For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ChloeTzang]

Putin has just ‘6–12 months’ left to afford his war — with or without Trump​

 

[ChloeTzang]

Trump's Inner Circle Drops F-Bomb Post Putin Alaska Meeting​

Steve Bannon 'Putin Has Something On Trump'

Trump biographer Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles for a scathing examination of Donald Trump’s summit with Vladimir Putin—and the shadow of Jeffrey Epstein that's cast over the entire affair. From Trump’s failed promises to release Epstein’s files, to his floundering attempts at deal-making in Ukraine, Wolff reveals how distraction, denial, and deference to Putin define Trump’s playbook. With insider texts, sharp analysis, and vivid accounts of the theatrics on the world stage, this episode unpacks the haunting ties between Trump, Russia, and Epstein—and what it all means for America’s future.

 

[icanhelp1]

Welcome brother! Hell yeah, let's all mobilize on the 'Eastern Front' and grind the Ruskies into the ground. Arm Ukraine to the teeth and missles to reach all the refineries, railyards, and military depots.

I saw a video today of Russian soldiers in shackles and chains being transported to the 'Western Front' seems those fellas aren't eager to get tossed into the meat grinder. So, yeah, they will run when the lead gets hot.

So what’s the answer? Maybe a massive mobilization by Western nations, the threat to put it all on the line along with the threat of secondary sanctions could persuade Putin and his oligarchs that they can’t win. Putin needs to be convinced he can’t win. Western Europe cannot continue to fight Russia through the Ukrainians.

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump's Inner Circle Drops F-Bomb Post Putin Alaska Meeting​

Steve Bannon 'Putin Has Something On Trump'

Trump biographer Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles for a scathing examination of Donald Trump’s summit with Vladimir Putin—and the shadow of Jeffrey Epstein that's cast over the entire affair. From Trump’s failed promises to release Epstein’s files, to his floundering attempts at deal-making in Ukraine, Wolff reveals how distraction, denial, and deference to Putin define Trump’s playbook. With insider texts, sharp analysis, and vivid accounts of the theatrics on the world stage, this episode unpacks the haunting ties between Trump, Russia, and Epstein—and what it all means for America’s future.

Steve Bannon has gone off the deep end a long time ago.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia Lost one more General | Trump Pushes Ukraine to surrender​

Deputy Commander of one of the Russian Army Groups taken out by Ukrainian Himars strike alomg with a convoy he was in

Witkoff - "Ukraine should give up territories to Russia for nothing...." - what a complete fucking idiot. Asked for the concessions Russia should make - "Russia will not occupy all of Ukraine." (If they cluld have, they wpuld have already - Witkoff and Trump are delusuional). Trump making WW3 more likely with every move.

White House incompetence - Trump doesn't like Zelensky personally, or Ukraine......Trump tweetig away....."everything depends on Ukraine blah blah blah..."

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukrainian intelligence noted that Trump is being overly aggressive in trying to force Zelenskyy to surrender territory to Russia. It is hinted that it appears to be very desperate and raises the question of why Trump is now suddenly pushing so hard.

 

[icanhelp1]

The view from Ukraine is somewhat diferent.

Essentially what has happened is that Trump made lots of noise about how if there was no immediate ceasefire from Russia it would be sanctions and pressure. Congress has a sanctions bill ready to go with overwhelmmg support in the Senate.

Putin flew in and Trump rolled like a French whore. No ceasefire. No pressure on Russia. No sanctions. Nope, Trump came out and said Ukraine must give up land, these are Putin's conditions, I'm not negotiating for Ukraine. Maybe in a few weeks this, maybe in in a few weeks that, maybe whatever whatever, but Zelensky must capitulate, because there were other conditions besides giving up the Donbas completely which basically ensure Russian control if Ukraine, which ISN'T going to happen.

I Zelemsky was silly enough to agree, which he isn't, the Ukrainians would turf him out on his ass and someone more hardline would replace him.

And we know Zelensky will turn up on Monday and Trump will try and browbeat him into agreeimg, which isn't goig to happen. Trump will the throw a tantrum, wash his hands off the whole thing, ensurimg trhe USA's participation in any international agreements and treaties is worthless, which it already is thanks to Trump, and we know he will then dohis best to help Putin.

TRump has been bought.


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Under the Biden administration there was not end in sight for the war. And with Harris at the helm, had she won, many billions more would have been spent with no return on the investment for the average taxpaying American who would have had no say.

 

[icanhelp1]

Ukrainian intelligence noted that Trump is being overly aggressive in trying to force Zelenskyy to surrender territory to Russia. It is hinted that it appears to be very desperate and raises the question of why Trump is now suddenly pushing so hard.

That’s why he meeting with western leaders this week along with Zelensky.

 

[Lazaran]

Steve Bannon has gone off the deep end a long time ago.

ineedhelp1 declares “Bannon has gone off the deep end a long time ago”…. but what about DonOld??? What about the orange racist that was good friends with Bannon??? What about the orange sexual predator who was good friends with JEFFREY EPSTEIN???





ineedhelp1



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ll74]

Under the Biden administration there was not end in sight for the war. And with Harris at the helm, had she won, many billions more would have been spent with no return on the investment for the average taxpaying American who would have had no say.

There is still no end in sight.

But we gave the invader a warm welcome here.

 

[icanhelp1]

There is still no end in sight.

But we gave the invader a warm welcome here.

Going into negotiations screaming at your opponent, yah that’s the ticket.

 

[ll74]

Going into negotiations screaming at your opponent, yah that’s the ticket.

What opponent? Wtf are you talking about?

 

[icanhelp1]

The sad face of an American President and Administration gone rogue vs the Leader of the Free World

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Answer me this. Where was Western Europe when Putin was amassing a huge military presence along the Ukrainian border. Did western leaders think that Putin was just having military training exercises. Western Europe played dead! Putin is an existential to Western Europe and should be prepared to face the music. If Germany, France, UK and Poland, 2 out of 4 with nuclear capabilities, gave Putin a real ultimatum maybe things would change. They act like the 300 lb giant that doesn’t believe he could beat the fuck out of the local bully.

 

[icanhelp1]

What opponent? Wtf are you talking about?

So Putin’s not our opponent?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Trump's delusional - and soon the Flamingo's will be coming home to roost.......looks like Ukraine has indeed built their own cruise missiles seeing as no-one would sell them any...... looking forward to some REALLY big bangs - especially as they are already apparently in serial production.

 

[ll74]

So Putin’s not our opponent?

Where did I suggest screaming?

Russia is our adversary.

They aren't our opponent. Our role is mediator.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[icanhelp1]

Where did I suggest screaming?

You posted a warm welcoming. I posted something along the lines of screaming at your opponent doesn’t help. You go ahead with playing your semantic word games.

Russia is our adversary.

They aren't our opponent. Our role is mediator.

They’re still, in your words, our adversary. Yes, Trump is playing mediator. Trying to negotiate a peace agreement.

 

[RoryN]

You go ahead with playing your semantic word games.

lol

I wonder if it's all those black daddies living by the 4 fs ( find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them ).

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blacks have a higher propensity of violence than all races combined.

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I find that African Americans are more racist than white folks...I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well.

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[ll74]

You posted a warm welcoming. I posted something along the lines of screaming at your opponent doesn’t help. You go ahead with playing your semantic word games.

We gave the invader a warm welcome to our country.

I have no idea why "screaming at our opponent" is along the same lines.

They’re still, in your words, our adversary. Yes, Trump is playing mediator. Trying to negotiate a peace agreement.

They are our adversary....in the definition of the word. They (and he) has been actively working to destabilize western governments. They actively work to break up NATO on the regular.

He is a mediator of two opposing sides. Neither are our opponent.

One is our ally. The other is our adversary.

 

[icanhelp1]

lol



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I understand life is hard for you, but being stupid makes it that much harder.
Welsher

 

[dmallord]

So what’s the answer? Maybe a massive mobilization by Western nations, the threat to put it all on the line along with the threat of secondary sanctions could persuade Putin and his oligarchs that they can’t win. Putin needs to be convinced he can’t win. Western Europe cannot continue to fight Russia through the Ukrainians.

Finally, a good question and an honest stance on ending the threat of Russian aggression. I'm glad you asked. As an older guy, I believe your thoughts are worth considering. Though that buildup could push Europe toward a NATO-level conflict, doesn't it?

First, I believe Ukraine hasn't requested foreign troops to fight against Russia. Although Putin has used foreign troops because he's running out of resources for his grinder tactics. Sending European troops might seem justified since Putin has called in allies for help. However, since Zelynskyy hasn't asked, I suggest we cease denying him the armor and defense equipment he requests. It's clear he's running out of young men, which is a tragedy for his nation and also for the Russian mothers suffering their massive losses. I feel compassion for the mothers, but not for the Russian military machine, which deserves destruction—either incineration or at least enough devastation to cause it to collapse.

Ukraine, with the proper weaponry, could weaken Russia's resources, breaking the economic backbone that supports Putin's war machine. To Ukraine's credit, it targets military sites and strategic military development, and oil that fuels the military. Ukraine has developed some impressive weapons, and their effectiveness is apparent against the Russian navy, air force, and ground troops. All of these achievements have been accomplished internally. That said, external resources are still needed. They are desperately needed.

News feeds show Russia's once massive tank and artillery have faded significantly. More troops are shown riding motorcycles, bikes, scooters, and even pushing wheelbarrows of ammunition to the front lines. Those are not good signs for Russia. The most recent Russian breakthrough has been closed and pushed back by Ukraine. The appearance of significant advancement was thwarted. Still things are perilous for Ukraines massive frontlines.

A show of support against Putin is urgently needed. Trump isn't helping to halt Putin's aggression by failing to follow through on his promises of severe sanctions. The pattern of two weeks followed by two more weeks of deflection clearly signals to Putin that he can do whatever he wants. That must stop. The EU needs to adopt an aggressive military stance and supply Ukraine thoroughly to confront the bear where it hurts the most. Our president should tighten the economic belt and sign the pending weapons bill. If he desires the Nobel Peace Prize, strength is the way to get there, not by placating Putin and hoping he will change his ways. Putin is KGB through and through—no soul, no heart—completely focused on making a powerful legacy to leave behind.


Deny him that legacy, soon, and let Russians pay for the devastation in Ukraine and then rebuild their own losses, sans the military.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Recommended uniform of the day for European visitors to the White House.

 

[HisArpy]

Recommended uniform of the day for European visitors to the White House.

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I don't understand how you can continue with this pretense. The US is willing to give Article 5 level protections directly from the US and not through NATO, and yet you still think Trump is supporting Putin.

And supporting that level of disrespect in your meme isn't helpful to solving the political issues which created the conflict in the first place.

I also think you need to talk to your parents about what happens when war is allowed to continue unchecked.

 

[Baztrachian]

Kremlin Purges PARALYZE Russia’s Army​

The Kremlin is consumed by purges, with the FSB sabotaging generals and turning fear into policy. Russia’s army is paralyzed, morale has broken, and factories burn as Ukraine strikes deeper into Russian territory. From refineries to chemical plants to the Kerch bridge, Moscow is losing the fight abroad while tearing itself apart at home.

This is the unraveling of Putin’s regime - a power struggle where fear replaces strategy, and collapse is no longer a question of if, but when

Well, if Ukraine can't cripple Russia then maybe Russia can.