How liberal/conservative are you?

[satindesire]

Maybe not every single institution, but definitely your basic decent state school University of whatever.

Certainly, just like some private schools for younger kids. I went to a private school for a little while, it was pretty nice. But, yeah, your generic university/city college/two year place should certainly allow us in without charging us an arm and a leg.

 

[WriterDom]

Maybe not every single institution, but definitely your basic decent state school University of whatever.

It's free in Georgia State schools if you keep a B average. Plus 100 or 150 dollar book allowance.

Private school you just get money

Full-time students: $1,750 per semester, $1,166 per quarter

What sucks though is you have to live here for two years before you can apply for it.

I only came close to making a C once. And that was Calculus when I was working full time and took a full load. Plus I had my other math at a Jr College. Two year colleges are about like high school.

Dr. Green, I hated that class. I was one of 5 guys with 15 girls and I swear he would call on a boy, then a girl, then a boy, every day. We did a lot of shit on the board too. It was a nightmare.

 

[Keroin]

It's free in Georgia State schools if you keep a B average. Plus 100 or 150 dollar book allowance.

Private school you just get money

Full-time students: $1,750 per semester, $1,166 per quarter

What sucks though is you have to live here for two years before you can apply for it.

I only came close to making a C once. And that was Calculus when I was working full time and took a full load. Plus I had my other math at a Jr College. Two year colleges are about like high school.

Dr. Green, I hated that class. I was one of 5 guys with 15 girls and I swear he would call on a boy, then a girl, then a boy, every day. We did a lot of shit on the board too. It was a nightmare.

I was an honour student until Algebra 11. Top marks in English Lit in the entire school + failed algebra three times = clear career path.

 

[Netzach]

It's free in Georgia State schools if you keep a B average. Plus 100 or 150 dollar book allowance.

That's a pretty sweetheart deal.

The above average kids are having a miserable time affording the U. I think it's 8 grand a year for IN STATE students at this point.

Thank you Timmy. Thank you, taxpayers' league.

I'm a Pell grant product, a grant product altogether. I worked like a madwoman all summer but only PT in sessions, or I would have thrown up blood every morning. I worked harder than I've ever worked and loved every second. I can't say that my average was 4.0 or anything, but you have to realize among these ppl rhodes scholarships were normal and I hear my classmates on NPR all the time as resident eggheads du jour when they need a soundbite. I'm the average one. Well, a specialist. Art and Art History, Classics, Lit I hold my own.

I'm not sure I would have been able to swing the same school now that I went to in 92, the grant money is much tighter. I'm watching my cousin going through that. 2 grand per semester wouldn't have made much a dent in my tuition, but the schools themselves can be very active in matching. I never got jack for books, but mine were about 2-5 hundred a term, now they're up to 1000 for a lot of people.

I think ignorance about the applications and scholarship processes out there is one of the top things holding a lot of people in check - there are tricks to this that simply aren't widely understood to people who have not had college access in the family. Shit, my husband got screwed by his parents not knowing anything and they were both teachers and his HS was a well funded good one whose college advisor must have been totally useless! He got into RISD, but they didn't think they could afford it, so that was that, they never even filled out a FAFSA.

He put himself through a less expensive less prestigious but still pretty good program. RISD is like, guaranteed work in commercial art, though.

I know that I won lotto when it comes to education. I can't have had better. Some people would say I've squandered, it, I don't feel that way. I'm not saving the world, but I'm making parts of it prettier, and I am living the highly examined life if ever there was.

I just know that I'm not the only me. Someone with brains and potential who came from nowhere and nothing, and who can't have gotten through it all without some serious fiscal and supportive help. I could not have bravely soldiered into any situation on earth and forged my way by the sheer force of my own grit at all - I'm not that kind of person, and I *definitely* wasn't as a teenager. I would not have thrived at the U of M or the U of W. They're too big.

There aren't that many Alexander Hamiltons out there, I'm definitely not that. But I'm glad I was given chances.

 

[ZRT]

ZRT, you appear not to understand that Scotland has a socialist culture, though alas, until we're independent (give that 5 years), we won't have a socialist government.

The Labour movement was born in Scotland althought the current "new" Labour government has little to do with its working class roots being to busy sucking up to big corporations and other parasites. But judging by what I see on FOX or CNN the american public have little grasp of what socialism is, if they think Obama is a Socialist.

Sigh.

It was a joke, guys. A frigging joke.

 

[DVS]

Recently, this was sent to me in an email. I thought it kind of fits the topic of this thread. I wonder who would vote for this guy...liberals, concervatives, or maybe both?


I HAVE DECIDED TO BECOME A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE.
HERE IS MY PLATFORM:

(1) 'Press 1 for English' is immediately banned. English is the official language; speak it or wait at the border until you can.

(2) We will immediately go into a two year isolationist posture to straighten out the country's attitude.. NO imports, no exports. We will use the 'Wal-Mart 's policy, 'If we ain't got it, you don't need it.'

(3) When imports are allowed, there will be a 100% import tax on it.

(4) All retired military personnel will be required to man one of our many observation towers on the southern border (six month tour). They will be under strict orders not to fire on SOUTHBOUND aliens.

(5) Social security will immediately return to its original state. If you didn't put nuttin’ in, you ain't getting’ nuttin’ out. Not the president nor any other politician will be able to touch it.


(6) Welfare - Checks will be handed out on Fridays at the end of the 40-hour school week and the successful completion of urinalysis and a passing grade.

(7) Professional Athletes--Steroids. The FIRST time you check positive you're banned for life.

(8) Crime - We will adopt the Turkish method, the first time you steal, you lose your right hand. There is no more life sentences. If convicted of murder, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for your victim; gun, knife, strangulation, etc.

(9) One export will be allowed, Wheat. The world needs to eat. A bushel of wheat will be the exact price of a barrel of oil.

(10) All foreign aid using American taxpayer money will immediately cease, and the saved money will pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we'll ask the American people if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision whether it's a worthy cause.

(11) The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.

(12) The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc..

Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes.


GOD BLESS AMERICA !


Bill Cosby

 

[jockdom]

bairn = baby, small child, oyster

I am probably fucking with you on at least one, if not two, of those. Pick your poison.

And malign not the noble bagpipe. It is a fine, fine instrument of demeanor both raucous and fair, and no finer instrument of martial intent has ever been created.

I suggest Battlefield Band, by the way. Mike is a fantastic piper, and somehow manages to not dominate the songs. It's good stuff. He can't tell a joke to save his life though.

I loved the sound of massed pipes and drums! Gives me goose bumps every time.A single piper can be a bit whiney.

 

[Netzach]

Recently, this was sent to me in an email. I thought it kind of fits the topic of this thread. I wonder who would vote for this guy...liberals, concervatives, or maybe both?



I HAVE DECIDED TO BECOME A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE.
HERE IS MY PLATFORM:

(1) 'Press 1 for English' is immediately banned. English is the official language; speak it or wait at the border until you can.

(2) We will immediately go into a two year isolationist posture to straighten out the country's attitude.. NO imports, no exports. We will use the 'Wal-Mart 's policy, 'If we ain't got it, you don't need it.'

(3) When imports are allowed, there will be a 100% import tax on it.

(4) All retired military personnel will be required to man one of our many observation towers on the southern border (six month tour). They will be under strict orders not to fire on SOUTHBOUND aliens.

(5) Social security will immediately return to its original state. If you didn't put nuttin’ in, you ain't getting’ nuttin’ out. Not the president nor any other politician will be able to touch it.


(6) Welfare - Checks will be handed out on Fridays at the end of the 40-hour school week and the successful completion of urinalysis and a passing grade.

(7) Professional Athletes--Steroids. The FIRST time you check positive you're banned for life.

(8) Crime - We will adopt the Turkish method, the first time you steal, you lose your right hand. There is no more life sentences. If convicted of murder, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for your victim; gun, knife, strangulation, etc.

(9) One export will be allowed, Wheat. The world needs to eat. A bushel of wheat will be the exact price of a barrel of oil.

(10) All foreign aid using American taxpayer money will immediately cease, and the saved money will pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we'll ask the American people if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision whether it's a worthy cause.

(11) The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.

(12) The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc..

Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes.


GOD BLESS AMERICA !


Bill Cosby

To me, it's like "and I'd like a pony, and clean rivers and lakes."

The trade policies are particularly no. No way. No No No.

Wheat? Are you kidding me? Has Cosby turned into Pol Pot? Et Tu, Dr. Huxtable. *cries*

Aiee. No.

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

Recently, this was sent to me in an email. I thought it kind of fits the topic of this thread. I wonder who would vote for this guy...liberals, concervatives, or maybe both?



(10) All foreign aid using American taxpayer money will immediately cease, and the saved money will pay off the national debt and ultimately lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we'll ask the American people if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision whether it's a worthy cause.

To take only one point: US foreign aid totals less than 00.2% of our budget. Assuming that the national debt ceased to grow and no interest accumulated, applying the foreign aid budget would allow us to pay off the national debt in 160,000 years. Really something to anticipate.

In polls, most Americans think that 24% or 1/4 of the budget goes to foreign aid. In pure amount -- forget pecentages -- tiny Denmark gives more foreign aid than the USA.

It seems that -- once again -- it's all the damn things that we know for 100% certainty that just ain't so are the dangerous things.

Incidentally, all US private donations to foreign needs works out to less than $00.10 per person per day. Should we all stand and take a bow?

 

[Homburg]

Bill Cosby

Doesn't read like Bill Cosby's writing. Maybe his style has changed radically, but it doesn't sound like him.

 

[Scotsman69]

Glad to note that Homburg appreciates great music: Battlefield Band is hard to beat.

But, sweet Keroin, I hadn't realised that I'd ever made your christmas card list in the first place.

You won't be joining mine until your poll recognises that socialists exist... (looking fiercely Scots).

And, um, re kilts. They are far superior to trousers for sexual purposes. Just flip her dress up, flip my kilt up, instant connection, no fumbly zips and buttons.

Why do you think we invented the things?

 

[ZRT]

If that isn't a BS viral email, I'd be very sad.

 

[Netzach]

To take only one point: US foreign aid totals less than 00.2% of our budget. Assuming that the national debt ceased to grow and no interest accumulated, applying the foreign aid budget would allow us to pay off the national debt in 160,000 years. Really something to anticipate.

In polls, most Americans think that 24% or 1/4 of the budget goes to foreign aid. In pure amount -- forget pecentages -- tiny Denmark gives more foreign aid than the USA.

It seems that -- once again -- it's all the damn things that we know for 100% certainty that just ain't so are the dangerous things.

Incidentally, all US private donations to foreign needs works out to less than $00.10 per person per day. Should we all stand and take a bow?

Just think.

If we did anything so it sucked slightly less to live elsewhere maybe the giant influx of people we want to keep out 'cause they're scary or they're taking our God given jobs, might be staunched. Like debt forgiveness or substantial aid delivered to a populace.

They might even not think we were Satan's agents in some places as readily.

Nahhhhhh.
Long range thinking again. Marshall Plans and things like that.

 

[ZRT]

They might even not think we were Satan's agents in some places as readily.

In my experience charity doesn't always generate positive feelings.

Also, I like a regular influx of immigrants, because we need the fresh blood and people who come after opportunities.

It's not that I'm opposed to foreign aid, but if you start talking Marshall plans and the like, I believe we should get something out of it in return, direct and substantive.

 

[Keroin]

Doesn't read like Bill Cosby's writing. Maybe his style has changed radically, but it doesn't sound like him.

If that isn't a BS viral email, I'd be very sad.

No, it's not Bill Cosby. You can get the scoop here.

I use Snopes to sniff out all BS.

 

[Netzach]

In my experience charity doesn't always generate positive feelings.

Also, I like a regular influx of immigrants, because we need the fresh blood and people who come after opportunities.

It's not that I'm opposed to foreign aid, but if you start talking Marshall plans and the like, I believe we should get something out of it in return, direct and substantive.

Motivated people will never stop coming here, as evidenced by the fact that people do from all kinds of backgrounds and circumstances, not only refugees.

I'm simply saying that a "gee, we hate all these immigrants" and a "seal the borders and don't give the bastards a thing, us first" mentality are maybe not that compatible if you actually think ahead a step.

Aid isn't charity. It's investment. Smart ones generally pay off. It's not fluffy bunnies. God, everything thinks I'm about fluffy bunnies.

 

[ZRT]

Aid isn't charity. It's investment. Smart ones generally pay off. It's not fluffy bunnies. God, everything thinks I'm about fluffy bunnies.

Probably because you look so happy and lovey in your avatar pics.

As for aid being investment, it can be if carefully monitored. More often it's simply padding somebody's Swiss bank account. Or wherever the hot spot money dump is these days. As with most things we shower money on, the oversight is pretty worthless.

 

[Netzach]

As with most things we shower money on, the oversight is pretty worthless.

Ding ding ding.

Oh, man I have this old photo from college with this bunny baby doll thing which I thought would come out normal but came out all Diamanda Galas. This was back in the days of killing my lungs printing paper photos. I wish it was digital.

 

[Netzach]

No, it's not Bill Cosby. You can get the scoop here.

I use Snopes to sniff out all BS.

I had hoped not.

Dennis Leary even sounds less assholey these days.

 

[Homburg]

Glad to note that Homburg appreciates great music: Battlefield Band is hard to beat.

Very much so. One of the deans of my alma mater LOVES Battlefield Band, so he brought thm in for our music program multiple time. I've seen them live 3-4 times now, and it has always been entirely worth going to.

And, um, re kilts. They are far superior to trousers for sexual purposes. Just flip her dress up, flip my kilt up, instant connection, no fumbly zips and buttons.

Why do you think we invented the things?

As an American of Scottish descent (Scottishs surname, family hailing from the mountains of North Carolina, what has more people of Scottish descent there than even in Scotland), I can truly say that it is because sheep have excellent hearing, and a healthy fear of zippers.

(I had to, sorry )

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Motivated people will never stop coming here, as evidenced by the fact that people do from all kinds of backgrounds and circumstances, not only refugees.

Dude, keep sending doctors from India. I've been dealing with a fair number of first and second generation Indian immigrants lately in the medical field. Wow, brilliant cats. Feel free to send us your doctors, India.

 

[jockdom]

Very much so. One of the deans of my alma mater LOVES Battlefield Band, so he brought thm in for our music program multiple time. I've seen them live 3-4 times now, and it has always been entirely worth going to.



As an American of Scottish descent (Scottishs surname, family hailing from the mountains of North Carolina, what has more people of Scottish descent there than even in Scotland), I can truly say that it is because sheep have excellent hearing, and a healthy fear of zippers.

(I had to, sorry )

--



Dude, keep sending doctors from India. I've been dealing with a fair number of first and second generation Indian immigrants lately in the medical field. Wow, brilliant cats. Feel free to send us your doctors, India.

That reminds me of the stort of John Ross, Gaelic speaking, chief of the Cherokee. Fascinating story.

 

[Scotsman69]

Well Homburg, you made me laugh, despite your hasty and awful typing.

Sheep are unattractive. We have lots of delicious women here... now, I just wish I could find one....

 

[Homburg]

That reminds me of the stort of John Ross, Gaelic speaking, chief of the Cherokee. Fascinating story.

I read about that years and years ago. It's a story I would do well to read again.

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Well Homburg, you made me laugh, despite your hasty and awful typing.

Sheep are unattractive. We have lots of delicious women here... now, I just wish I could find one....

My typing does suck, yeah. Probably the thick-ass fingers I inherited from my very Scottish-looking Grandfather what also gave me the Scottish surname.

When I was in Scotland, there were surprisingly few sheep around. Very few women too. Fuck-all large amount of airplanes though.

(My one visit to Scotland was a 2-hour emergency lay-over on an airstrip. Pissed me off, it did.)

 

[jockdom]

I read about that years and years ago. It's a story I would do well to read again.

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My typing does suck, yeah. Probably the thick-ass fingers I inherited from my very Scottish-looking Grandfather what also gave me the Scottish surname.

When I was in Scotland, there were surprisingly few sheep around. Very few women too. Fuck-all large amount of airplanes though.

[COLOR="Silver"](My one visit to Scotland was a 2-hour emergency lay-over on an airstrip. Pissed me off, it did.)[/COLOR]

Just like the King on the way to Germany.

 

[Scotsman69]

laughing.... precisely my thought Jock!

BTW Homburg, the Batties took their name from the area of Glasgow where the original band members met as students at Strathclyde University. I know, I sold Brian his first concertina when we did our teacher training together.