Hey, gun nuts!

[remy_lebeau8]

I wasn't willing to take it apart right there in the store, but I think I'm going to buy it, just for fun, and clean it up. If nothing else, it will look pretty on the wall.

With all that silver inlay work I'd get it looked at before cleaning like ish suggested.

http://books.google.com/books?id=FTJFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The above link should take you to a google books version of the 1864 cav manual. Covers the sabre drills and such we talked about a while back.

 

[Peregrinator]

With all that silver inlay work I'd get it looked at before cleaning like ish suggested.

http://books.google.com/books?id=FTJFAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The above link should take you to a google books version of the 1864 cav manual. Covers the sabre drills and such we talked about a while back.

Oh, I will, for sure. We have a new friend who does that sort of work. This, of course, is all contingent on my being willing to spend the money. But I'm feeling that pull...

Thanks! I recently picked up a 1904 pattern US cav sabre. I was thinking of chasing you down for those drills. Now I can develop a whole new entirely useless skill set and simultaneously make my neighbors nervous.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Oh, I will, for sure. We have a new friend who does that sort of work. This, of course, is all contingent on my being willing to spend the money. But I'm feeling that pull...

Thanks! I recently picked up a 1904 pattern US cav sabre. I was thinking of chasing you down for those drills. Now I can develop a whole new entirely useless skill set and simultaneously make my neighbors nervous.

Did you get the scabbard too? My neighbor as a pair of the swords with scabbards. I guess they're rare.

I thought about learning the drill as well. Figured it would be good upper body excersise.

This weekend I'm going up north for an artillery shoot. With any luck well win in smoothbore again. Ill try to get a video or something. After the shoot I'm going to my buddys cabin with a ffew rifles and take advantage of his 40 acres

 

[thør]

After the shoot I'm going to my buddys cabin with a ffew rifles and take advantage of his 40 acres

Remember your backstop. 40 acres is only about 1/4 mile square and even a .22 shoots farther than that.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

I have a 22 revolver I want to take up north and shoot that I inhearited from my uncle. Problem is that it won't be legally mine until my grandma comes up in september to sign it over. Will I be in all sorts of shit if I get pulled over?

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Remember your backstop. 40 acres is only about 1/4 mile square and even a .22 shoots farther than that.

I know he's got a range out there. Havent seen it yet so I'm not sure how he has it set up.

 

[Peregrinator]

Did you get the scabbard too? My neighbor as a pair of the swords with scabbards. I guess they're rare.

I thought about learning the drill as well. Figured it would be good upper body excersise.

This weekend I'm going up north for an artillery shoot. With any luck well win in smoothbore again. Ill try to get a video or something. After the shoot I'm going to my buddys cabin with a ffew rifles and take advantage of his 40 acres

Nope, no scabbard. I figured this one would be more of a toy than a collector piece. I've even started polishing the blade, which I guess is a no-no in terms of value. *shrug* Probably would be decent exercise, yeah, at least for one arm. I suppose you could do the drills on both sides, and then be all ambidextrously badass.

Cool, on the artillery practice. I've only ever played with modern stuff, mortars when I was in the Guard. Fun as hell to fire them. Good luck!

 

[Peregrinator]

I have a 22 revolver I want to take up north and shoot that I inhearited from my uncle. Problem is that it won't be legally mine until my grandma comes up in september to sign it over. Will I be in all sorts of shit if I get pulled over?

Neah. It's not like you stole it or anything. People borrow guns all the time.

 

[Peregrinator]

So I bought the shotgun. Turns out it's a 16-gauge, almost certainly English:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7102_zpsd10c4051.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7103_zps6e229525.jpg

I wonder how much of a problem this little dent will be:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7098_zps55f25034.jpg

If it were a rifle or a pistol, I wouldn't even think of firing it, but a shotgun?

 

[remy_lebeau8]

So I bought the shotgun. Turns out it's a 16-gauge, almost certainly English:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7102_zpsd10c4051.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7103_zps6e229525.jpg

I wonder how much of a problem this little dent will be:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7098_zps55f25034.jpg

If it were a rifle or a pistol, I wouldn't even think of firing it, but a shotgun?

From the pictures I couldnt say yes or no. If there isn't any pitting it should be alright I would thinm. My neighbor has the coolest old shotgun I've ever seen. It was percussion that had been converted to cartridge. The firing pins were machine bolts screwed into the old vent hole.

Edit to add

I wouldn't shoot modern shells outta that thing. If you want to try and shoot, get it inspected and use cowboy rounds

 

[thør]

So I bought the shotgun. Turns out it's a 16-gauge, almost certainly English:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7102_zpsd10c4051.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7103_zps6e229525.jpg

I wonder how much of a problem this little dent will be:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Peregrinator/IMG_7098_zps55f25034.jpg

If it were a rifle or a pistol, I wouldn't even think of firing it, but a shotgun?

The crown R is an English proof mark. You should be able to identify that thing from all the marks.

 

[Peregrinator]

From the pictures I couldnt say yes or no. If there isn't any pitting it should be alright I would thinm. My neighbor has the coolest old shotgun I've ever seen. It was percussion that had been converted to cartridge. The firing pins were machine bolts screwed into the old vent hole.

Edit to add

I wouldn't shoot modern shells outta that thing. If you want to try and shoot, get it inspected and use cowboy rounds

That's pretty much what I was thinking, though it would sure be a fun trap gun.

The crown R is an English proof mark. You should be able to identify that thing from all the marks.

Thanks! I was thinking of sending the pics to G&A, or whichever mag it is that has that "So I have this old gun" feature.

 

[thør]

That's pretty much what I was thinking, though it would sure be a fun trap gun.


Thanks! I was thinking of sending the pics to G&A, or whichever mag it is that has that "So I have this old gun" feature.

I may be incorrect on the English. But the Crown R is a proof mark.

 

[Deleted member 1405174]

Mine is bigger

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7193/redneckmailboxcroppedframed1tq.jpg

That is BAD ASS!!

 

[koalabear]

http://www.shotguns.se/html/uk.html

http://www.shotguns.se/html/b_ham_marks_in_context.html

 

[thør]

That's pretty much what I was thinking, though it would sure be a fun trap gun.


Thanks! I was thinking of sending the pics to G&A, or whichever mag it is that has that "So I have this old gun" feature.

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Check this out.....I'd bet that thing isn't approved for smokeless powder

 

[remy_lebeau8]

http://***************/Doc?id=dfg2hmx7_28dvjzkhgf

Check this out.....I'd bet that thing isn't approved for smokeless powder

I wouldnt think so. That's why I suggested cowboy action loads. Pretty sure theyre pyrodex or bp

 

[Ishmael]

The crown R is an English proof mark. You should be able to identify that thing from all the marks.

The ornate trigger guard pointed towards German.

Damascus barrels perhaps?

Ishmael

 

[Peregrinator]

I may be incorrect on the English. But the Crown R is a proof mark.

I got me some more digging to do, looks like.

http://www.shotguns.se/html/uk.html

http://www.shotguns.se/html/b_ham_marks_in_context.html

Thanks, pouchbelly. Good info.

http://***************/Doc?id=dfg2hmx7_28dvjzkhgf

Check this out.....I'd bet that thing isn't approved for smokeless powder

Well, damn. It may wind up as a wall hanger after all.

I wouldnt think so. That's why I suggested cowboy action loads. Pretty sure theyre pyrodex or bp

...and more googling for me.

God damn, I love this place sometimes. Thanks, everybody!

 

[Peregrinator]

The ornate trigger guard pointed towards German.

Damascus barrels perhaps?

Ishmael

This is fun. I'd love it if it turned out to be German. It would fit with my last name.

Ish, what are your thoughts about shooting it?

 

[Ishmael]

This is fun. I'd love it if it turned out to be German. It would fit with my last name.

Ish, what are your thoughts about shooting it?

Finishing up on the details, Thor is absolutely correct. The 'crown 'big R" is the Birmingham proofing house. The mark was used from 1868 to 1925 and it is a black powder only mark.

A really competent gun smith can remove the ding in the barrel with an expansion plug.

But to be honest I wouldn't do a thing with that shotgun until I:

1.) Had thoroughly researched it as far as any collectors value and what can/cannot be done that would add to or subtract from that value.

2.) After 1 above is completed have a really good gun smith give his opinion as far as firing it.

3.) If judged to be serviceable, remove the firing pins and have a tool and die guy make duplicates to be used in service. The pins are the most likely thing to break and having the originals put away will probably serve you well later.

Ishmael

 

[Peregrinator]

Finishing up on the details, Thor is absolutely correct. The 'crown 'big R" is the Birmingham proofing house. The mark was used from 1868 to 1925 and it is a black powder only mark.

A really competent gun smith can remove the ding in the barrel with an expansion plug.

But to be honest I wouldn't do a thing with that shotgun until I:

1.) Had thoroughly researched it as far as any collectors value and what can/cannot be done that would add to or subtract from that value.

2.) After 1 above is completed have a really good gun smith give his opinion as far as firing it.

3.) If judged to be serviceable, remove the firing pins and have a tool and die guy make duplicates to be used in service. The pins are the most likely thing to break and having the originals put away will probably serve you well later.

Ishmael

Oh, cool! Cheers, Ish. I shall follow your advice. I'm not too concerned about the value, but it will be good to know. Is it possible to buy black powder loads, or am I suddenly about to start learning to handload?

 

[Ishmael]

Oh, cool! Cheers, Ish. I shall follow your advice. I'm not too concerned about the value, but it will be good to know. Is it possible to buy black powder loads, or am I suddenly about to start learning to handload?

You can learn or you can pay someone. You're lucky it's a 16 bore, coulda been a 28. *chuckle*

Ishmael

 

[thør]

Oh, cool! Cheers, Ish. I shall follow your advice. I'm not too concerned about the value, but it will be good to know. Is it possible to buy black powder loads, or am I suddenly about to start learning to handload?

You could make your own black powder!

 

[Peregrinator]

You can learn or you can pay someone. You're lucky it's a 16 bore, coulda been a 28. *chuckle*

Ishmael

Because 28 is such a pussy bore, you mean?

You could make your own black powder!

My brother used to do that in the basement.