Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[Sean Renaud]

Third movement party hands the election to the Democrats.


Their people rarely defect, they just hold their nose and vote in their own self-interest.

If Republicans did that we'd be in an entirely new world.

 

[RoryN]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/08/politics/donald-trump-taxes-wealthy/

And the clapping of Republican applause gets slower and slower...

It is the main appeal of the Democrat Party; we take care of you, all we need is your vote and that is just about the easiest job in the world. We will give you enough benefits to live a minimum wage lifestyle..

Trump [now] supports raising the minimum wage. See the link, above.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Both Trump and Clinton have unfavorable ratings over 50% which makes it kinda crazy that they are the nominees.
And much of that dislike is from their own parties, or would be if Trump were actually a republican, which I contend he isn't.
The closed caucuses are a pile of bullshit.
Independents get no say.

Nor should they.

It would be like having the fans vote for a draft pick for their local team, they don't own it, they don't run it, they are not responsible for its success or failure, they are passive participants. The primaries are for the active participants, those with skin in the game.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/08/politics/donald-trump-taxes-wealthy/

And the clapping of Republican applause gets slower and slower...



Trump [now] supports raising the minimum wage. See the link, above.

I called out Trump's economic sophisms long ago and even started a thread describing why I was voting Libertarian. Please go back to your obituary threads. Has no one died today?

 

[miles]

His big mouth aside Trump is just another run of the mill RINO the GOP trots out every four years and gets their asses handed to them in the general election. I don't know which is worse: losing to The Beast or The Fraud (twice).

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not that Trump is really the same RINO but what's worse is you failed to rally the troops around. . .are there even real Republicans with a prayer in hell of winning a primary?

 

[toubab]

At the present time, and perhaps for the foreseeable future, "real" Republicans, meaning real conservatives, not only cannot win the GOP presidential nomination, more importantly they cannot win the general election. A RINO like Trump is the best chance they have to win. The only real chance, actually. Someone like Cruz would lose the general in a landslide.

 

[Adre]

At the present time, and perhaps for the foreseeable future, "real" Republicans, meaning real conservatives, not only cannot win the GOP presidential nomination, more importantly they cannot win the general election. A RINO like Trump is the best chance they have to win. The only real chance, actually. Someone like Cruz would lose the general in a landslide.

For which I am grateful.

 

[toubab]

For which I am grateful.

Same here.

 

[pensivepoet]

Same here.

Yeah, that tea party thing didn't work out so well.

 

[toubab]

Yeah, that tea party thing didn't work out so well.

Not on the presidential level. It worked very well as far as the Senate and House are concerned, however. Almost unbelievably well. The GOP mopped the floor with Democrats in those institutions during the Obama years.

 

[pensivepoet]

Not on the presidential level. It worked very well as far as the Senate and House are concerned, however. Almost unbelievably well. The GOP mopped the floor with Democrats in those institutions during the Obama years.

Yeah, but I think it may have had it's moment.
We'll see this election.
And the fact that Obama is a great campaigner for himself, but shitty for others, might have had something to do with that.
Bill Clinton understood the importance of getting others elected and campaigned relentlessly for them.
Obama didn't seem to care.
When Wisconsin had their do over election for Walker, Obama ignored it and Walker was back in and it made labor look weak.
Obama should've supported the dem even if it was a shitty candidate.
Of course, on the other hand, I don't think I'd want Obama showing up to campaign for me.

 

[Sean]

His big mouth aside Trump is just another run of the mill RINO the GOP trots out every four years and gets their asses handed to them in the general election. I don't know which is worse: losing to The Beast or The Fraud (twice).

Ted Cruz got his arse handed to him, remember?

 

[toubab]

Yeah, but I think it may have had it's moment.
We'll see this election.
And the fact that Obama is a great campaigner for himself, but shitty for others, might have had something to do with that.
Bill Clinton understood the importance of getting others elected and campaigned relentlessly for them.
Obama didn't seem to care.
When Wisconsin had their do over election for Walker, Obama ignored it and Walker was back in and it made labor look weak.
Obama should've supported the dem even if it was a shitty candidate.
Of course, on the other hand, I don't think I'd want Obama showing up to campaign for me.

Obama has always been about Obama. It's who he is. Not that he's much different from most people who desire to be president.

 

[pensivepoet]

I've been listening to the posturing from certain republican figures the last couple days, and as crazy as it would be, I'm beginning to wonder if the rnc isn't still going to try an end around.
It screams party suicide, but until Ryan comes out of that meeting Thursday smiling and holding Trump's arm up, I'm going to wonder...

 

[RoryN]

I called out Trump's economic sophisms long ago and even started a thread describing why I was voting Libertarian.

Libertarians would be wise to tell fuckwits like you that they want no part of your vote.

 

[miles]

At the present time, and perhaps for the foreseeable future, "real" Republicans, meaning real conservatives, not only cannot win the GOP presidential nomination, more importantly they cannot win the general election. A RINO like Trump is the best chance they have to win. The only real chance, actually. Someone like Cruz would lose the general in a landslide.

Actually a RINO just about guarantees the GOP will lose in November. Millions of conservative voters will either sit this one out like they did in 2008 and 2012 or vote Libertarian.

 

[Adre]

Actually a RINO just about guarantees the GOP will lose in November. Millions of conservative voters will either sit this one out like they did in 2008 and 2012 or vote Libertarian.

You really don't get it do you?

 

[miles]

Obama has always been about Obama. It's who he is. Not that he's much different from most people who desire to be president.

An inexperienced junior senator with a questionable background who is an incompetent, corrupt, pathological liar?

Hmm...sounds exactly like The Hildabeast. At least Dems are consistent.

 

[miles]

Hey Adre, why don't you do something new for a change - like start your first thread?

Putz.

 

[Adre]

Hey Adre, why don't you do something new for a change - like start your first thread?

Putz.

You think starting threads make you smart? Or interesting?

 

[RoryN]

You really don't get it do you?

No, he doesn't.

You think starting threads make you smart? Or interesting?

Yes, he does.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You really don't get it do you?

He certainly does not.

He cannot fathom that ideologues such as himself are the "tail that wags the dog". These ideologues have demanded ideological purity from their candidates, unable or unwilling to recognize they don't have sufficient numbers to elect one by themselves. "Compromise" is a dirty word to these folks.

Trump just bested sixteen of the GOP's bestest and brightest candidates and came out on top. Whether Miles cares to admit it or not, Trump articulates the angst of the typical conservative voter in 2016.

The Trump voter no longer accepts Miles vision for Murica ("The solution to any problem is a tax cut for the rich or a stern lecture to the poor"). Taking the typical Trump voter for granted has cost Miles and his zealots quite a bit in this election cycle.

 

[snugglestruggle]

I've been listening to the posturing from certain republican figures the last couple days, and as crazy as it would be, I'm beginning to wonder if the rnc isn't still going to try an end around.
It screams party suicide, but until Ryan comes out of that meeting Thursday smiling and holding Trump's arm up, I'm going to wonder...

The selection of Trump by republican voters shows just how disconnected the Republican elites/donor class from the average party member. They didn't learn anything from the 2 mid term landslides the voters gave them.

The "Conservatives" /donor class in the party must live in Pleasantville because they still think it's the 80's. There is no conservative or moral majority in America, not any more.

I predict if the republican establishment doesn't get on the Trump train and Hillary is elected as a result, the republican voters will never forgive them. It's lights out. A party is nothing without voters.

 

[miles]

Look...it's SickBastardDownSouth to wish that my children will die a painful death in a fire....or is it to accuse someone of adopting a child for reasons I can't express here?

Naahhhh...he'd never do that.