How to Enslave Women

[Marquis]

Well, you asked for attention, why not give it? I mean, c'mon, man, that's a lot of writing. You probably wanted someone to read it.

I am constantly misunderstood.

I enjoy attention as much as the next person, but truly I enjoy, as an intellectual and an academic, to have sane discussions on topics that I find interesting, this being one of them. I feel like I got plenty of attention here, but I also got cheated out of any intelligent discussion. Just a few

"Yeah, that's aight"

and lots of

"You're a psycho and we hate you."

Sometimes the pain inflicted by other people is meant to be a workout too. For instance, opening yourself up to intellectual or emotional analysis, if you're choosing to do so, there's probably a question buried in there somewhere you don't quite know how to ask or articulate. Sometimes just going through the process to get to the right question is what counts.

If you're as emotionally sensitive as you claim to be, which I believe, I'd say the trick is increasing your tolerance for emotional weightbearing. And it's not done necessarily by being strong, it's done by being vulnerable, so you're going the right way with getting pelted in this thread.

Again, you may be showing some astuteness here. Every psychologist I've interacted with has indicated that I have pathological difficulty depending on others and asking for help.

As far as being vulnerable though, I think I release a lot of information about myself that can be viewed in a negative light. I'm not a perfect person, but I'm not ashamed of who I am at all.

I think that's different from really making myself vulnerable though, since none of you can really hurt me. I'm often told I have trouble being vulnerable by people I am close to but it always seems that they are saying this right when they are about to fuck me over.

 

[Recidiva]

We are all in FL, we should have a roundtable discussion.
:nods:

Well, Marquis, my husband and I can cook, how about you? You can bring chips and dip if not. 'Cause we luxey.

 

[Batch]

and someone needs to cook breakfast, too.

I'm hungry.

 

[bg23]

An Appreciation for a Master

You are magnificent, Marquis
Perhaps a singular sociopathy
Perhaps not....just a snot....
But you put us through the paces beautifully.

I curtsy to you in my way...
But then hold sway.
You are a POWER and a
Lovely FLOWER in Sin City.



I don't ever wish to forget you
Nor meet you...

you were on crack when you wrote this, weren't you?

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

When I read your opening post, Marquis, I see a man who uses sex as a means of covering up some sort of personal pain (or anxiety, or fear of inadequacy, or perhaps low self-esteem etc etc), not a person who is simply enjoying himself.

 

[morewickedfun]

you were on crack when you wrote this, weren't you?

Shes just insane.

 

[Marquis]

Well, Marquis, my husband and I can cook, how about you? You can bring chips and dip if not. 'Cause we luxey.

You're in Florida?

This would be so interesting. Count me in, I will bring an appetizer and a dessert, or maybe a bottle of wine?

 

[luxey313]

Well, Marquis, my husband and I can cook, how about you? You can bring chips and dip if not. 'Cause we luxey.

I make mean huevos racheros.
As well skirt steak, chicken parm, and great cocktails.
I am good at slanging zi booze.

Ya'll don't me.. you lie.

 

[luxey313]

You're in Florida?

This would be so interesting. Count me in, I will bring an appetizer and a dessert, or maybe a bottle of wine?

Can you come pick me up? Ride together, jam out, chief...

 

[poppy1963]

you were on crack when you wrote this, weren't you?

Iced green tea...I wrote it on the moment...but you are young and have your own machinations. hee hee...go conquer the fucking world, bg...you, two have the characteristics of a Master...I just find Marquis...more handsome.

 

[Marquis]

When I read your opening post, Marquis, I see a man who uses sex as a means of covering up some sort of personal pain (or anxiety, or fear of inadequacy, or perhaps low self-esteem etc etc), not a person who is simply enjoying himself.

I do worry sometimes if there may be some of that going on, but believe me, I'm enjoying myself.

 

[Recidiva]

I am constantly misunderstood.

I enjoy attention as much as the next person, but truly I enjoy, as an intellectual and an academic, to have sane discussions on topics that I find interesting, this being one of them. I feel like I got plenty of attention here, but I also got cheated out of any intelligent discussion. Just a few

"Yeah, that's aight"

and lots of

"You're a psycho and we hate you."



Again, you may be showing some astuteness here. Every psychologist I've interacted with has indicated that I have pathological difficulty depending on others and asking for help.

As far as being vulnerable though, I think I release a lot of information about myself that can be viewed in a negative light. I'm not a perfect person, but I'm not ashamed of who I am at all.

I think that's different from really making myself vulnerable though, since none of you can really hurt me. I'm often told I have trouble being vulnerable by people I am close to but it always seems that they are saying this right when they are about to fuck me over.

Well, first, everyone's constantly misunderstood.

Vulnerability isn't the same for everyone. So I can't tell you what it is for you. But if we're going to use the weightlifting pain metaphor, it means that the next time you feel reflexively like covering something up, that's at least an emotional landmark. It's tough with a lifetime of reflexively covering true thoughts up to recognize the reflex, where it came from, or the source. That's the hard part. Also realizing that by addressing it, it's going to change constantly. So it won't be the same forever.

Rather like going to a gym where you realize everyone else is buff and you're the one setting the weight to one pound and straining...over time, though, you can lift more than a pound of emotional weight and you realize a lot of those buff folks were faking it just like you used to. Also helps build compassion.

 

[Recidiva]

You're in Florida?

This would be so interesting. Count me in, I will bring an appetizer and a dessert, or maybe a bottle of wine?

Yup, in Orlando.

 

[Recidiva]

I make mean huevos racheros.
As well skirt steak, chicken parm, and great cocktails.
I am good at slanging zi booze.

Ya'll don't me.. you lie.

You're in charge of the bar then.

"I am constantly misunderstood"

 

[Marquis]

Can you come pick me up? Ride together, jam out, chief...

Fo sho.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I do worry sometimes if there may be some of that going on, but believe me, I'm enjoying myself.

Oh, I believe you enjoy yourself. I'm just saying it looks like there is a little cover up going on. I speak from personal experience on that.

 

[fallenupright]

I've read through the post and some of the replies. First of all, to people who is suggesting he is a sociopath... From my perspective (and I'm no expert, though I am a Criminology major) though Marquis does show some anti-social tendencies... sociopath? God, no. He's intelligent and manipulative, for sure. He also appears to take an amoral view of his own actions. I don't see him claiming a universal norm unto himself - it's his life, he doesn't say everyone should live that way because it is the best way. It works for him. It's a brutally honest post, and for the most part... sociopaths do not go for the brutal honesty. He also seems to be well educated in the BDSM lifestyle - SAFE, Sane and Consensual. Sociopaths tend to display a disregard for others safety. I could go on, but the point is... even though he makes you uncomfortable... that's no reason to start throwing around labels like that. I'm not an expert by any means, and I assume... neither is anyone else here. Some knowledge doesn't qualify you to just label someone. Maybe he is a sociopath.... he'd need to see a doctor to be sure. Not visit an online forum.

In any case, that aside... the reason for my reply is that the post hit a chord in me. Eerily I see a lot of my boyfriend in Marquis' post. It kinda freaked me out until I realized that my boyfriend and I are equals in the relationship. There is no slave and master... it's not supposed to be about control, and in the past... it has been, despite either of our wishes. I am not a slave, and he is not my master... Nor the other way around. However, his view that all females are manipulative and trying to get control of men has led to power struggles when I try and do anything "my way". King of compromise, but only when I lose most. Perhaps I'll copy and paste this post, send it to him in an email. Maybe he can learn something (and hopefully it is that something that I intend, and not that he should follow down Marquis' path).

Anyways, this thread has raised a lot of negativity and some controversy. As it should, but people should argue against points and not the person. Argumentum ad Hominem is an argumentative fallacy! If you do not agree with someone, don't attack them, attack ideas.

 

[luxey313]

You're in charge of the bar then.

"I am constantly misunderstood"

Yea!
I getting you all crunked.

I think this would be a fun little get-together.
I say it should happen.

 

[poppy1963]

Shes just insane.

At least I'm wise enough to enjoy the ride of it! hee hee!

 

[Recidiva]

Argumentum ad Hominem is an argumentative fallacy! If you do not agree with someone, don't attack them, attack ideas.

What fun is that?

 

[morewickedfun]

At least I'm wise enought to enjoy the ride of it! hee hee!

Wise? hmmm i think that if you were wise you'd get help to better yourself poppy.

 

[fallenupright]

What fun is that?

Well it requires a little more work and thought... but I think the result is that you have a more rewarding argument. (In other words, it takes longer, but it's more fun.) And trust me, I'm all about the arguing... Pre-law for a reason.

 

[Recidiva]

Yea!
I getting you all crunked.

I think this would be a fun little get-together.
I say it should happen.

Sounds like a blast. I haven't counted my condiments, but the kitchen works fine.

 

[Recidiva]

Well it requires a little more work and thought... but I think the result is that you have a more rewarding argument. (In other words, it takes longer, but it's more fun.) And trust me, I'm all about the arguing... Pre-law for a reason.

Yes, but that's a court room. This is a forum. The reason why people can safely come here is that neither the input nor the response have any weight, really.

So you can pick and choose the weightless and assign value.

The number of times people have accused me of being maniacally upset when I'm giggling is...uncountable.

 

[poppy1963]

Wise? hmmm i think that if you were wise you'd get help to better yourself poppy.

What would make me better then, MWF? Let's not derail this thread. Tell me elsewhere or let it go. I ask purely out of curiosity as to the pomposity you demonstrate by making such a statement. LOL! What do you know of me...really?