Hillary Clinton is going to be the next POTUS

[L1tTleD1fferent]

face it, you are a retard

I'll face it... That this is your opinion about me, & everyone else's clear knowledge about you.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

I'll face it... That this is your opinion about me, & everyone else's clear knowledge about you.

No pumpkin, other people think you are a retard.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Those who embrace HELL-O-REEK Clintcum will PUT UP WITH ANYTHING because they STAND FOR NOTHING.

Oh, we stand for some things. Keeping Trump away from the nuclear football, just to start with. Sanders would make a better POTUS, but Clinton ain't no disaster.

 

[Ramone45]

We elected an unqualified unknown 8 years ago and the results have been quite bad. We wanted to feel good about how "progressive" we were. This time the "progressive" candidate lacks all the moral integrity we would expect from a president, yet people still somehow are willing to vote for her knowing full well she will absolutely bring her corruption into the oval office. Amazing. God help us.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

obama was a failed experiment so lets keep the party going!

the slaves need more welfare

 

[Sean Renaud]

We elected an unqualified unknown 8 years ago and the results have been quite bad. We wanted to feel good about how "progressive" we were. This time the "progressive" candidate lacks all the moral integrity we would expect from a president, yet people still somehow are willing to vote for her knowing full well she will absolutely bring her corruption into the oval office. Amazing. God help us.

No, the results have been more or less average. Nobody is pretending Hillary is good, just that Trump is worse on every level. Many of us TRIED to get Bernie in but we failed.

 

[KingOrfeo]

We elected an unqualified unknown 8 years ago and the results have been quite bad. We wanted to feel good about how "progressive" we were.

The results have been bad only insofar as Obama has not turned out to be the progressive we expected.

This time the "progressive" candidate . . .

That would be Sanders. He's pretty much out of the running. Clinton is no progressive, she's just one more neoliberal.

 

[sr71plt]

I still laugh at this worship of Sanders. He was a U.S. representative for sixteen years and has been a U.S. senator for nine. Congress is where laws are made. What glorious laws that were made were sponsored by Bernie Sanders in those twenty-five years? How effective has he been in making progressive law? What are the chances he could do it as president with the Congress we have and are likely to continue to have? Don't you mostly like him just because he hasn't done anything and no one has felt threatened by him so they haven't been shoveling dirt over him?

 

[Sean Renaud]

A Bernie Presidency wouldn't come with the congress we have. I dn't believe for a second he could have won an election against anybody not named Donald Trump. And polls be damned I'm not 100% certain he could beat Trump if Trump could be sane for twenty four consecutive hours.

 

[JackLuis]

I still laugh at this worship of Sanders. He was a U.S. representative for sixteen years and has been a U.S. senator for nine. Congress is where laws are made. What glorious laws that were made were sponsored by Bernie Sanders in those twenty-five years? How effective has he been in making progressive law? What are the chances he could do it as president with the Congress we have and are likely to continue to have? Don't you mostly like him just because he hasn't done anything and no one has felt threatened by him so they haven't been shoveling dirt over him?

Here is the list of bills sponsored by Bernie. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=400357

The Curious Myth of Hillary Clinton’s Senate Effectiveness

Hillary didn't do squat as a Senator, according to the article, so don't tell me she has been effective at much of anything but shilling for the establishment and helping Slick Willy shaft us with Nafta.

 

[sr71plt]

A Bernie Presidency wouldn't come with the congress we have. I dn't believe for a second he could have won an election against anybody not named Donald Trump. And polls be damned I'm not 100% certain he could beat Trump if Trump could be sane for twenty four consecutive hours.

Sure he would come with a Republican-controlled Congress--at least for the first term, and at 74, I don't see him having a second term. Bernie isn't a Democrat--or, at best, is a last-minute Democrat (he's a registered Independent in the Senate still--and I'll bet you he remains that after the convention). He isn't going out on the trail and help Democrats win seats in the Congress. He doesn't even know who they are. And for some reason, the electorate is just thinking of dumping everyone in Congress (but probably won't do it for their own senator and representative). They aren't giving a thought, at least now, to changing the party controlling Congress.

Congress isn't going to have any trouble ignoring Bernie--they've ignored him for twenty-five years even when he was standing in their ranks. Because of all the things people say they don't like about Hillary Clinton, she's going to be so much in Congress' face that this is probably our only hope of getting any movement by Congress.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sure he would come with a Republican-controlled Congress--at least for the first term, and at 74, I don't see him having a second term. Bernie isn't a Democrat--or, at best, is a last-minute Democrat (he's a registered Independent in the Senate still--and I'll bet you he remains that after the convention). He isn't going out on the trail and help Democrats win seats in the Congress. He doesn't even know who they are. And for some reason, the electorate is just thinking of dumping everyone in Congress (but probably won't do it for their own senator and representative). They aren't giving a thought, at least now, to changing the party controlling Congress.

Congress isn't going to have any trouble ignoring Bernie--they've ignored him for twenty-five years even when he was standing in their ranks. Because of all the things people say they don't like about Hillary Clinton, she's going to be so much in Congress' face that this is probably our only hope of getting any movement by Congress.

I highly doubt that. Bernie isn't a Democrat, he's to the left of the majority of Democrats and presidents tend to pull congressmen in their wake. He doesn't need to know who they are, his name would need to have a 'D' next to it just like theirs.

My fear with Hillary is that if the Dems don't get a huge bump in Congress the moral of the Obama presidency (for Republicans) will effectively be there is no punishment for shutting down government. Why change if there is no serious downside?

 

[sr71plt]

I highly doubt that. Bernie isn't a Democrat, he's to the left of the majority of Democrats and presidents tend to pull congressmen in their wake. He doesn't need to know who they are, his name would need to have a 'D' next to it just like theirs.

My fear with Hillary is that if the Dems don't get a huge bump in Congress the moral of the Obama presidency (for Republicans) will effectively be there is no punishment for shutting down government. Why change if there is no serious downside?

I don't follow your reasoning on Bernie (and I don't agree that presidents tend to pull congressman in their wake). Bernie has no wake. He's had twenty-five years to show us what he can do--name two post offices. You are dealing in terminal wishful thinking. Even his time as head of the Veteran's Affairs committee was highlighted by horrible service to veterans.

And there's nothing Hillary's detractors can throw at her anymore that they haven't already done and she's still there with the substantive knowledge and answers and fighting.

You're dealing in wishful thinking pie in the sky and I'm dealing with signs of hope.

I just shake my head at the naivete of any of you guys who claim to be to the left of Ted Cruz.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't follow your reasoning on Bernie (and I don't agree that presidents tend to pull congressman in their wake). Bernie has no wake. He's had twenty-five years to show us what he can do--name two post offices. You are dealing in terminal wishful thinking. Even his time as head of the Veteran's Affairs committee was highlighted by horrible service to veterans.

And there's nothing Hillary's detractors can throw at her anymore that they haven't already done and she's still there with the substantive knowledge and answers and fighting.

You're dealing in wishful thinking pie in the sky and I'm dealing with signs of hope.

I just shake my head at the naivete of any of you guys who claim to be to the left of Ted Cruz.

I think a Democrat President is going to be a net win down ticket regardless of if he put the work in. And Bernie being a step to left of most Democrats would (in the event of a win) be an enormous boost to the Democrat Party.

I don't think he would win to begin with mind you but I can't see him winning and Republicans winning at the same time. To me that looks like a both or neither scenario.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

No pumpkin, other people think you are a retard.

No. Myself & other people think. You rarely-if-ever do, making you at best a retard.

 

[patient1]

I think a Democrat President is going to be a net win down ticket regardless of if he put the work in. And Bernie being a step to left of most Democrats would (in the event of a win) be an enormous boost to the Democrat Party.

I don't think he would win to begin with mind you but I can't see him winning and Republicans winning at the same time. To me that looks like a both or neither scenario.

People split tickets all of the time. They think all members of Congress suck- except theirs.

With the unprecedented negatives of the presidential candidates, I expect there will be more ticket splitting than usual this year.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

will you retards perform a hillary circle jerk?


when you think about welfare, do you pee in your pants a little bit?

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

when you think about welfare, do you pee in your pants a little bit?

When you think about... Anything, will you be sure & let us know?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

When you think about... Anything, will you be sure & let us know?

"yes you can" if you try. you can become a human! sad little welfare retard

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

"yes you can" if you try. you can become a human! sad little welfare retard

Is this what you tell yourself when you get up in the morning? Maybe next, you can convince yourself how to post (truth for once, or continue with falsehoods) about thread topics instead of about your opinions/thoughts about the other posters.

 

[Beco]

If so, 4 more years of nothing...

It could be 4 and out....I just can't even imagine what she has in mind. Jobs, war, what?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Is this what you tell yourself when you get up in the morning? Maybe next, you can convince yourself how to post (truth for once, or continue with falsehoods) about thread topics instead of about your opinions/thoughts about the other posters.

all you care about is more welfare and other entitlements. you don't want to work. you don't want to be self supporting.

that is the problem with your kind.

that's why you are a slave.

don't deflect as you know what you are. you can't run from the truth. stop being a piece of shit. stop living in a dumpster

 

[Sean Renaud]

If so, 4 more years of nothing...

It could be 4 and out....I just can't even imagine what she has in mind. Jobs, war, what?

What is in anyway difficult to figure out about what she has in mind?

 

[sr71plt]

What is in anyway difficult to figure out about what she has in mind?

What politician (including Bernie) have you ever seen actually work on issues they gave priority to when they ran? For that matter, have you actually taken the time and effort to listen to what Hillary Clinton says she's going to do? It certainly is more substantive and realistic than any other candidate who has run this year--including Sanders--has given. And it certainly was more realistic in 2008 than what Obama promised and then didn't go so very far in producing.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What politician (including Bernie) have you ever seen actually work on issues they gave priority to when they ran? For that matter, have you actually taken the time and effort to listen to what Hillary Clinton says she's going to do? It certainly is more substantive and realistic than any other candidate who has run this year--including Sanders--has given. And it certainly was more realistic in 2008 than what Obama promised and then didn't go so very far in producing.

Obama was pretty goddamn dedicated on healthcare reform.
Obama might not have accomplished much but saying he hasn't tried to get immigration reform is dishonest.
Obama worked to end the wars and in all but the technical sense managed one. I know we still have people in Iraq but still.

I could pull up the list of promises by Obama cus there is an official list.