Hey, gun nuts!

[Ishmael]

Ish,

Are you pursuing the F-class competitions?

I've given it some thought, but not a goal......yet.

We have two ranges at the club, a 1K KD range and a 1.8K steel range. Once I get a decent scope mounted I'm going to use the KD range to master the scope and the varying conditions (mirage, wind, spin drift, etc.). Then move over to the steel to nail range estimation with the scope. And deal with the shift from MOA to MIL dot computations. Yeah I know, it's just a matter of plugging in a different constant. But I've been shooting MOA all my life so it's all automatic to me. At the longer ranges MIL dot makes more sense so I'm going to have to deal with it.

Right now I'm just going through the baby steps working the rifle up. It would be nice to be back in the day when the military gave me all the ammo I wanted and all the range time required. But that was then and this is now.

Back to the F-class. I suppose that eventually I'm going to have to go head to head just to keep the juices flowing. But for now it's just one step at a time.

Oh, and working up a load. I'd like to work up a load to .5 MOA (or .1 MIL ). If I can get to that point then I know that I've got a rifle that can compete, the rest is on me.

Ishmael

 

[thør]

I've given it some thought, but not a goal......yet.

We have two ranges at the club, a 1K KD range and a 1.8K steel range. Once I get a decent scope mounted I'm going to use the KD range to master the scope and the varying conditions (mirage, wind, spin drift, etc.). Then move over to the steel to nail range estimation with the scope. And deal with the shift from MOA to MIL dot computations. Yeah I know, it's just a matter of plugging in a different constant. But I've been shooting MOA all my life so it's all automatic to me. At the longer ranges MIL dot makes more sense so I'm going to have to deal with it.

Right now I'm just going through the baby steps working the rifle up. It would be nice to be back in the day when the military gave me all the ammo I wanted and all the range time required. But that was then and this is now.

Back to the F-class. I suppose that eventually I'm going to have to go head to head just to keep the juices flowing. But for now it's just one step at a time.

Oh, and working up a load. I'd like to work up a load to .5 MOA (or .1 MIL ). If I can get to that point then I know that I've got a rifle that can compete, the rest is on me.

Ishmael

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I don't have time for such things, now.

 

[Ishmael]

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I don't have time for such things, now.

And all I have is my puny little masters card.

Grats to you.

Ishmael

 

[thør]

And all I have is my puny little masters card.

Grats to you.

Ishmael

I have no idea where my Master's cards are. I still do have the Western Wildcats sweatshirt I won in Phoenix and the rifle I won it with. I recall it was for winning my class in an iron sights prone stage.

 

[Ishmael]

I have no idea where my Master's cards are. I still do have the Western Wildcats sweatshirt I won in Phoenix and the rifle I won it with. I recall it was for winning my class in an iron sights prone stage.

I still have some trophy's and such laying around.....somewhere. I never was a fan of such things. My family placed more value on them than I. I suppose that in some respects I saw/see them as an anchor holding me back from the future. I don't know if that makes any sense to you, quite frankly I don't know if it makes any sense to me, but it's how I feel about such things.

Of course being on the same team with Lones tended to lead to exasperation. I do have one thing though, I took the FL state championships in 100 yd any sights over him. Overcast day, no mirage. No one could read mirage like he could.

Ishmael

 

[thør]

I still have some trophy's and such laying around.....somewhere. I never was a fan of such things. My family placed more value on them than I. I suppose that in some respects I saw/see them as an anchor holding me back from the future. I don't know if that makes any sense to you, quite frankly I don't know if it makes any sense to me, but it's how I feel about such things.

Of course being on the same team with Lones tended to lead to exasperation. I do have one thing though, I took the FL state championships in 100 yd any sights over him. Overcast day, no mirage. No one could read mirage like he could.

Ishmael

I still have a pair of 7x50 binocs that I bought with NRA award points. No trophies. The National Record is kinda fun on the wall at work. I might have some patches, somewhere.

 

[Ishmael]

F class is fairly active in this state. 2 local clubs (including my own). 3 down south and 2 up north. The northern folks use Whittington Center. The group at my club can shoot the full spectrum. The other club is limited to 800 yds.

As I said before, I'm working this up in baby steps. I think I have the barrel/action where I want it. That leaves the scope, stock (maybe), and the trigger to go.

I'm not all that worried about the loads. Let's face it, at the ranges we're talking about milking another 1/4 MOA out of a load is the very least of the obstacles that need to be dealt with. So as I mentioned before, if I can get down to 1/2 MOA out to 300 I'll be happy. Considering that I'm almost there with no more than I've done so far, I'm already happy.

Ishmael

 

[thør]

F class is fairly active in this state. 2 local clubs (including my own). 3 down south and 2 up north. The northern folks use Whittington Center. The group at my club can shoot the full spectrum. The other club is limited to 800 yds.

As I said before, I'm working this up in baby steps. I think I have the barrel/action where I want it. That leaves the scope, stock (maybe), and the trigger to go.

I'm not all that worried about the loads. Let's face it, at the ranges we're talking about milking another 1/4 MOA out of a load is the very least of the obstacles that need to be dealt with. So as I mentioned before, if I can get down to 1/2 MOA out to 300 I'll be happy. Considering that I'm almost there with no more than I've done so far, I'm already happy.

Ishmael

About 1 MOA with my stock .308 silhouette rifle is just fine for shooting standing. I like the 190 gr HPBT for knocking down the sheep at 500m.

 

[Ishmael]

About 1 MOA with my stock .308 silhouette rifle is just fine for shooting standing. I like the 190 gr HPBT for knocking down the sheep at 500m.

For hunting I'll use something other than what I'm working on. What I'm working on is definitely not a hunting rifle.

That being said I'm looking at the Hornady 192 and 225 ELD-M offerings. I'll be loading them up with H-1000 and the primer is yet to be decided on, most likely CCI. In the end the rifle will tell me what it likes. My smith has suggested that I try the 165 gr BTSP with 4350. So that is on the menu as well.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

On the fun side. The Police NRA nationals are coming up next month and we, the club, are running the 3-gun events. We try to mix a little history with reality to make it fun as well as challenging.

Sooooooooooo, this year we have a stage based on Teddy and the Rough Riders in Cuba. The contestants have to start out on a horse (wooden) with a saber held high in hand. On the signal they have to dismount, grab a rifle and etc., etc.

Now, I don't know if I'm working that stage or not, but if I do the ready announcement is going to change. Instead of, "Is the shooter ready?" I'm going to ask, "Are you ready Teddy?"

Actually if I had my way things would get even more bizarre. We have a rail system to give the shooter a moving target. I'd mount that faux horse on the rail system and have them 'saber slash' a target between the start and dismount stage. In that no firearms would be involved at that point safety isn't an issue (unless someone falls off the damn 'horse).

Maybe next year.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

Re. the 3 gun matches. For props we got a UH1 from the Air Force. No tail, no rotors, but the cabin and cockpit. We're going to use that in an "officer down" scenario where the contestant has to drag a dummy to the 'Mercy flight' and then engage with rifle at 100+ yds. The ole cardio should be near off the charts by then.

A city bus is going to be used in a hostage scenario.

On the "Teddy" trip we're going to force them to engage with a lever action 45 LC (iron sights) for the rifle element.

Back to the 'Officer Down' scenario. The shoot house is going to have 12 target stands with 3 targets per stand. The contestant will be limited to 12 rounds loaded in their pistol. Each stand will have a 4" target, a 2" target, and a 1" target. If they engage the 4" target it will be par time, if they engage the 2" target, successfully, they'll have 3 secs deducted from their run time, if they successfully engage the 1" target they'll have 6 sec.s deducted from their time. Virginia rules.. Bottom line, they'll have only 1 shot per stand and if they run out of ammo each failure to engage will cost them 15 secs added to their run time.

The last scenario is based on Billy the Kid. Interesting in that for the rifle and shotgun the contestant is 'Billy' and for the pistol stage they have to wear Pat Garret's hat.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

The match was a great success and one hell of a lot of fun. The 'Downed Officer' stage with the UH-1 was the stage that winnowed the chaff. We set a par time of 180 secs for the stage. Fully 80% of the entrants timed out.

The top female competitor timed out on her last rifle shot. So she ended up with one failure to engage and she missed with on shot so on failure to neutralize. Still and all she did better than most of the men that never were able to drag the dummy (the downed officer) to the helicopter.

The overall winner completed the stage in 1 min. 6 sec. with a minor procedural penalty (failure to strap the downed officer (dummy) into the litter, of 5 sec. for an overall time of 1 min. 11 sec.

The "Ready Teddy" stage was a hoot too. The entrant had to start the stage with three shoots from a lever action (.45 long Colt). There was actually one guy there that had to be schooled in how to operate a lever action. Imagine, a 40 something man that never saw a western!!!

Ishmael

 

[thør]

Bacon scented gun lube.

I wonder if that's baiting?

 

[ryan8558]

Bacon scented gun lube.

I wonder if that's baiting?

don't think I'd use that in bear country

 

[Ishmael]

Bacon scented gun lube.

I wonder if that's baiting?

don't think I'd use that in bear country

Well, it beats the hell out of fox urine if you just have to have scented gun lube I suppose.

Ishmael

 

[thør]

Well, it beats the hell out of fox urine if you just have to have scented gun lube I suppose.

Ishmael

I'm sure you can get pumpkin spice scent now. Tis the season.

 

[Ishmael]

I'm sure you can get pumpkin spice scent now. Tis the season.

I suppose the "Fresh Cut Pine" doesn't come out until after Thanksgiving.

Ishmael

 

[ryan8558]

but what about the pic-a-nic basket scented lube?

 

[thør]

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[thør]

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[neci]

is this where i can find a silencer?

 

[thør]

is this where i can find a silencer?

Yeah, just like on the TV.

 

[neci]

Yeah, just like on the TV.

wait. what kind of tv?

 

[thør]

wait. what kind of tv?

The good kind.

 

[Ghostee]

Colt .38 police special serial # 407996.

Date of manufacture please?

Google it or ask any democrat they preach gun control but seem to be gun owners....strange right!