I m new, jst to kno smthing.

I access and post to Lit exclusively via my phone and I manage just fine.

Of course, I am the type that doesn't use that wretched "text-speak" even in text messages.

And we thank you very much for that! :cool: Seriously, thank you.
 
And we thank you very much for that! :cool: Seriously, thank you.

You are most welcome. I'm glad to see that it's appreciated.

The recent beating that written language has suffered makes me sick. I read somewhere that experts predict that in X number of years (I don't remember the number but it is well within my foreseeable lifetime), punctuation of all kinds will be obsolete.
 
You are most welcome. I'm glad to see that it's appreciated.

The recent beating that written language has suffered makes me sick. I read somewhere that experts predict that in X number of years (I don't remember the number but it is well within my foreseeable lifetime), punctuation of all kinds will be obsolete.

If you've ever read a current high school student's essays, the kind they actually hand in to be graded, this becomes so, so much easier to believe. Most of them don't know what an apostrophe is, let alone a goddamn semicolon.

Always nice to meet another linguaphile, though :)
 
If you've ever read a current high school student's essays, the kind they actually hand in to be graded, this becomes so, so much easier to believe. Most of them don't know what an apostrophe is, let alone a goddamn semicolon.

Always nice to meet another linguaphile, though :)

I've been privy to this spectacle on an occasion or two.

I'm becoming an elementary teacher so that I can teach kids proper habits before it's too late; once they hit high school it's a lost cause.
 
Have they never heard of predictive text mode?

"As sn as u sh%t yr load N2 my (_!_) Ull consummate yr ownership of me... IL B yr wmn." Miley masturbated herself vigorously, d sensations of Charlie's ==B drivN her wyld.

Mmm hot stuff. I mn ht stf.
 
and i think you're still being a judgmental ass.

ed

cool...I'm a judgemental ass. I can live with that. The kid could have replied and said..."sorry...I was on a phone" and I wouldn't have had any issue. If you notice, it took 2 posts before I replied. For your shit attitude, I'll toss you a fuck you too. I think YOU are a problem here...so we are even.
 
Most of them don't know what an apostrophe is, let alone a goddamn semicolon.

I'm not strong on semicolon usage, but I can use, the, ... hell ... out of comma's, and periods! ;)

Here's a couple of things everyone may be interested in. If I were eloquent, this is what I would say ...

A graphic dissertation on the degradation of our education system. The short version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

The hour long version without the Powerpoint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCbdS4hSa0s&feature=relmfu
 
I've become a better writer in my time here. The great examples many set force me to actually think about how I write and I strive to improve my skills by referencing articles on grammar, the thesaurus and some long-misplaced vocabulary.

As for the direction this thread has taken, I feel the OP needs to observe, communicate more clearly and try to fit into this environment, while his critics would serve this community far better by trying to be gentler.

Personally, I don't want to be surrounded by textspeak OR assholes, and I doubt we want to deter the valuable lurkers, n00bs, or even vets, from posting by being jerks. Maybe Fuckmeat's earlier "grow a brain" comment in the 'can't navigate' thread chummed the waters for the sharkiness in some of the people I generally tend to really like and respect. If you want to go beyond snarky, go to town expressing yourselves on the GB, folks.
 
Hey all, i am very sorry for all the mess caused by me here. I heartly apologize for this and forgive me.
 
Hey all, i am very sorry for all the mess caused by me here. I heartly apologize for this and forgive me.

Not to worry: no real harm done. Now that you're familiar with one of the board's biggest pet peeves ;):D, I'd advise you to spend some time reading (The FAQ's and The Blank Manual) and observing to get a better feel for forum etiquette and dynamics.

Despite the rather rough start, welcome to Lit and enjoy your stay.
 
Hey why you all r taunting me. I am just asking.
U all r pathetic people.


I think the best advice is to follow the style of most of the posters. If we all wrote in Latin you would probably get torn apart if you wrote in perfect English.


Hey all, I am very sorry for all the mess caused by me here. I heartily apologize for this: please forgive me.

Nearly there!

Sorry, couldn't resist . . .
 
Have they never heard of predictive text mode?



Mmm hot stuff. I mn ht stf.

I wonder if anybody's ever written an entire erotic story in textish? Would it work? Would it end up under "Humor and Satire?"
 
NM quoth:
all the more reason to use grown-up words then, isn't it?
no, because remember, lit's a p40n board. :>

more seriously though: i don't like txt-ese either, but i also don't sit here and think that my preference for proper spelling & grammar--if not capitalization--makes what i have to say superior: it isn't. it's not like it's that difficult to understand the intended meaning here, NM.

kurokami quoth:
okay, but the OP was asking about story submission.
that's nice, but the conversation has since drifted from the subject, as about half a dozen posts prior to mine will show.

coastal-boy quoth:
cool...i'm a judgemental ass. i can live with that. the kid could have replied and said..."sorry...i was on a phone" and i wouldn't have had any issue. if you notice, it took 2 posts before i replied. for your shit attitude, i'll toss you a fuck you too. i think you are a problem here...so we are even.
i did notice that, and my response to darkbee included you and NM both. but let's look at something before we proceed.

coastal boy quoth:
my response is in the native language of trollish...a language i'm sure you may understand...fuck off worthless shit.
this was your first post in this thread to someone who barely had any posts at all to his name. so you accuse someone of being a troll, tell him to fuck off, call him a worthless shit...and you have the temerity to think my attitude is a problem?

if you really believe that, you need to crack open a tall, frosty glass of get-the-fuck-over-yourself. in fact, have two.

ed
 
athalia quoth:
i wonder if anybody's ever written an entire erotic story in textish? would it work? would it end up under "humor and satire?"
heh!

bertrand russell quoth:
it would belong in the BDSM section.
i wish lit allowed us to give rep to posts. that was excellent!

(laurel, manu, please upgrade to the next generation of vbulletin!)

i'm kinda tempted though to translate one of my stories into l337, though...

ed
 
more seriously though: i don't like txt-ese either, but i also don't sit here and think that my preference for proper spelling & grammar--if not capitalization--makes what i have to say superior: it isn't. it's not like it's that difficult to understand the intended meaning here, NM.

You're assuming that I feel superior because of the way I choose to communicate, which is far from the truth. While text-speak may not be overly difficult to understand, for those of us who DO NOT text, it still requires greater effort to extrapolate the writer's intent than if they'd have just written it as it should have been to begin with. It's the same thing with your 1337-speak (as an example ), yeah, I could decipher it if I wanted to, but why should I be expected to because you're too lazy to use the socially accepted standard of properly formed words?

Finally, this site is based on the English language, therefore, English is the standard, not Dutch, not German, not Arabic, not Ukrainian, and certainly not text-speak. If this were Textaholics Anonymous instead of Lit, you could text all you wanted and you'd never hear a word out of me.
 
i did notice that, and my response to darkbee included you and NM both. but let's look at something before we proceed.


this was your first post in this thread to someone who barely had any posts at all to his name. so you accuse someone of being a troll, tell him to fuck off, call him a worthless shit...and you have the temerity to think my attitude is a problem?

if you really believe that, you need to crack open a tall, frosty glass of get-the-fuck-over-yourself. in fact, have two.

ed

doesn't change my opinion.
1) the OP makes a confusing post, primarily because it is in txt.
2) when asked to refrain, the OP basically flips off the request.
3) the first post by the OP is "possibly" about having sex with an underage child or a story about that situation...hell who knows for sure...I know I don't...but that is what it looks like to me.
4) hmmmm....have we ever seen this kind of posting before if it is?
5) courtesy is responded with courtesy.
6) I call shit when I sense it. Some people, let others walk over them.
7) Since you and Erika in your infinite wisdom feel this board is better off without people like me...cool...I'll leave. You can continue to groom your guru status with trolls who write stories about underaged children. I'll stay in the GB where "I belong".
 
If you've ever read a current high school student's essays, the kind they actually hand in to be graded, this becomes so, so much easier to believe. Most of them don't know what an apostrophe is, let alone a goddamn semicolon.

You can stretch that on to college students.

While I suck at many parts of grammar, seeing the lack of paragraphs and horrendous punctuation is sad.
 
coastal boy quoth:
i call shit when i sense it. some people, let others walk over them.
since you and erika in your infinite wisdom feel this board is better off without people like me...cool...i'll leave. you can continue to groom your guru status with trolls who write stories about underaged children. i'll stay in the GB where "i belong".
there's a massive contradiction between sentence 1 and the rest of the quoted portion. truly massive. also, a misappropriated sense of victimhood, for that matter.

NM quoth:
you're assuming that i feel superior because of the way i choose to communicate, which is far from the truth. while text-speak may not be overly difficult to understand, for those of us who do not text, it still requires greater effort to extrapolate the writer's intent than if they'd have just written it as it should have been to begin with. it is the same thing with your 1337-speak (as an example ), yeah, i could decipher it if i wanted to, but why should I be expected to because you're too lazy to use the socially accepted standard of properly formed words?
so your objection is that there's a lack of respect being communicated by the OP to you and others due to the use of text-based shorthand?

NM quoth:
finally, this site is based on the english language, therefore, english is the standard, not dutch, not german, not arabic, not ukrainian, and certainly not text-speak. if this were textaholics anonymous instead of lit, you could text all you wanted and you'd never hear a word out of me.
this is a total red herring: text-ese of dutch, german, arabic or ukrainian, etc., would in fact simply be text versions of dutch, german, arabic or ukrainian--the latter 2 of which would also use a different alphabet. text-ese is not its own distinct language as its grammar (such as it is) and vocabulary is obviously culled from english entirely. one might most accurately describe it as a cipher.

ed
 
so your objection is that there's a lack of respect being communicated by the OP to you and others due to the use of text-based shorthand?

Yeah. I think it could be called disrespectful, especially after being informed that textese is not an accepted method of communication on HT. Unlike NM, I'm going to fully admit that I find SMS language bloody difficult to decipher. And when something is hard to read, I quickly lose patience with it and move on and I don't think I'm alone in that regard. Now - I'm not so big-headed as to think my contributions are all that and a bag of chips, but if the OP wants assistance from the board, then isn't it in his/her best interest to make the post as understandable to as many people as possible?

The thing is Ed, well established groups (such as the HT regulars) are usually going to have certain standards/protocols by which all members are expected to abide and I don't think it's at all unreasonable to speak up when someone violates one of those standards. Although - I would hope it would be done in as civil a manner as possible. IMO, if an individual seeks to join a group, then he or she should expect to conform to it's standards, instead of expecting the group to conform to him or her. And if he/she doesn't agree with or like the protocol, then why seek membership to begin with?
 
so your objection is that there's a lack of respect being communicated by the OP to you and others due to the use of text-based shorthand?

My objection is that the only time and place that text-speak may be admissible is in the context of cell phone texting, even then I seriously question it's validity. Using text-speak in a forum setting is akin to using all caps or no punctuation or no sentence structure or paragraphs to separate thoughts or ideas. IMHO, it is the epitome of illiteracy.

this is a total red herring: text-ese of dutch, german, arabic or ukrainian, etc., would in fact simply be text versions of dutch, german, arabic or ukrainian--

You're WAY over thinking things just to continue an argument. The point was that this site is IN English - as in words, complete words, NOT some foreign language, and NOT text.
 
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