Hey, gun nuts!

[Peregrinator]

I think that k31 may be my favorite shooter now. Much better then my mosin. Now I need to builda vietnam era ar 15

What's a K31?

 

[remy_lebeau8]

What's a K31?

Swiss rifle from ww2. Bolt action but a straight pull bolt vs the turn style bolt. Fires a 7.5mm round and the recoil isn't too bad.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Swiss rifle from ww2. Bolt action but a straight pull bolt vs the turn style bolt. Fires a 7.5mm round and the recoil isn't too bad.

What are you doing for ammo for that, and what's the cost?


I looked into one years ago, and if I recall correctly, some reloading arrangement looked doable.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

What are you doing for ammo for that, and what's the cost?


I looked into one years ago, and if I recall correctly, some reloading arrangement looked doable.

Umm as of right now the ammo I have is wolf brand. Came with the gun. I wanna say it runs about 25 bucks a box. I know it used to be hard to find. I could have gotten an arasaka real cheap a few years back, but the jap ammo was hard to come by and no one made it. Now fiocchi does

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Umm as of right now the ammo I have is wolf brand. Came with the gun. I wanna say it runs about 25 bucks a box. I know it used to be hard to find. I could have gotten an arasaka real cheap a few years back, but the jap ammo was hard to come by and no one made it. Now fiocchi does

Okay, thanks for that. I see the 31's around from time to time, and I know they are well made.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Okay, thanks for that. I see the 31's around from time to time, and I know they are well made.

They get confused with the schmidt rubin. Similar design but different cartridge. Those are the hard to find bullets I believe

 

[Wat_Tyler]

They get confused with the schmidt rubin. Similar design but different cartridge. Those are the hard to find bullets I believe

I think so.


I know a guy who sold an Arisaka without mentioning it to me. His uncle brought it home in WW2. He asked me all about it, and then posted it for sale online somewhere. Some people suck monkey bawlz.

 

[Peregrinator]

So the shotgun turns out to be Belgian made, 1862-4 sometime, with a Lefaucheux action, missing the ejector--which my friend says he could make for me, but it would cost twice the value of the gun--and the gilt is not original. He also said I "might" be able to toss a few rounds through it safely...but it looks like it's a wall hanger.

In case anyone is curious, the gunsmith in question is Dan Morgan. Some of you may have heard his name.

 

[Peregrinator]

Okay, advice and suggestions, please.

The FIL wants a handgun, a .22. He bought a nice little .22 mag revolver with a shrouded hammer, a Colt of some kind, a snubbie. He likes it, but being that he's 84 years old and has a little arthritis in his paws, he has trouble with the weight of the trigger pull, and since it's DAO, this detracts from his enjoyment of shooting it considerably.

He wants a small revolver, though he's open to an auto. I recently had the chance to handle a Colt Woodsman, and that would be perfect, I think, though, obviously, pricey as fuck.

In his own surfing around, he came across the Taurus model 91 and thought that might be about right, but in my own poking around I see that it's got a shitty trigger, heavy in double action, and the forums are fairly mixed in terms of reviews of reliability and the like. I don't want to saddle him with a mediocre gun.

Dan Morgan suggested the Browning Buck Master, but I think that's bigger than the FIL wants.

So...suggestions?

 

[koalabear]

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57781_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

 

[Peregrinator]

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57781_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Excellent suggestion. I wish there was a range around here where we could rent one and play with it, but that might be the ticket. I also thought of the PPK in .22, which I think just came out, but my PPK/S is so fucking finicky about what I feed it that I'm a little leary.

Part of the fun of all this is that whatever he winds up buying I'll eventually inherit.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

So the shotgun turns out to be Belgian made, 1862-4 sometime, with a Lefaucheux action, missing the ejector--which my friend says he could make for me, but it would cost twice the value of the gun--and the gilt is not original. He also said I "might" be able to toss a few rounds through it safely...but it looks like it's a wall hanger.

In case anyone is curious, the gunsmith in question is Dan Morgan. Some of you may have heard his name.

You said it was a break open right?

 

[remy_lebeau8]

My newest piece

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/gambit814/20130819_062931_zpsb9e7abe2.jpg

 

[contrifan32]

Okay, advice and suggestions, please.

The FIL wants a handgun, a .22. He bought a nice little .22 mag revolver with a shrouded hammer, a Colt of some kind, a snubbie. He likes it, but being that he's 84 years old and has a little arthritis in his paws, he has trouble with the weight of the trigger pull, and since it's DAO, this detracts from his enjoyment of shooting it considerably.

He wants a small revolver, though he's open to an auto. I recently had the chance to handle a Colt Woodsman, and that would be perfect, I think, though, obviously, pricey as fuck.

In his own surfing around, he came across the Taurus model 91 and thought that might be about right, but in my own poking around I see that it's got a shitty trigger, heavy in double action, and the forums are fairly mixed in terms of reviews of reliability and the like. I don't want to saddle him with a mediocre gun.

Dan Morgan suggested the Browning Buck Master, but I think that's bigger than the FIL wants.

So...suggestions?

Pereg, I have a Colt woodsman circa '65 and it is indeed a slick and very accurate hand gun. With that said it is a bitch to clean properly if you run a lot of rounds through it especially if the shooter has dexterity issues.

 

[Peregrinator]

You said it was a break open right?

Yep. Pretty standard side by side, why?

 

[Peregrinator]

My newest piece

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/gambit814/20130819_062931_zpsb9e7abe2.jpg

That should impress the neighbors.

 

[Peregrinator]

Pereg, I have a Colt woodsman circa '65 and it is indeed a slick and very accurate hand gun. With that said it is a bitch to clean properly if you run a lot of rounds through it especially if the shooter has dexterity issues.

I don't like you any more. (Translation: I'm envious.)

I'd wind up cleaning it for him anyway, but that's good to know. I see them for somewhat reasonable prices occasionally, in the $6-700 range, which he could easily afford. It might work. I also think he'd really like the PPK in .22L though, too.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Yep. Pretty standard side by side, why?

Those didn't come around until the mid 1870s I believe, unless it was converted at some point.

That should impress the neighbors.

I know right. No idea where I'm gonna put it though. Won't fit in the liquor cabinet

 

[remy_lebeau8]

I don't like you any more. (Translation: I'm envious.)

I'd wind up cleaning it for him anyway, but that's good to know. I see them for somewhat reasonable prices occasionally, in the $6-700 range, which he could easily afford. It might work. I also think he'd really like the PPK in .22L though, too.

What about a single action army style revolver? Or a ruger mk model

 

[Peregrinator]

Those didn't come around until the mid 1870s I believe, unless it was converted at some point.



I know right. No idea where I'm gonna put it though. Won't fit in the liquor cabinet

Maybe I'm using the term wrong or something, but Dan is internationally renowned specifically for side by sides. The only alteration he noticed was that the gilt was added after the gun was made.

Hang it over the door. You know, in case of snakebite. "I always keep a flask in case of snakebite. Additionally, I always keep a small snake." ~WC Fields

What about a single action army style revolver? Or a ruger mk model

I suggested the revolver, but I think he wants something small. Maybe something like a Single Six with a short barrel. He handled a couple of the Rugers and said they were too big.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Maybe I'm using the term wrong or something, but Dan is internationally renowned specifically for side by sides. The only alteration he noticed was that the gilt was added after the gun was made.

Hang it over the door. You know, in case of snakebite. "I always keep a flask in case of snakebite. Additionally, I always keep a small snake." ~WC Fields


I suggested the revolver, but I think he wants something small. Maybe something like a Single Six with a short barrel. He handled a couple of the Rugers and said they were too big.

Maybe I'm wrong but so far as I know, break opens didn't come along until the 1870s. If it were a muzzle loader the years would make more sense to me. Side by sides have been around at least sense flintlocks.

 

[Peregrinator]

Maybe I'm wrong but so far as I know, break opens didn't come along until the 1870s. If it were a muzzle loader the years would make more sense to me. Side by sides have been around at least sense flintlocks.

A little earlier. Here you go: http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2010/07/actions-break-open-action.html

 

[contrifan32]

I don't like you any more. (Translation: I'm envious.)

I'd wind up cleaning it for him anyway, but that's good to know. I see them for somewhat reasonable prices occasionally, in the $6-700 range, which he could easily afford. It might work. I also think he'd really like the PPK in .22L though, too.

I was lucky, it was passed on to me by an uncle who passed away way too young.

 

[thør]

Excellent suggestion. I wish there was a range around here where we could rent one and play with it, but that might be the ticket. I also thought of the PPK in .22, which I think just came out, but my PPK/S is so fucking finicky about what I feed it that I'm a little leary.

Part of the fun of all this is that whatever he winds up buying I'll eventually inherit.

Smith also has some snub nose revolvers in .22 or .22Mag.

 

[Peregrinator]

I was lucky, it was passed on to me by an uncle who passed away way too young.

That was lucky as far as the gun goes. Sucks about the uncle.

Smith also has some snub nose revolvers in .22 or .22Mag.

Yeah, that's what he has now, a 351 Airlight. Unfortunately, it's the "c" variant, hammerless, so it's dao and too heavy a pull for him. I think he'd like it if it were a pd and he could fire it sa. Then again, I had him try cocking the .38 and tht was even a bit much for him.