I know I will regret this..................

[FurryFury]

Some shops actually remove the thorns before delivery. Best check to be sure yours come as nature intended. I assume that's what you had in mind for your behind?

Well, yes, that is one thing I have in mind for my behind.

I made sure they do have thorns on them.

I also found that the rose scent which I adore can be enjoyed when I pluck a single satin petal off and crush it beneath my fingers. Otherwise the beautiful blooms seem scentless.

Fury

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Spanked with red roses...*sigh*

Oh you little minx!

Tell me all about it. I want to know everything.

I'm a whimp thought no thorns for me but the idea still excites me to no end.

Yes, I think it can, but it's not as much fun for me to think about if it doesn't include SEX!!! I want SEX!!! Now!!! Soon at least!!!

Luckily I'm off to a honeymoon cottage this afternoon for SEX!!!

I have a dozen roses too, you know why? To see what getting spanked will them will be like! If he will agree to spank me with them!

*giggles*

Oh I have ideas for this night and many more for SEX!!!

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

Spanked with red roses...*sigh*

Oh you little minx!

Tell me all about it. I want to know everything.

I'm a whimp thought no thorns for me but the idea still excites me to no end.

Actually I got pink roses, they had tighter blooms! I liked they beauty of them better. The red roses were a little worn looking. I am taking twisters btw. LOL! My darling may well refuse or do it in such a blah matter no sticks occur but you never know. It pays to be prepared!

*nods a lot*

Fury

 

[alice_underneath]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/MadamaMiniTopic.jpg

Can Ds relationships exist without sex ? Respectfully your thoughts please.......bows ​

MadamaMiniTopic, welcome to the Board.

This is a very interesting question, and I have been thinking about it carefully for several hours before responding.

First, let me say that I can not imagine submitting to a woman in the D/s sense, even in a sex-free D/s relationship. I don't know why, but I just don't think I could do that.

So, from my perspective, a D/s relationship involves a guy as the Dom and me as the sub.

I don't have any D/s experience, so this response may appear quite foolish. But what I imagine is this.

A D/s relationship involves an extraordinary amount of communication, trust, and emotional intimacy.

For me, personally, I imagine that this level of emotional intimacy would be naturally followed by a desire for physical intimacy as well.

Therefore, even if the D/s relationship had been established with the absence of sexual contact as a prerequisite, I imagine that it would become intensely frustrating for someone like me. Fulfilling in one way, but excruciatingly painful in another.

I could be wrong, of course. And perhaps a Dom, or a different type of submissive, wouldn't see it that way. But that's what I imagine.

Alice

 

[PathFinder17]

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Can Ds relationships exist without sex ? Respectfully your thoughts please.......bows ​

I believe the answer is yes and no, for me at least. D/s for me is not driven by my sexual needs, it's about my need to direct, guide, nuture and develop someone, and to provide the environment that allows the freedom to achieve their desires and to grow. I tend to see sex in a D/s relationship as I might any kink you care to choose, likening this question to can you have a D/s relationship without bondage, spanking, <insert choice of knink here>.

So, that's the no part. In my view sex is not a necessary part of a D/s relationship, it's just another aspect that can enhance it (or cause strain dependent upon the needs of the people involved).

 

[FurryFury]

I believe the answer is yes and no, for me at least. D/s for me is not driven by my sexual needs, it's about my need to direct, guide, nuture and develop someone, and to provide the environment that allows the freedom to achieve their desires and to grow. I tend to see sex in a D/s relationship as I might any kink you care to choose, likening this question to can you have a D/s relationship without bondage, spanking, <insert choice of knink here>.

So, that's the no part. In my view sex is not a necessary part of a D/s relationship, it's just another aspect that can enhance it (or cause strain dependent upon the needs of hte people involved).

Hi Pathfinder!

I like that, your words are pretty intriguing. I've been thinking about putting in a personal for a BDSM mentor lately. What you wrote resonated along those lines.

That's hot to me.

Fury

 

[alice_underneath]

Pathfinder - Welcome to the Board.

MadamaMiniTopic - Would you please clarify what you mean by "sex" in your query? I took the word "sex" (in this context) as a quick reference to sexual contact of any kind - i.e., everything from light kisses to full penetration - including virtual, phone, or 3-D versions of the same. Is that what you had in mind, or something else?

Alice

 

[alice_underneath]

Hi Pathfinder!

I like that, your words are preety intriguing. I've been thinking about putting in a personal for a BDSM mentor lately. What you wrote resonated along those lines.

That's hot to me.

Fury

Fury, this response made me smile so much!

He carefully described his own view of dominance as direction & guidance, expressed in a way that is not necessarily sexual, and your immediate response was to say: That's hot.

Do you see any irony here?

I do! But I also appreciate your response very much - because I think you just endorsed the theory I put forth in my initial post on this subject.

Alice

 

[FurryFury]

I agree with you Alice!

See you all later!

Place nice!

*winks*

gtg

Fury

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Madama Mini Topic 1

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/MadamaMiniTopic.jpg

Pathfinder - Welcome to the Board.

Alice

Ohhh Miss Alicesan you do me great honor and are so gracious to welcome Pathfindersan. Its good all feel welcome and comfortable here.
~bows~

Irrasshaimase Pathfinder ​

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Madama Mini Topic 1

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/MadamaMiniTopic.jpg
​

MadamaMiniTopic - Would you please clarify what you mean by "sex" in your query? I took the word "sex" (in this context) as a quick reference to sexual contact of any kind - i.e., everything from light kisses to full penetration - including virtual, phone, or 3-D versions of the same. Is that what you had in mind, or something else?

Alice

Konnichiwa Miss Alicesan !!!

Domo arigato gozaimasu, yes your interpretation of sex is correct. Encompassing all you have noted. It is said that in well matched and focused Ds relationships that the exchange on purely an emotional and cognitive levels is where the real fulfillment exists. That in a submissives orientation to know her Dom/me and serve to almost preempt his desires in advance and the Dominants ability to free her from distractions by taking on the responsibility of her education, comfort and well being that a heightened sense of even the most simple gestures takes on a life of its own. As an adjunct to the original question I also ask this. If a Dominant and a submissive are committed/collared etc and one becomes disabled for example and sex was no longer a strength of exchange would that void the relationship more strongly orientated to sexuality ? Or is there more ? ​

 

[alice_underneath]

Konnichiwa Miss Alicesan !!!

Domo arigato gozaimasu, yes your interpretation of sex is correct. Encompassing all you have noted. It is said that in well matched and focused Ds relationships that the exchange on purely an emotional and cognitive levels is where the real fulfillment exists.

To me, physical intimacy is not fulfilling without emotional intimacy. (That's just my personal perspective, not a judgmental remark.)

And the more intense the emotional intimacy, the more powerful the physical response - even to something as simple as a light kiss.

I don't know how you separate these two concepts, to tell you the truth. The physical is just a natural reflection of, or reaction to, the emotional state.

That in a submissives orientation to know her Dom/me and serve to almost preempt his desires in advance and the Dominants ability to free her from distractions by taking on the responsibility of her education, comfort and well being that a heightened sense of even the most simple gestures takes on a life of its own.

Now you are passing outside the realm of my personal experience. Perhaps if you give me tangible, non-sexual examples of the Dom's "desires" being served in this context it would help.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Welcome from Madama Mini Topic ~ bows ~

Yes, I think it can, but it's not as much fun for me to think about if it doesn't include SEX!!! I want SEX!!! Now!!! Soon at least!!!

Luckily I'm off to a honeymoon cottage this afternoon for SEX!!!

I have a dozen roses too, you know why? To see what getting spanked will them will be like! If he will agree to spank me with them!

*giggles*

Oh I have ideas for this night and many more for SEX!!!

Fury

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/MadamaMiniTopic.jpg


Irrasshaimase Furry Furysan

Hope you have much joy and SEX with loved one at Honeymoon Cottage.
~ bows~​

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Welcome from Madama Mini Topic ~ bows ~

Some shops actually remove the thorns before delivery. Best check to be sure yours come as nature intended. I assume that's what you had in mind for your behind?

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/rebecca000/MadamaMiniTopic.jpg

Irrasshaimase DVSsan
~ bows ~ ​

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Welcome from Madama Mini Topic ~ bows ~

Irrasshaimase Blushing Bottomsan

~ bows ~ ​

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Hi Pathfinder!

I like that, your words are pretty intriguing. I've been thinking about putting in a personal for a BDSM mentor lately. What you wrote resonated along those lines.

That's hot to me.

Fury

Hey Miss Furry

Mentors are a brilliant idea and reality for some. My current Mentor is Lady Kouka . I have spoken about her here on the BB briefly. She is a Domme of 20 plus years experience from a Ds Lifestyle perspective and woman of both formidable charm and intelligence. We don't alway see eye to eye on all things , occasionally I struggle and challenge her. In the longer term it has always turned out she was in fact correct. I sit and contemplate my own ignorance at times. That reflection comes from me not her. My well being in all ways both related to and unrelated to Ds or BDSM are of a manifest concern to her. I will ask her respectfully to consider perhaps a post on this thread in regards to Mentorship. Often a first hand appreciation gives a better 'view' to the potential of Mentor relationships as opposed to seeking the criteria from general reading alone.

Ohh in regards to Pathfinder17' s comments I would hazard a guess he speaks from a Ds Lifestyle perspective with a healthy respect for BDSM and kink thrown in. He is most welcome to correct me if I have been inaccurate in my assessment.

Kind regards and hugs

@}-}rebecca----

 

[alice_underneath]

If a Dominant and a submissive are committed/collared etc and one becomes disabled for example and sex was no longer a strength of exchange would that void the relationship more strongly orientated to sexuality ? Or is there more?

May I direct this question back to Miss Rebecca (rather than MadamaMiniTopic)?

Rebecca,

I assume from your sig line and a recent comment that you made on the "What Did You Learn Today" thread......

https://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=15839707&postcount=41

....... that you are currently in a relationship with a Dominant. Please correct me if I am wrong, and please feel free to take the 5th as these are very personal questions that Madama is asking.

[Btw... "taking the 5th" is American for "legitimately refusing to respond".]

How would you, Rebecca, respond to Madama's questions? If physical displays of intimacy ("sex", per the all-encompassing definition that we agreed to, above) were no longer possible (for whatever reason)... would that "void the relationship"?

If the answer to that question is "no", would you at least agree with my earlier comments to the effect that being restrained from expressing your feelings in a sexual way would be intensely frustrating?

 

[alice_underneath]

Mentors are a brilliant idea and reality for some.

Apologies for what is surely an ignorant question, Rebecca, but do you consider a Mentor/mentee relationship to be a "D/s relationship" of the type referred to in the query:

"Can Ds relationships exist without sex ?"

 

[PathFinder17]

I do! But I also appreciate your response very much - because I think you just endorsed the theory I put forth in my initial post on this subject.
Alice

yes, Alice, I do believe our views are common here.

Hey Miss Furry
Ohh in regards to Pathfinder17' s comments I would hazard a guess he speaks from a Ds Lifestyle perspective with a healthy respect for BDSM and kink thrown in. He is most welcome to correct me if I have been inaccurate in my assessment.
@}-}rebecca----

rebecca, you're assessment is correct.

 

[alice_underneath]

Ohh in regards to Pathfinder17' s comments I would hazard a guess he speaks from a Ds Lifestyle perspective with a healthy respect for BDSM and kink thrown in. He is most welcome to correct me if I have been inaccurate in my assessment.

rebecca, you're assessment is correct.

PathFinder,

Please excuse me for asking what is surely a very basic question.

Terminology is frequently confusing to me - possibly because many people seem to employ different definitions or concepts, but mostly because I have no experience and access to very little information other than what I read on this board.

My question is: what do you mean when you refer to "a Ds Lifestyle"? I understand from your earlier comments that your particular flavor of dominance involves the urge to direct, guide, and nurture your submissive. But does the "lifestyle" label indicate anything else?

yes, Alice, I do believe our views are common here.

Well, as I said to Mr. Masters earlier on this thread....

Great minds.....



Alice

 

[Purple Sage]

Well, well- you all have been very busy since I last checked this thread. Regarding the 'mini topic' : First, let me say that this seems rather un-mini to me, and could well have supported a full blown thread of it's own. However, this is a neat trick to narrow the participants to those that have slogged through the original topic and continue to find something interesting going on, so I have no complaints.
I've been in a 'training' relationship with a sub before, which was significantly more emotional and experiential than the typical 'mentoring' relationship. In this kind of thing, it's hard for me to conceive of a non-sexual relationship in the broad way that's been specified- the merest demand for obedience and the resulting compliance is sexual. While simple dominance and submission are not necessarily sexual, it seems to me that in the 'lifestyle' context, they are inherently sexualized, even if no physical contact or orgasms take place. When assertive and compliant become Dominance and Submission, I think there's something sexual going on.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Don't know why I am so tired today ......must have been to much sashimi at lunch......shrugs........promise to get back on 'task' and reply to posts in my morning........konnichiwa..

 

[alice_underneath]

I have been asked to explain the significance of the lyrics that I put up in post #87 on this thread.

LOL... There is no significance, other than the fact that I was in a very silly mood and responding to Miss Rebecca's Sinatra post.

After writing - "Here's one for Mr. Sage (in case your name doesn't refer to salvia)....." - I put up the lyrics to Panama Red, a song by New Riders of the Purple Sage.

http://www.nrpsmusic.com/



Alice

 

[MadamaMiniTopic]

I have been asked to explain the significance of the lyrics that I put up in post #87 on this thread.

LOL... There is no significance, other than the fact that I was in a very silly mood and responding to Miss Rebecca's Sinatra post.

After writing - "Here's one for Mr. Sage (in case your name doesn't refer to salvia)....." - I put up the lyrics to Panama Red, a song by New Riders of the Purple Sage.

http://www.nrpsmusic.com/



Alice

.

Oh Miss Alicesan Konnichiwa domo origato for the music we find it to be very soothing to the soul. You very thoughtful and fun lady.

~ bows ~ ​

 

[alice_underneath]

Don't know why I am so tired today

I DO!!!!

[Sound = sincere, affectionate, uproarious laughter] HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! [/Sound]

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