Hey, gun nuts!

[4est_4est_Gump]

Please don't derail yet another thread with this stuff.

Actually, you're the one fixated on the topic.


You could have let it pass, but you could not. You always have to be right on that subject. I hope you enjoyed your morning's reading and I cannot wait to see you bash professionals that you don't agree with.





Did did you not like the scope?


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[4est_4est_Gump]

Ish...





Believe it or not, I posted something that he had no response to, for once. You should check it out.


Fucking ~*~ PRICELESS! ~*~

The Future Regrets Thread.

 

[Peregrinator]

Actually, you're the one fixated on the topic.


You could have let it pass, but you could not. You always have to be right on that subject. I hope you enjoyed your morning's reading and I cannot wait to see you bash professionals that you don't agree with.





Did did you not like the scope?


http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/219/420/ENTERTAINED4.jpg

You come into a gun thread that's been, by and large, a pretty chill place to talk about guns, blat out a bunch of bullshit having nothing to do with guns, and then blame me for responding? Way to take responsibility for your own actions there, sunshine.

 

[Peregrinator]

Ish...





Believe it or not, I posted something that he had no response to, for once. You should check it out.


Fucking ~*~ PRICELESS! ~*~

The Future Regrets Thread.

Hey Ish! Lookit me! Lookit me!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I take responsibility.


And I'm not going to talk to you any more, so chill. You may go back to your normal desire to be alone in the spotlight. Your thread, you're the star. Go ahead and shine...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

That's okay.


I'm still not coming out for a beer, regardless.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

tee hee

 

[VaticanAssassin]

To move this in the right direction again I will insert some gunporn...


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[Peregrinator]

I have a friend who's a smith in Alaska. Today he was posting that one of the downsides of using food-grade oil as a quench is that it attracts bears. Today's visitor was a 400-lb blackie. My friend's Karelian chased it off, but he also mentioned that he keeps a Taurus Judge on his hip while in the shop, as well as a 12-ga on the workbench. His Judge is the "Raging" model, and he says he uses "hot" .454 loads. My question is, how much hotter than a standard .454 does anybody need?

 

[thør]

I have a friend who's a smith in Alaska. Today he was posting that one of the downsides of using food-grade oil as a quench is that it attracts bears. Today's visitor was a 400-lb blackie. My friend's Karelian chased it off, but he also mentioned that he keeps a Taurus Judge on his hip while in the shop, as well as a 12-ga on the workbench. His Judge is the "Raging" model, and he says he uses "hot" .454 loads. My question is, how much hotter than a standard .454 does anybody need?

As hot as you can handle for a second shot.

 

[Peregrinator]

As hot as you can handle for a second shot.

He says it kicks like a mule. I believe him.

 

[thør]

He says it kicks like a mule. I believe him.

I bet.

Caught a bear on the driveway cam this morning.

 

[Peregrinator]

I bet.

Caught a bear on the driveway cam this morning.

Did ya? What kind? I guess the brown ones mostly stay out of town?

 

[thør]

Did ya? What kind? I guess the brown ones mostly stay out of town?

Blackie.

We have the Brown ones in the 'hood, too.

 

[Peregrinator]

Blackie.

We have the Brown ones in the 'hood, too.

Do they come in, too? I need to spend more time up your way. Like, a few years.

 

[thør]

Do they come in, too? I need to spend more time up your way. Like, a few years.

The bastards will go right through the wall if they want to come in.

And yes, they come though the yard, too.

 

[Peregrinator]

The bastards will go right through the wall if they want to come in.

And yes, they come though the yard, too.

That's...actually kinda scary.

 

[thør]

That's...actually kinda scary.

Indeed.

 

[Peregrinator]

Indeed.

There's not all that many wild animals that I find genuinely frightening. Alaskan bears--all three kinds--are. Tigers, leopards, a few snakes maybe, crocodiles...I mean land animals, naturally. In the ocean, fugeddaboutit.

 

[Ishmael]

This is the start of the workup for the new rifle. Shooting at 200yds with factory ammo. Federal 150 gr. spire points. According to the box they launch at 2950 fps but that was from a 24" barrel. I'm shooting from a 26" barrel so I'm guessing (no chronograph for the initial tests) more like 3050 fps. In any event I used 3000 fps as the benchmark for the sight adjustments.

The first two were in the black. I added one MOA to get me to the four shots you see above the black. I wanted a 300 yd zero and 4" above the line of sight on the scope got me there. I added a 1/4 MOA right before I moved to the 300yd line.

At 300 yd I was shooting a 4x4 reactive steel. Saved me a hell of a walk to the target impact area. Anyway, I rang the 'bell' 9 out of 10.

The rifle is a Rem. 700 LR in 300 WM. the scope I threw on it is a mediocre Weaver 3x9. No muzzle break, no bench rest, no trigger work. I want to know the worst of it. Overall, I'm happy so far.

Bitches;

The trigger sucks. To be clear, it breaks crisply but the weight wanders around. Anywhere between 3.2 and 4 lbs. A good Timney will fix that.

The stock. It's an 'everyman's' stock, as should be expected from the factory.The drop isn't quite right and the pull is a little off. Time to go shopping.

A muzzle break is not an option on this rifle, or any magnum for that matter. The second of the first two shots I got the butt a little out of "the pocket" and got bit....hard. Damn lucky not to have been bruised

I have a box of 150 gr Hornady SP's (virtually the same bullet) that I'm going to reload in 3 rd. batches with IMR 4831 from 72 to 75 grs to see if I can get a handle on the barrel harmonics. And to repeat the above to see if the hand loads tighten things up a bit.

I'll post those results as well before I switch powder and bullets.

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Ishmael

 

[Peregrinator]

I enjoy these posts, Ish. Thanks for them. Seeing the process you go through and the things you pay attention to is like a mini tutorial in stuff I don't know yet.

 

[Ishmael]

I enjoy these posts, Ish. Thanks for them. Seeing the process you go through and the things you pay attention to is like a mini tutorial in stuff I don't know yet.

Start reloading. The $$ savings aside, it DOES make a difference. Especially if you ever decide to get a 'real' long gun.

Ishmael

 

[Peregrinator]

Start reloading. The $$ savings aside, it DOES make a difference. Especially if you ever decide to get a 'real' long gun.

Ishmael

That would be a leap in seriousness for me that I'm not ready to take yet. So far the .308 does what I need it to, makes holes in stuff where I point it. Possibly someday, but I'm stuck a few centuries earlier with the sword collection for now.

 

[Ishmael]

That would be a leap in seriousness for me that I'm not ready to take yet. So far the .308 does what I need it to, makes holes in stuff where I point it. Possibly someday, but I'm stuck a few centuries earlier with the sword collection for now.

Well, watch "Raiders of the Lost Ark" until the notion of taking a sword to a gun fight sinks in.

While 'good enough' is fine, it all depends on what the definition of 'good enough' is.

You, like me and everyone else (no matter their self-denials) aren't getting any younger. There'll come a day when you won't be able to sword fight anymore. Or play Volleyball, or so many other things that require strength, agility, speed, etc. BUT, you will still be able to shoot. Not CQB, but basic marksmenship. It's a skill, and knowledge, that will last you a lifetime. And I suggest you make the time, and it doesn't take all that much time, to learn a skill that will last you far longer than you think.

And it's uni-sex to boot.

Ishmael

 

[Peregrinator]

Well, watch "Raiders of the Lost Ark" until the notion of taking a sword to a gun fight sinks in.

While 'good enough' is fine, it all depends on what the definition of 'good enough' is.

You, like me and everyone else (no matter their self-denials) aren't getting any younger. There'll come a day when you won't be able to sword fight anymore. Or play Volleyball, or so many other things that require strength, agility, speed, etc. BUT, you will still be able to shoot. Not CQB, but basic marksmenship. It's a skill, and knowledge, that will last you a lifetime. And I suggest you make the time, and it doesn't take all that much time, to learn a skill that will last you far longer than you think.

And it's uni-sex to boot.

Ishmael

Well, I don't carry a sword for self-defense. I'm not practicing and collecting in case of zombies or home intruders, though in either case it might serve. But yeah.

And I get the appeal, believe me. I enjoy shooting a bunch. I see the zen in it, for sure. Archery, too. It's likely something that I'll stay with. My 80 yo neighbor regularly shoots 25's at trap. So much fun to shoot with him.

And yeah, Lady P does enjoy it once in a while. I almost bought her a nice 20-ga side by side just the other day. I've got her talked into learning smallsword with me...might mean a trip to Edinburgh.http://www.martinjdougherty.com/smallsword-symposium.html