have race relations in the US deteriorated since obama came to power?

[CandiCame]

Should he be a part of that dialogue?

Cops shoot people of all colors.

But not in the same numbers.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

But not in the same numbers.

Have those numbers improved since Obama became president?

 

[CandiCame]

I'd ask what Query's requirements were for equality but I feel like that would be a headache and a half and I don't want to unleash that kind of ignorance onto the world. Apparently the constitution was wrong. All folk aren't created equal and it's perfectly acceptable to give one group harsher treatment than another, longer sentences for the same crime, a smaller higher rate even tho they hold more degrees, etcetera.

 

[Learnsmith]

Should he be a part of that dialogue?

Cops shoot people of all colors.

He has been. And, by the way, been a damn sight more calm about it than the people who've been losing their shit all over the Internet. Look, people act as if Barack Obama were just up in the White House gnawing on a bucket of fried chicken, blasting NWA out the windows, while getting head from a white girl in the Lincoln bedroom and his hair cornrowed by Michelle Obama. It's caricaturish. It's laughable. And these fuckwits are busy sniveling that HE'S the reason this country has a problem with race. Get the fuck out.

 

[Que]

Man, if my comment is considered obsessing to you, then what the hell is your previous comment classified as?

Oh yeah, massive butthurt.

Butt-obsessed, much?

 

[Learnsmith]

But not in the same numbers.

And again, THIS.

 

[Que]

He has been. And, by the way, been a damn sight more calm about it than the people who've been losing their shit all over the Internet. Look, people act as if Barack Obama were just up in the White House gnawing on a bucket of fried chicken, blasting NWA out the windows, while getting head from a white girl in the Lincoln bedroom and his hair cornrowed by Michelle Obama. It's caricaturish. It's laughable. And these fuckwits are busy sniveling that HE'S the reason this country has a problem with race. Get the fuck out.

Who, (other than you) has it pictured that way, racist?

 

[CandiCame]

Have those numbers improved since Obama became president?

Probably not because he's the head of the executive, not judicial branch and would therefore have no effect on them. See, in the states we have three branches of government, and the judicial branch is the one that handles the problems that you're talking about. Here's a middle school lesson plan explaining why.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

He has been. And, by the way, been a damn sight more calm about it than the people who've been losing their shit all over the Internet (such as yourself). Look, people act as if Barack Obama were just up in the White House gnawing on a bucket of fried chicken, blasting NWA out the windows, while getting head from a white girl in the Lincoln bedroom and his hair cornrowed by Michelle Obama. It's caricaturish. It's laughable. And these fuckwits are busy sniveling that HE'S the reason this country has a problem with race. Get the fuck out.

Hyperbole much? So he has been involved and failed at making any appreciable improvements?

 

[CandiCame]

BTW, I am constantly impressed by adults who don't know basic social studies. Wasn't someone on this board saying that the president, not the senate, drafted law? Seems like I saw that the other day. The presidency isn't magic. The abolition of absolute power was the entire reason for creating the US system of government.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Probably not because he's the head of the executive, not judicial branch and would therefore have no effect on them. See, in the states we have three branches of government, and the judicial branch is the one that handles the problems that you're talking about. Here's a middle school lesson plan explaining why.

Race relations is a judicial problem? He's the most powerful man in the world. Surely he could do something?

 

[Que]

But not in the same numbers.

In miniscule numbers. I would hazard a guess that the number of shootings of blacks as a proportion to the number of black, violent convicted offenders is probably roughly on par to the number of say shootings of white suspects as their proportion of violent crime.

Blacks tend to reside in higher crime statistic areas. (I am talking violent crime, nothing to do with the drug sentencing guideline problems)

The violent crime occurring in black neighborhoods is committed by blacks on blacks..

But sure lets hype up the next (probably justified) shooting. Just to keep tensions high, shall we?

 

[CandiCame]

Race relations is a judicial problem? He's the most powerful man in the world. Surely he could do something?

Yeah, mostly a judicial problems. There are few overtly racist laws, 99% of the problem is in the way the laws are handled, by the judicial branch, from judges to cops and so forth. The presidency isn't that powerful. He would have to join with the senate to check the judicial branch, which he's tried to do several times, but the senate couldn't agree to cooperate. In the past 8 years there have been so many senate debauchals that we are barely standing.

Why do you think the president has absolute power? Not being the most powerful person in the country was the EXACT REASON the presidency was created with the system of checks and balances. We didn't want another monarchy. And the other branches have checked the hell out of this president. You know this already. You remember making the poster in 3rd grade.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Yeah, mostly a judicial problems. There are few overtly racist laws, 99% of the problem is in the way the laws are handled, by the judicial branch, from judges to cops and so forth. The presidency isn't that powerful. He would have to join with the senate to check the judicial branch, which he's tried to do several times, but the senate couldn't agree to cooperate. In the past 8 years there have been so many senate debauchals that we are barely standing.

Why do you think the president has absolute power? Not being the most powerful person in the country was the EXACT REASON the presidency was created with the system of checks and balances. We didn't want another monarchy. And the other branches have checked the hell out of this president. You know this already. You remember making the poster in 3rd grade.

No, it's not a judicial problem. What about the executive order? Maybe he could do another one of those thingys and fix it all.

 

[CandiCame]

In miniscule numbers. I would hazard a guess that the number of shootings of blacks as a proportion to the number of black, violent convicted offenders is probably roughly on par to the number of say shootings of white suspects as their proportion of violent crime.

Blacks tend to reside in higher crime statistic areas. (I am talking violent crime, nothing to do with the drug sentencing guideline problems)

The violent crime occurring in black neighborhoods is committed by blacks on blacks..

But sure lets hype up the next (probably justified) shooting. Just to keep tensions high, shall we?

And you'd be wrong. Tho blacks and whites commit and are convicted of violent crimes in similar numbers, the sentences of black folk are, on average, 60% more harsh for no reason. Apples to apples.

 

[Learnsmith]

Hyperbole much? So he has been involved and failed at making any appreciable improvements?

Comic effect, that's called. If you don't like the picture I paint of your contemporaries, tell them not to make it so easy. I won't even say that he's failed - I'll simply say that motherfuckers will always be motherfuckers, and that the civil among us must simply render them irrelevant. Call it "The Wise Man's Burden."

 

[CandiCame]

No, it's not a judicial problem. What about the executive order? Maybe he could do another one of those thingys and fix it all.

Those can be struck down by the judicial branch. Because third grade social studies are a thing.

Are you being facetious or are you serious? You're making fun of me, right?

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Comic effect, that's called. If you don't like the picture I paint of your contemporaries, tell them not to make it so easy. I won't even say that he's failed - I'll simply say that motherfuckers will always be motherfuckers, and that the civil among us must simply render them irrelevant. Call it "The Wise Man's Burden."

I don't associate myself with groups. Especially groups that support the suppression of free speech.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Those can be struck down by the judicial branch. Because third grade social studies are a thing.

Are you being facetious or are you serious? You're making fun of me, right?

Ever since you said the racial problem in the US is a judicial one. Yes.

 

[cjh]

Who, (other than you) has it pictured that way, racist?

Busybody. Koala. Cade. MemphisMan. PossumNumbers.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Busybody. Koala. Cade. MemphisMan. PossumNumbers.

Koala is dead.

 

[CandiCame]

Ever since you said the racial problem in the US is a judicial one. Yes.

Sweet. That is true tho, about the judicial branch being at fault more than the other two.

 

[CandiCame]

Koala is dead.

Aaaw, he may or may not have been our arch nemisis

 

[cjh]

Koala is dead.

I blame Obama.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Sweet. That is true tho, about the judicial branch being at fault more than the other two.

What the hell are you talking about?