have race relations in the US deteriorated since obama came to power?

[Que]

I thought that was a source because it was underlined. Weird how it wasn't. Since you obviously just pulled it outta your ass.

And not all judges are appointed, some are elected and either way that doesn't make them the executive branch. Jesus Christ when did you go to school?

You are a fucking idiot. Hard to believe but you are dumber than Sgt Spidey. You were talking of the Judicial branch of the FEDERAL government. Those judges are ALL appointed. By the President.

McConnell is not making ANY laws. McConnell cannot get ANYTHING to the floor of the Senate which is controlled by Harry Reid. He cannot even get an amendment proposed on a bill, much less passed.

What kind of a question is "when did you go to school??" when whatever you did for education clearly did not result in you being educated on any of the things you are talking about.

 

[Disgustipated]

When and where are two different things.

 

[Que]

Made the all-critical correction.

When is an even dumber question since the method for seating federal judges on the bench hasn't changed.

Isn't it time for you to post a count of who posted how many times as some sort of indictment of who is "winning" the argument?

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I don't think there is much of an argument. Not one that I've seen here anyway. There are a lot of disappointed people out there who had high hopes.

 

[eyer]

Reading your contributions to this thread has brought déjà vu upon me, Dicksmith the utopian.

They remind me of a "younger generation" some time back who also proclaimed to stand up against their elders, to occupy, to demand equal rights for all, and to rid society of all the old fogy ideals which, they also proclaimed, stood in their and progress' way...

...and now you're whining about them being "your" generation's problem(s).

Too friggin' funny.

But, instructive nonetheless because such examples simply prove once more:

You utopians are the most naïve of all...

...because political reality never truly registers with you at all.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Were either Johnson or Wilson (!) or Carter or Clinton ever widely accused of not even being American?

There's your difference.

Bingo.

The issue I have is that tons of people these last few years try to tell me that THIS IS NOT A RACE THING, while consistently framing their grievances in the language of race. What I see are people rushing to defend the worst, most bigoted scumbags imaginable, all against the threat of unarmed black teenagers wearing hoodies. What I see are people who consistently side with power, against those who have none, and what I see are lots of people I know making it very clear that, to them, black lives simply matter less. Or gay lives. Or poor lives. Or those of sexually-active women who have chosen not to sleep with the speakers personally. And nothing you can say to defend yourself is going to justify these people you've thrown in with, or the positions you find yourself supporting.

What's that line again? "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

Exactly. When Ishmael refers to Obamacare as "Shuck 'n Jive care", we know exactly where he's coming from.

"If you don't use the N-word, it's not racist!" - The Vettebigot

 

[Skiddles2014]

I'm only here to sit in Ann's lap.

Don't sit on his boner.

 

[Skiddles2014]

Butt-obsessed, much?

When conversing with an ass it only seems appropriate.

 

[Mischka]

Race relations is shorthand for a larger cultural shift occurring in this country. The white population is shrinking; the majority of the older white population is conservative. The younger population is more racially diverse; the majority of that population is not conservative. There are far more variables than that, of course, but the first (half-) black President serves as the poster child and lightening rod for this sea change.

 

[Skiddles2014]

Race relations is shorthand for a larger cultural shift occurring in this country. The white population is shrinking; the majority of the older white population is conservative. The younger population is more racially diverse; the majority of that population is not conservative. There are far more variables than that, of course, but the first (half-) black President serves as the poster child and lightening rod for this sea change.

Like queerbait says...There is a black president, what more do blacks want?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Race relations is shorthand for a larger cultural shift occurring in this country. The white population is shrinking; the majority of the older white population is conservative. The younger population is more racially diverse; the majority of that population is not conservative. There are far more variables than that, of course, but the first (half-) black President serves as the poster child and lightening rod for this sea change.

The time of the White Patriarch comes to a close, and the Fox News core demographic isn't pleased about that. With each presidential election since 2000, and for the foreseeable future, white voters decrease about two percent each cycle.

They're bitter about that particular loss of privilege.

 

[Wrong Element]

Race relations is shorthand for a larger cultural shift occurring in this country. The white population is shrinking; the majority of the older white population is conservative. The younger population is more racially diverse; the majority of that population is not conservative. There are far more variables than that, of course, but the first (half-) black President serves as the poster child and lightening rod for this sea change.

Not to be pedantic about it, but the white population isn't shrinking in total numbers; it's just not growing as quickly as the nonwhite population (you also have to factor in here the number of Latinos who do identify as white).

But there's not much doubt that there's a whole lot of anxiety about an America where whites don't run the whole show anymore. My father used to say, years before anyone ever realized Obama would soon be on his way, that his biggest concern about a black president was that he couldn't be "impartial." But the impartiality of all our white presidents has always just been assumed (or if it wasn't assumed, it didn't affect the majority so no one gave two shits).

The notion that we have a racial zero-sum game in America, and if Obama is president it must mean that whites as a group are getting the short end, is the unspoken premise behind all these attitudes. Where else can this insane idea that Obama is a racist be coming from?

 

[Adre]

The notion that we have a racial zero-sum game in America, and if Obama is president it must mean that whites as a group are getting the short end, is the unspoken premise behind all these attitudes. Where else can this insane idea that Obama is a racist be coming from?

From Vetteman?

 

[possum123]

People elect one of the most racist people there is as president then have to ask if race relations have changed?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

People elect one of the most racist people there is as president then have to ask if race relations have changed?

http://www.minnpost.com/sites/default/files/asset/v/v9fhnd/v9fhnd.jpg

This was you with the sign, wasn't it, Possy? 'Fess up.

 

[Skiddles2014]

People elect one of the most racist people there is as president then have to ask if race relations have changed?

We're not talking about Bush.

This thread is about Obama.

 

[eyer]

Where else can this insane idea that Obama is a racist be coming from?

I think it's impossible for Obama to be racist, as the world unconsciously refers to that word today...

...since his mother was white and his dad black.

But a truer bigot in the Oval Office has never been seen (and the Office has hosted a vast number of that ilk).

Revealing his true vision of "our folks" and unashamedly pandering to "our folks" voters simply because of the color of his and their skin...

...you progressives would skewer a conservative President for that flavor of bigotry.

What's truly telling is that if a conservative-of-any-color President was currently in Office...

...your subjective "notion"/"premise" above would self-invalidate.

 

[possum123]

http://www.minnpost.com/sites/default/files/asset/v/v9fhnd/v9fhnd.jpg

This was you with the sign, wasn't it, Possy? 'Fess up.

Where did you get my picture?

 

[possum123]

We're not talking about Bush.

This thread is about Obama.

Do you actually think Bush was more racist than Obama?

 

[Wrong Element]

I think it's impossible for Obama to be racist, as the world unconsciously refers to that word today...

...since his mother was white and his dad black.

But a truer bigot in the Oval Office has never been seen (and the Office has hosted a vast number of that ilk).

Revealing his true vision of "our folks" and unashamedly pandering to "our folks" voters simply because of the color of his and their skin...

...you progressives would skewer a conservative President for that flavor of bigotry.

What's truly telling is that if a conservative-of-any-color President was currently in Office...

...your subjective "notion"/"premise" above would self-invalidate.

"Our folks" = Democratic voters. It's only racial paranoids who think otherwise.

 

[eyer]

"Our folks" = Democratic voters.

And how is that not bigoted? He's the President of the United States of America, doofus.

And why did you intentionally omit "unashamedly pandering to "our folks" voters simply because of the color of his and their skin"?

Do you also equally and so disingenuously dismiss that President Obama intentionally, strategically panders to Democrat black voters specifically because of the color of his and their skin?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Do you actually think Bush was more racist than Obama?

I don't think Bush was racist. I think Obama isn't "racist" enough.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Where did you get my picture?

From your user profile over at Aryan Nation.

Do you actually think Bush was more racist than Obama?

Good point. No president I can think of in the post-WW2 era could realistically be called a "racist", but that won't stop the Vettebigot or the schmuck Miles from trying to paint Obama as one.

 

[doowdniw]

.

They're bitter about that particular loss of privilege.

When you say "that particular loss of privilege", to exactly which particular loss of privilege are you referring?

 

[RobDownSouth]

When you say "that particular loss of privilege", to exactly which particular loss of privilege are you referring?

Their ability to force their worldview onto the entire nation by dint of numerical supermacy.

Now, they're actually going to have to learn to compromise to enact their policies, and as we all know, "compromise" is anathema to True Believers, (i.e. others should compromise, but not them...they are negotiatin' from the moral high ground dontcha know. You betcha.)