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ChloeTzang said:
1) won't happen.
2) won't happen and with no US boots on the ground, it's no deal. No-one trusts Putin
3) Article 5 deal is just more worthless paper

Putin won't agree to a ceasefire in place - he knows his only help of getting Donetsk is to have Trump force Zelensky to capitulate and that's not happening
Putin won't show for any meeting with Zelenskyy
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The talks today seem to have gone very well. It sure looked like the US, Ukraine, and the European leaders are aligned on key provisions of a negotiating position, very upbeat and united. Putin has shown zero interest in any serious peace plan, however, if he was hoping for division between the WH and Europe, he could not be feeling happy about what he saw on TV today.
 
Rightguide said:
There’s only one man on the planet who can actually bring Putin and Zelensky to the table, Donald Trump. First, he had to sit down with Putin and see if a path to peace even existed. Today, he tests whether Zelensky is willing to step up. If a deal isn’t possible, we can walk away, no American lives wasted, no wars fought. The American people aren’t asking for a new American conflict, only common sense.
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And!!! they're selling military equipment to Europe (NATO) not just giving it away at the expense of the American taxpayer.
 
BabyBoomer50s said:
The talks today seem to have gone very well. It sure looked like the US, Ukraine, and the European leaders are aligned on key provisions of a negotiating position, very upbeat and united. Putin has shown zero interest in any serious peace plan, however, if he was hoping for division between the WH and Europe, he could not be feeling happy about what he saw on TV today.
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Yes, from that perspective it's more positive. The concern of courzse is that when Russia fails to respond, Trump will turn against Ukraine again
 
icanhelp1 said:
And!!! they're selling military equipment to Europe (NATO) not just giving it away at the expense of the American taxpayer.
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Sell or give, as long as Ukraine gets it, it's all good

We nowhave the illusion of making progress, and this will keep going in circles for a very long time without any real results. As long as Trump sells weapons to Ukraine, ot doesn't matter.

Trump is terrified of Putin with his knees shaking, and even more afraid of admitting his failure with him. Now it’s all going to nbe these meaningless ritual dances with “deadlines,” “bilateral meetings,” “trilateral meetings,” debates over who supposedly wants peace more or less, “deals,” phone calls, "peace deals" with and without ceasefires. All of this will drag on endlessly -- anything to create the illusion of frantic activity, hollow PR, while doing nothing to actually force Russia to stop the war.

Putin couldn’t be happier with this. As long as the useless circling continues, he keeps killing, he thinks he's winning, and there's no one holding him back.
 
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ChloeTzang said:
Nothing so crass. Two hundred F16's, a thousand Bradleys and US industry supplying a few million drones to Ukraine should do it.

Oh, and sanctions. Let's not forget sanctions. The bill is ready.....
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Europe can supply those systems to Ukraine and we sell to NATO. Who would fly 200 f-16s?

The new funding system know as PURL is already up and running. The Netherlands have deposited 500 million for new American weapon systems while they donate weapons to Ukraine, at least that's how I understand it. Tons more to follow.
 
When you look at this AFU "Flamingo" FP-5 missile. Think of 1950's US Matador or Mace ground launched cruise missiles revised with 2025 technology in a six-ton, 3,000 km / 2000 mile range 1 ton-warhead package. The FP-5 cost is claimed to be 1/5th the $1.4 million unit cost of an American Tomahawk. Current production is said to be 50 per month.

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icanhelp1 said:
Europe can supply those systems to Ukraine and we sell to NATO. Who would fly 200 f-16s?

The new funding system know as PURL is already up and running. The Netherlands have deposited 500 million for new American weapon systems while they donate weapons to Ukraine, at least that's how I understand it. Tons more to follow.
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Who was the numb nuts on the board that was mocking JD for his statements regarding the US taxpayer no longer funding Ukraine?
 
ChloeTzang said:
When you look at this AFU "Flamingo" FP-5 missile. Think of 1950's US Matador or Mace ground launched cruise missiles revised with 2025 technology in a six-ton, 3,000 km / 2000 mile range 1 ton-warhead package. The FP-5 cost is claimed to be 1/5th the $1.4 million unit cost of an American Tomahawk. Current production is said to be 50 per month.

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Or an upside down Snark. :)
 
Expressing his heartfelt desire for Peace in Our Time, overnight, the genocidal mass murderer and war criminal Putin aunched 270 Shahed type strike UAVs, 5 Iskander-M ballistic missiles and 5 Kh-101 cruise missiles at Ukrainian civilian targets. Ukrainian air defenders shot down 230 UAVs, 2 ballistic missiles, and 4 Kh-101 missiles.


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Ukraine’s New Missile Changes Everything!​



Ukraine unveils NEW Flamingo cruise missile poised to strike deep inside Russia​


Flamingo, Ukraine’s 3,000km-range Game Changer Missile​

 

Russia’s Elite Crimea Air Squadron Is CRIPPLED – Only 5 Jets Left!​

Russia’s once-elite fleet of Su-30SM fighter jets in Crimea is nearly gone. Since the invasion began, Ukraine has destroyed or disabled at least seven of the dozen jets Moscow deployed to the peninsula, each worth about $50 million. From the March 2022 shootdown near Mykolaiv to the August 15, 2025 loss around Snake Island, Russia has watched its air power in Crimea collapse.

Key moments include the August 2022 Saky air base explosions, which wiped out eight aircraft in a single day, and the May 2, 2025 strike when a Ukrainian Magura maritime drone downed a Russian Su-30 — the first time in history a naval drone destroyed a warplane. The mounting losses have cost the Kremlin $350 million, weakened its military confidence in Crimea, and further strained its already battered economy.

 
The President of a country comes to Washington to plead for his country's existence and the leader of the fucking free world wants to show him that his name/motto is on a hat.

No words.

"Mr President, our people are fighting for their very lives against an invading force"

"You know they put my name on a hat....they don't do that for non-important people, right?"
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I think this is the quote I'm using for Trump's position from now on.


"You know they put my name on a hat....they don't do that for non-important people, right?"
 
I'm sorry...I need to post this again.

Ukraine is fighting for their lives.

And we are concerned about his suit and
.our fucking President is showing off the fucking gift shop of his motto.

And we want people to express their homage to our country?

I will say again
This
Is
Our
Fucking
President.


And some of you are proud of this man.
Without question.

Are you fucking serious?

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