I hope everyone is feeling okay......

[HisArpy]

I don't have much faith in flu shots. I got the covid-19 shot when it was first introduced but haven't gone back for boosters. In the last 3 years I've been sick once. I think a healthy immune system is far more effective.

I get my flu shot every year. I cannot be off work because I'm sick and the flu shot has a long record (personal and through data) of being very effective even if the pharma guys guess wrong on which strain will be active this year.

I didn't get the vax and worked through the lockdown because I was deemed to be essential. I'm still here despite having the deal with the public daily. A testament to the efficacy of being constitutionally/immune system superior to the average run of the mill lemming/follower/chicken little/coward.

Having lived thorugh all of that and at this point, listening the the shit-for-brains Left start the racket about Covid and the vax all over again, I can only say...

I will not comply.

 

[easyoff]

It was never about protecting us, it was all about controlling us

 

[Typo Fu Master]

I get my flu shot every year. I cannot be off work because I'm sick and the flu shot has a long record (personal and through data) of being very effective even if the pharma guys guess wrong on which strain will be active this year.

I didn't get the vax and worked through the lockdown because I was deemed to be essential. I'm still here despite having the deal with the public daily. A testament to the efficacy of being constitutionally/immune system superior to the average run of the mill lemming/follower/chicken little/coward.

Having lived thorugh all of that and at this point, listening the the shit-for-brains Left start the racket about Covid and the vax all over again, I can only say...

I will not comply.

I was also considered essential. A workplace policy was issued. Social distancing and mandatory mask wearing. Some people didn't follow it and management didn't enforce it. I was surrounded by people with noses poking out because "it was too hard to breathe with it on."

The first time I got covid, it knocked me on my ass for a week. The vaccination gave me another 3 days of lesser symptoms. I might have caught it last year but it felt like any other flu I've had so I'm not too concerned about getting any more boosters. YMMV.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The key take from this comment is that someone who seemingly thinks there should be little or no gun control regardless of the serious consequences, and thinks the government mustn’t impinge on that freedom no matter what, also thinks it’s his place to tell a woman what to do with her body, and force her to give birth…
It was never about complete freedom. Was it

Who are you talking about?

 

[MiaBabe23]

Who are you talking about?

I was talking about you - I gather you support Dobbs and the resulting changes?

 

[MiaBabe23]

Nothing like repeating the propaganda lie...

Shall we just repeat that meaningless comment every time you say anything?

 

[HisArpy]

Shall we just repeat that meaningless comment every time you say anything?

Nothing like repeating the propaganda lie...

 

[TastySuckToy]

I was talking about you - I gather you support Dobbs and the resulting changes?

My position has always been that a woman can terminate a pregnancy at any time for any reason.

With regards to Dobbs, I absolutely do agree with it, because I don't think government should have its nose in the issue whatsoever. So now the Federal government moved away from it which is the first step. Now the challenge is for lower level governments to get their nose out of it as well.

 

[MiaBabe23]

My position has always been that a woman can terminate a pregnancy at any time for any reason.

With regards to Dobbs, I absolutely do agree with it, because I don't think government should have its nose in the issue whatsoever. So now the Federal government moved away from it which is the first step. Now the challenge is for lower level governments to get their nose out of it as well.

Okay, I assumed incorrectly - more nuanced than your earlier comment suggested
Though experience is showing we can’t wait for states to get around to doing that

 

[MiaBabe23]

Nothing like repeating the propaganda lie...

 

[TastySuckToy]

Okay, I assumed incorrectly - more nuanced than your earlier comment suggested
Though experience is showing we can’t wait for states to get around to doing that

The end goal is get the government, at all levels, out of the issue period. Because as your example of Dobbs irrefuteably shows, when people think the government should have the authority over the issue at all, you get flip flop results.

Even if the government at the time is ruling in a way women like, it's still a dangerous concession that the government should have the final authority over women's bodies in the first place. That's my biggest objection. The government shouldn't have authority over anyone's body, period. If anyone argues that the government 'gives' women authority over their body, they are literally arguing the government should have the authority to do the opposite as well.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Wat was considered to be Essential Personnel and motored right on through the whole farcical fiasco in his (at the time) septic work environment relying only on the tough-as-nails immune system that Allah blessed him with.


Kinda fucks with Teh Narrative, now don't it???

 

[MiaBabe23]

But a national entitlement wouldn’t be doing that by saying that states, insurance companies, etc don’t have the right to deny that type of medical care - it would stop states and others from interfering with women’s health and decisions
You might prefer that the wording be something like states don’t have the right to stop it, rather than guaranteeing a positive right
But that would then open women, doctors etc up to discrimination in other ways eg incentivizing doctors who persuade a woman not to have an abortion
I think your approach is reliant on assuming states aren’t going to act in a fundamentally unreasonable way, but Texas etc are showing otherwise

 

[SevMax2]

I did the COVID vaccine, both doses, and exactly one booster. Never went back for more. That was enough for me. I still haven't gotten COVID.

 

[TastySuckToy]

I think your approach is reliant on assuming states aren’t going to act in a fundamentally unreasonable way, but Texas etc are showing otherwise

My approach is reliant on the idea government is pretty much incompetent, tyrannical and mostly useless, hence why I favour as small and limited power government as possible.

The fact you and I are here discussing government's involvement in something as private as a woman carrying a fetus is proof just how grotesquely far government overreach has gotten.

 

[MiaBabe23]

My approach is reliant on the idea government is pretty much incompetent, tyrannical and mostly useless, hence why I favour as small and limited power government as possible.

The fact you and I are here discussing government's involvement in something as private as a woman carrying a fetus is proof just how grotesquely far government overreach has gotten.

Sometimes it’s necessary for federal government to protect citizens - for example, from hostile states abroad, from the consequences of natural disasters, from corrupt businesses, and from grotesque state decisions such as outlawing abortion
Overreach was when a fundamentally unqualified president was allowed by a sycophantic senate to disregard convention and pack scotus with justices lacking in integrity and holding extreme views

 

[ChloeTzang]

I was a wild one, I didn't follow the arrows in grocery stores that were put there to protect us

The horror!!!!! The terror you must have inspired in those poor sheep!

 

[Bn2f]

Good luck and all the best....

Well thank you. I sincerely appreciate your well wishes, but also know that they're not reciprocated on my part.
I've no patience for idiots and wish that a triage system was in place where the unvaccinated received minimal to no care and that you stay consistent to your disdain for modern medicine and not put any additional stress on the system by finding a nice shady tree to sit under if you ever become ill.

 

[Rightguide]

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I took a flu shot this year but that's all, and much to the chagrin of more than a few here, I think I'll be fine.

 

[Rightguide]

Sometimes it’s necessary for federal government to protect citizens - for example, from hostile states abroad, from the consequences of natural disasters, from corrupt businesses, and from grotesque state decisions such as outlawing abortion
Overreach was when a fundamentally unqualified president was allowed by a sycophantic senate to disregard convention and pack scotus with justices lacking in integrity and holding extreme views

Learn to take care of yourself nobody on earth cares more than you do about your welfare.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I get my flu shot every year. I cannot be off work because I'm sick and the flu shot has a long record (personal and through data) of being very effective even if the pharma guys guess wrong on which strain will be active this year.

I didn't get the vax and worked through the lockdown because I was deemed to be essential. I'm still here despite having the deal with the public daily. A testament to the efficacy of being constitutionally/immune system superior to the average run of the mill lemming/follower/chicken little/coward.

Having lived thorugh all of that and at this point, listening the the shit-for-brains Left start the racket about Covid and the vax all over again, I can only say...

I will not comply.

But now you're a gimpy retard who can't even do a push-up.

Sucks to be you, timtard.

 

[TastySuckToy]

I've no patience for idiots and wish that a triage system was in place where the unvaccinated received minimal to no care

Do those individuals them get exempted from paying into the collectice system via taxes?

You can't deny them services while at the same time making them pay for them.

 

[Bn2f]

Do those individuals them get exempted from paying into the collectice system via taxes?

You can't deny them services while at the same time making them pay for them.

I expressed my own personal desires on how our healthcare systems should deal with unvaccinated idiots - it is neither reasonable nor considered humane, despite me finding it karmicly fitting.

And yes, it's quite charming to be told by a conservative about individual rights being tied to taxation without representation.

 

[TastySuckToy]

I expressed my own personal desires on how our healthcare systems should deal with unvaccinated idiots - it is neither reasonable nor considered humane, despite me finding it karmicly fitting.

Neither reasonable nor humane. Say no more, you being a leftist is proven beyond doubt.

 

[Bn2f]

Neither reasonable nor humane. Say no more, you being a leftist is proven beyond doubt.

What did I just say? Sometimes I give you too much credit in comprehension. I will purposely water down my posts to you going forward.