signed. Is Trump prepared to put the US Army on the ground, between Russia and Ukraine, with a committment to fight the Russians if they break any ceasefire or treaty? THAT is the only guarantee that would work. If Trump is not prepared to do that, he is simply guaranteeing that Russia will attack again from a stronger position in the near future, and the killing will resume with Ukraine at a greater disadvantage.

Again, there is NO WAY Trump can guarantee a ceasefire or a peace agreement that will last. None at all. He might want the killing to stop, but the only way it will stop is
(a) if Russia is defeated (killing will stop)
(b) if Russian wins (my bad. Killing will not stop. It will continue until the Ukrainian genocide is complete)

Yes, you would like to see an end to the killing of Ukrainians (I really don't care about Russians). We all would. That will only happen when Russia is defeated.

What you'd like to see happen is Trump failing and ignore the killing. Something which points out the flaw in your mental reasoning.

Nope. Trump and you are both ignoring the fact that the killing will continue. Only, it will be behind Russian lines, and then when Russia attacks again. It's honestly better that Trump fail now, STFU, and just sell weapons to Ukraine. He's not going to achieve anything except make himself look like a fool. Which he is already doing to the rest of the world. Particulary those who understand Russia.

This IS WW3, and Trump is already losing it.

For those who don't actually understand what's going on, Trump is trying to mediate the conflict. Despite Putin's refusals and bad faith, Trump has gotten Putin to the bargaining table. That itself is a sign of hope.

No, he's not. He's made concessions on behalf of Ukraine he is not entitled to make. He's sided with Putin and attacked Ukraine again and again.

He is in no way a mediator.

Another thing about mediating disputes that you TDS riddled dipshits refuse to acknowledge; if the parties don't want to do anything except fight, it's not the mediator's fault. In this we can blame both Zelensky and Putin but Trump isn't part of that.

And Trump should just stay out of it. There is no need for mediation. All Trump needs to do is step back, impose sanctions on Russia as the aggressor, and sell weapons and ammo to Ukraine and let them do the job.

Trump has positioned himself firmly on the wrong side of history on this one. He'll go down alongside Neville Chamberlain, and there was absolutely no need for him to do this to himself.

 

[ishtat]

Hitler owned Europe and had all of its resources available to use. For all his cruelty, what he didn't count on was the ability of the people to resist and fight back no matter what.

Ukraine is in the same situation (as is Russia) but Russia is in a position where it still has resources it can tap. Ukraine doesn't have that except for NATO and the US and we're all running out of supplies/weapons/materials we can send without risking our own national security. Eventually the pipeline will dry up.

Whatever "solution" the USA and Russia may cook up doesn't actually matter in the long run. Russia may get the territory they covet on paper. the USA may be enabled to strip Ukranian natural resources, but as a minimum Russia is guaranteed a century of rebellion and insurrection. Think Ireland or Poland, the latter a country with no legal existence for 123 years after partition in 1772. Conventional military warfare may cease, but the conflict will continue. Politicians never understand the concept of civil insurrection and they always lose in the end. Bluntly, a long term running sore may be in the best interests of everyone else - except the Russians and Ukranians.