Hey, gun nuts!

[Peregrinator]

It means the round is accurate enough to group within approx one inch in a hundred yards, 2 inches at 200, 3 inches at 300, and so on.

Oh, I dig...it's like, physics and shit.

 

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[Peregrinator]

A rifle that can shoot inbto a minute of angle is considered a fairly accurate rifle. A good prairie dog gun will shoot into a half minute of angle or better.

I suppose if I cared enough I could do the math and see if the term is accurate or just colloquial.

I still don't understand why you'd want to shoot prairie dogs. I mean, I get it, the landowner doesn't like them, but why on earth would you drive from SoCal to Montana just for the opportunity to shoot them? What's the appeal?

 

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[Peregrinator]

I'll save you the trouble son:

http://www.snipercountry.com/articles/mildot_moa.asp

Cool link. Thanks!

 

[koalabear]

I suppose if I cared enough I could do the math and see if the term is accurate or just colloquial.

I still don't understand why you'd want to shoot prairie dogs. I mean, I get it, the landowner doesn't like them, but why on earth would you drive from SoCal to Montana just for the opportunity to shoot them? What's the appeal?

There's a shortage of wolves.

 

[thør]

There's a shortage of wolves.

Eat moose, 15000 wolves can't be wrong.

 

[Peregrinator]

There's a shortage of wolves.

And ferrets, yeah.

 

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[Peregrinator]

It's a huge sport where some of the best marksmen around show up and have some fun culling what only amounts to a tiny percentage of the existing population. Why do people swat flies, and trap rats?

Okay, but I don't drive for two days just to swat flies or trap rats.

 

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[Peregrinator]

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g79/jbravo688/vetteman/Gopher.jpg

It's just one of the pastimes in Montana I was invited to participate in during the course of my many trips up there both hunting and otherwise.

Fair enough. I'm not really taking you to task. I never really understand killing for anything other than defense or food.

 

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[Peregrinator]

I don't eat rats, flies, ants, or black widows, either.

I suppose not. You vegans are insane.

 

[Peregrinator]

Next question: What's the best double action .357 magnum made?

 

[Ishmael]

Next question: What's the best double action .357 magnum made?

You just love to start shit, don't ya?

The 'Best' out of the box DA .357 revolver made is the Colt Python. Smoothest action, best finish, best lock up of any of the stock revolvers. The 'Dan Wesson's' are probably a close second. Smith produced two DA's of comparable finish and action smoothness, but neither were/are available in .357.

That being said, the best DA .357 revolver is one that you can hit the target with. I always liked the Smith 19 (K-Frame), but it will shoot "loose" if you continually shoot .357 mags in it. If you shoot .38 wad cutters it's one of the most accurate, pleasing to shoot, revolvers you can pick up. There are people that can shoot Smiths and can't hit a prairie tipped on edge with a Colt, and vice versa. More than a few claim this is due to the direction of the cylinder rotation. I don't know or care.

The Smith 27 (and it's descendents) is a good pistol if you have a large hand. I never liked any of the Smith N-frame guns.

Ruger turns out a good product as well.

I've never picked up a S&W (recent manufacture) or a Ruger that did not require work on the action to keep them from feeling 'gritty.' The Smith actions are actually easier to work on than the Ruger's due to the design.

Ishmael

 

[koalabear]

You just love to start shit, don't ya?

The 'Best' out of the box DA .357 revolver made is the Colt Python. Smoothest action, best finish, best lock up of any of the stock revolvers. The 'Dan Wesson's' are probably a close second. Smith produced two DA's of comparable finish and action smoothness, but neither were/are available in .357.

That being said, the best DA .357 revolver is one that you can hit the target with. I always liked the Smith 19 (K-Frame), but it will shoot "loose" if you continually shoot .357 mags in it. If you shoot .38 wad cutters it's one of the most accurate, pleasing to shoot, revolvers you can pick up. There are people that can shoot Smiths and can't hit a prairie tipped on edge with a Colt, and vice versa. More than a few claim this is due to the direction of the cylinder rotation. I don't know or care.

The Smith 27 (and it's descendents) is a good pistol if you have a large hand. I never liked any of the Smith N-frame guns.

Ruger turns out a good product as well.

I've never picked up a S&W (recent manufacture) or a Ruger that did not require work on the action to keep them from feeling 'gritty.' The Smith actions are actually easier to work on than the Ruger's due to the design.

Ishmael

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5826/dsc02219xl8.jpg

Highly sought and collected. $2000.00 for one in good condition in not unusual.

 

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[koalabear]

How did you violate their TOS?

No comment.

 

[Peregrinator]

You just love to start shit, don't ya?

The 'Best' out of the box DA .357 revolver made is the Colt Python. Smoothest action, best finish, best lock up of any of the stock revolvers. The 'Dan Wesson's' are probably a close second. Smith produced two DA's of comparable finish and action smoothness, but neither were/are available in .357.

That being said, the best DA .357 revolver is one that you can hit the target with. I always liked the Smith 19 (K-Frame), but it will shoot "loose" if you continually shoot .357 mags in it. If you shoot .38 wad cutters it's one of the most accurate, pleasing to shoot, revolvers you can pick up. There are people that can shoot Smiths and can't hit a prairie tipped on edge with a Colt, and vice versa. More than a few claim this is due to the direction of the cylinder rotation. I don't know or care.

The Smith 27 (and it's descendents) is a good pistol if you have a large hand. I never liked any of the Smith N-frame guns.

Ruger turns out a good product as well.

I've never picked up a S&W (recent manufacture) or a Ruger that did not require work on the action to keep them from feeling 'gritty.' The Smith actions are actually easier to work on than the Ruger's due to the design.

Ishmael

Why on earth did they stop producing the Python? Idiots.

Thanks. I'll check out the others. I'm unlikely to spend the price of a good used car on a collectible revolver just to shoot it on weekends.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5826/dsc02219xl8.jpg

Highly sought and collected. $2000.00 for one in good condition in not unusual.

What was that a picture of?

 

[koalabear]

Why on earth did they stop producing the Python? Idiots.

Thanks. I'll check out the others. I'm unlikely to spend the price of a good used car on a collectible revolver just to shoot it on weekends.


What was that a picture of?

Six colt pythons.

 

[Ishmael]

Why on earth did they stop producing the Python? Idiots.

Thanks. I'll check out the others. I'm unlikely to spend the price of a good used car on a collectible revolver just to shoot it on weekends.

Insurance, the cops switched to auto loaders, and there weren't enough people left that appreciated the work of art that it is.

Ishmael

 

[Bob Waters]

Interesting images (graphic injury, don't look if you're squeamish) to add to the debate on the 5.56 round that was floating around in another gun thread - can't recall which so I'm posting it here. This was the lighter 55 gr round, not the 62gr NATO

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=17111.0

Like it, don't like it, I still wouldn't want to get hit with it.

 

[Peregrinator]

Six colt pythons.

Are they yours, you bastard? Share!

Insurance, the cops switched to auto loaders, and there weren't enough people left that appreciated the work of art that it is.

Ishmael

God dammit. I always hear about stuff too late.

Interesting images (graphic injury, don't look if you're squeamish) to add to the debate on the 5.56 round that was floating around in another gun thread - can't recall which so I'm posting it here. This was the lighter 55 gr round, not the 62gr NATO

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=17111.0

Like it, don't like it, I still wouldn't want to get hit with it.

This is a fine place to post that link. And that's one motherfucker of a wound. One of the comments claims that the bullet didn't shatter the femur, the shock wave did.

There's a lot to be said for velocity, as previously noted.

As to your last sentence, I'm perfectly comfortable saying that about any projectile weapon I've ever heard of. I don't even like to get hit with spitballs, let alone any firearm on the market.

 

[Ishmael]

God dammit. I always hear about stuff too late.

If you ever held one, or shot one you probably wouldn't worry about the price all that much.

There are folks out there, like the marsupial bear, that are scarfing them up as fast as they can. The only way the price is going to go down is if Colt starts making them again.

Ishmael