I miss the fitness threads and the fitness Doms!

[Keroin]

This is why I'm irritated at the statistic. The whole idea was based off of actuarial tables used in health insurance from decades ago. It has nothing to do with health and everything to do with risk. SKinny people aren't necessarily more healthy, but they are less risky overall. And that risk is not just from weight-related health issues. It's also from activity-related issues. Some skinny-fat latte-sipping cafe-potato may have horrible muscle tone, be weak, and no ability to run, but he's also not likely to get crushed by a load of gravel on the work site.

What pisses me off about it is the usage of "obese" itself. Let's take one of my favourite examples, Pyrros Dimas. Dimas is the greatest olympic lifter of modern times and a fantastically healthy guy. At the last olympics he competed in, he was 5'8" and 187lbs of pure olympian bad-ass. That is a BMI of 28.4 and that is "overweight". At his height, 197lbs would be "obese".

This guy is 10lbs from "obese"? Gimme a fuckin break.

I would rather see "obese" changed to "at risk", which is more accurate a reflection of the original idea behind BMI. Even then, it's insulting , because it does not even remotely take into account build, muscle, or bodyfat percentage.

You, at 20.8, are brilliantly healthy and active. Most people at that BMI aren't. They are just fast metabolism types who don't work to maintain weight and are no more active than the typical first-worlder. You actually squirrel those actuarial tables because your level of activity leads to greater risk of injury that makes up for general healthy resistance to the malaises that plague fatties like Pyrros Dimas.

Here's a good bit from Wiki about BMI, (note the bold)...

While the formula for BMI dates to the 19th century, the term "body mass index" for the ratio and its popularity date to a 1972 paper by Ancel Keys, which found the BMI to be the best proxy for body fat percentage among ratios of weight and height;[3][4] the interest in measuring body fat being due to obesity becoming a discernible issue in prosperous Western societies. BMI was explicitly cited by Keys as being appropriate for population studies, and inappropriate for individual diagnosis. Nevertheless, due to its simplicity, it came to be widely used for individual diagnosis, despite its inappropriateness.

BMI provided a simple numeric measure of a person's "fatness" or "thinness", allowing health professionals to discuss over- and under-weight problems more objectively with their patients. However, BMI has become controversial because many people, including physicians, have come to rely on its apparent numerical authority for medical diagnosis, but that was never the BMI's purpose; it is meant to be used as a simple means of classifying sedentary (physically inactive) individuals with an average body composition.

You are correct, it isn't the best means to determine individual health.

 

[WriterDom]

it is meant to be used as a simple means of classifying sedentary (physically inactive) individuals with an average body composition.


That would be most of the people here. I'd say about 4% of the county belongs to one of the two gyms. Belonging and seriously working out are two different things. And they are people who workout at home or bike or jog but still very much in the minority. For the rest of the people it gives a pretty good estimate of body fat. I like the DOD version.

For males you subtract your neck from your waist and go to a chart. Females have a butt measurement as well and of course a different chart. It was within 1% of what the gym electronic thingy measured me. Just going by BMI I'd have 3.5% more body fat. I'd still like to lose about 16 pounds.

You can figure out your own from following the links

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/a/bodyfat.htm

 

[Bandit58]

Glad to hear you made it through Bandit. When will you know the results?

Not until April 30 - I did have an appointment at the outpatient clinic for the 9th but had to change it due to Sir's dialysis and doctor appointment schedule for that week.

I guess if there was anything serious they'd have let me know sooner

 

[Homburg]

I'm just really struggling with my give a damn these days. Everything is eclipsed by my wanting my husband.

*hugs*



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On the plus side, I woke up this morning wanting sex, breakfast, and tylenol.

Apparently I did something right in yesterday's lift.

 

[Keroin]

I'm just really struggling with my give a damn these days. Everything is eclipsed by my wanting my husband.

That sucks Gracie. But from what you've told us, it sounds like you're doing OK, health wise. Keep going. Healthy body & mind go hand in hand and will probably help with the sadness.

Not until April 30 - I did have an appointment at the outpatient clinic for the 9th but had to change it due to Sir's dialysis and doctor appointment schedule for that week.

I guess if there was anything serious they'd have let me know sooner

Wow, that seems like a really long wait! But, like you said, if there was something serious I'm sure they wouldn't wait to tell you - so that's good.

On the plus side, I woke up this morning wanting sex, breakfast, and tylenol.

I woke up this morning wanting chocolate, chocolate and chocolate...pretty much your average morning.


First tennis of the season today!!! Actually, first tennis in nearly 2 1/2 years. Holy cow. It was really cold and started to snow and I hacked up my own body weight in mucus but otherwise it was really, really fun.

 

[YourCaptor]

Ugh, weak again.

Can't I just undergo surgery. Make those micro tears manually with a scalpel.

Forced my cardio through to were I left off though. It sucks when the veins in your neck pump so hard you can hear them.

 

[WriterDom]

Sunday is a time trial on the bike for April. My last run on the river route until May. I want to get some hill work in this month before I try it again in May. And some bike shoes with new pedals would be nice. I still want to do most of my work in the gym getting my general fitness level up.

I just have to be sure and lift on Monday and Tuesday so I don't run out of week for lifting.

 

[ownedsubgal]

I'm just really struggling with my give a damn these days. Everything is eclipsed by my wanting my husband.

focus on how much of a d*mn HE gives.

((((hugs)))))

 

[Homburg]

Cycle 3, Wave B
BENCH DAY

90x5
115x5
135x3 warm-ups done
160x3
180x3
205x10 Rep calc says 273

Pretty good set. I felt tight, but towards the end really brought it together and squeezed another rep from pure form alone. My arms were gone. It was only perfect positioning that allowed me to get the bar back up.

Pull-ups with feet supported - 1x10, 1x6

Push-ups - 1x14, 1x10

Fun fact about push-ups - the movement uses the lats quite a bit. After benching AND doing pull-ups, you really notice the lats involvement in the movement.

Regardless, it was a good lift. Really good overall, and both LB and I were happily blasted afterwards. I gave a thought to doing a pipe walk, but today is a game day, so I want to be able to walk/stand tonight

 

[WriterDom]

So I learned that cycling shorts are designed to be worn without underwear. Think about that when you see a hot chick biking down the highway. And it did help a lot. Enough to where I can see myself upping the mileage this year. But I'll work on conditioning in the gym for the next couple of weeks. Tomorrow is yoga if I can drag my ass there in the morning. And some leg work. I'm due for a good leg day. One of those where you wobble on the way out of the gym.

 

[graceanne]

focus on how much of a d*mn HE gives.

((((hugs)))))

Thanks. That's what I try to do; diet for him. I don't always succeed and he promised to help when he gets home, but I just keep telling myself he'll be so thrilled if he gets home and I've dropped another pants size. I'm starting over on my diet tomorrow. If I can stick to it until he gets home I could drop another pants size before he gets home. Maybe get down to my post pregnancy weight with my son.

 

[graceanne]

That sucks Gracie. But from what you've told us, it sounds like you're doing OK, health wise. Keep going. Healthy body & mind go hand in hand and will probably help with the sadness.

I just saw these (your comment, homburgs, and osg's). I hadn't come on here cause I was not sticking to my diet this week.

Health-wise I'm doing well. I haven't been eating great this week, but I'm going to start over tomorrow. I just need to stick to my diet, cause it's not the kind that you can do one day and not the other.

 

[Homburg]

Cycle 3, Wave B
Deadlift Day

155x5
190x5
230x3 Warm-ups done
270x3
305x3
345x10 Rep calc says 460#

This was a fun lift, and, not to toot my own horn, it was also fucking impressive. For whatever reason, things were hot, and I slammed the reps out. 345# went up faster than 155# did and I banged out the reps like I was doing unweighted squats. The second rep came up so fast that the bar kept climbing after it hit the top. It almost turned into a 345# high pull.

Seated Power Cleans with 20# dumbbells - 1x40, 1x20

Also went crazy on this set. 20 went by with no physical impact, so I hit 30. 30 went by and I still felt good, so I hit 40. 40 felt close to enough, so I stopped. Second set? Not so much. 20 reps took SERIOUS effort, as I'd blown it all out in that first set. Eh, whatever. It's all about the effort.

Bridges - did two for, um, time

I wasn't really counting, as I was talking form while doing it to try to help LB get a clean bridges.

Also, I don't usually pimp stuff, but for those who live int he US, EliteFTS has a crazy good deal on lifting belts. They came out with their own brand, but the first order was not exactly what they wanted (two-prong instead of single), and they're selling these belts off at 50% of list. These are high-quality 12mm belts, and they would be solid at $75. At $32.50, they're a steal. That's not too much more than I would pay for some no-name nylon belt at Sports Authority.

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Actually, I know what it was. MIS was there. Whenever a woman is in the room, guys just lift harder. LB said something about it as well. It doesn't matter who she is, or what her relationship standing, the ego kicks in and the bar goes up. And, as she was my woman, it gave me even more impetus to show the young guy up (LB is almost ten years younger than I am).

I'm both not-competitive and hyper competitive. It's weird. I don't seek out competition, and I don't particularly thrive under it, but I do really get into challenge. The fact that LB is ten years younger than I am, ex-military, and bigger than I am all adds in towards making me push harder. It's part of our banter too, as he talks about how I push harder to "show the young guy up" and how he wants to not let the geezer beat him. It's all good-natured, and I think it pushes both of us.

 

[subish2009]

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Actually, I know what it was. MIS was there. Whenever a woman is in the room, guys just lift harder. LB said something about it as well. It doesn't matter who she is, or what her relationship standing, the ego kicks in and the bar goes up. And, as she was my woman, it gave me even more impetus to show the young guy up (LB is almost ten years younger than I am).

I'm both not-competitive and hyper competitive. It's weird. I don't seek out competition, and I don't particularly thrive under it, but I do really get into challenge. The fact that LB is ten years younger than I am, ex-military, and bigger than I am all adds in towards making me push harder. It's part of our banter too, as he talks about how I push harder to "show the young guy up" and how he wants to not let the geezer beat him. It's all good-natured, and I think it pushes both of us.

I'm this way, too...well, my own version of it, but I think it's the same thing in spirit. When I was a runner, I would ALWAYS run faster if I ran past anyone on the sidewalk, trail, wherever. In any kind of fitness class, I always try to get in the front row because it makes me work harder if I think others may be watching me. In my belly dancing class, if I'm dragging or struggling with a particular move, I'll pretend I'm dancing for my D. It's amazing how fast I shape up if I think about him watching me.

 

[graceanne]

So far so good. I accidentally snacked on my nephews fruit snacks, but otherwise have stuck to my diet. Now I just have to make it through the rest of the day.

 

[WriterDom]

I went ahead and maxed out on the elliptical last night. Forty minutes is enough. I hate the Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday aerobics though. So I'll start doing fun bike rides on Saturday. Leave from the house and do 30 minutes in one direction and then go back.

Another month and my endurance will be built up and I can do more bike. Next winter do a better job in the gym. Looking forward to the weights today. I think when you force yourself to do things you might not enjoy so much but are good for you, it makes you appreciate the things you do enjoy doing more.

 

[Cattypuss]

Fell off the wagon MAJORLY over Easter weekend. Stupid stupid stupid.

I will find out what the damage is tonight on the scales. It's gonna be huge.

The binge-demon has got me. Fucking Binge Eating Disorder.

 

[subish2009]

Fell off the wagon MAJORLY over Easter weekend. Stupid stupid stupid.

I will find out what the damage is tonight on the scales. It's gonna be huge.

The binge-demon has got me. Fucking Binge Eating Disorder.

I have that same binge-demon affliction. The good news for me (and I mention it because I'm hoping the same will maybe be true for you...?) is that I tend to find that after the major damage occurs, I am extra stringent about sticking to what I should have been doing. And once I'm back on track, that huge damage tends to fall off rather quickly. Maybe not without some backslide sticking around for a while, but it's small enough not to be panic-inducing.

Anyway, I hope that proves true for you, too. Remember, everyone screws up now and then. Holidays are hard. Forgive yourself.

 

[Cattypuss]

I have that same binge-demon affliction. The good news for me (and I mention it because I'm hoping the same will maybe be true for you...?) is that I tend to find that after the major damage occurs, I am extra stringent about sticking to what I should have been doing. And once I'm back on track, that huge damage tends to fall off rather quickly. Maybe not without some backslide sticking around for a while, but it's small enough not to be panic-inducing.

Anyway, I hope that proves true for you, too. Remember, everyone screws up now and then. Holidays are hard. Forgive yourself.

Thank you.

Well, it was a 5.5 pound gain.

Fucking Binge Eating Disorder.

 

[subish2009]

Thank you.

Well, it was a 5.5 pound gain.

Fucking Binge Eating Disorder.

Again, I know it's different for everyone, and I'm really tall, so more poundage doesn't mean quite as much on me as it does on someone smaller, BUT...I've seen a six-pound decrease post-binge in as little as two days before. Try to stay positive. You'll get it back down. Hugs.

 

[Cattypuss]

Again, I know it's different for everyone, and I'm really tall, so more poundage doesn't mean quite as much on me as it does on someone smaller, BUT...I've seen a six-pound decrease post-binge in as little as two days before. Try to stay positive. You'll get it back down. Hugs.

 

[WriterDom]

Thank you.

Well, it was a 5.5 pound gain.

Fucking Binge Eating Disorder.

I'd be willing to bet that about 2/3 of that weight gain is water weight and if you'll get back on track and have some of those long ice free hikes you'll see much of it drop off the next time you weigh. To gain that much fat you'd have to eat 20,000 calories above what you burned just staying alive.

Seems like you went through the same thing around Christmas. To the point to where you wanted to throw in the towel and you got back on track. Start over tomorrow. Tomorrow doesn't care how good or bad you have been. It's a new day.

 

[Homburg]

Today was Overhead Press day, and last day of the wave. Yay. No notes on the lift, as I have had a FEROCIOUSLY shitty day and cannot be arsed to type in the stats of my lackluster lift.

Yay for fuck-all shit days getting in the way of good performance under the bar. You know it's bad when you can't even channel the anger into the iron and push hard.

Fuck me.

 

[BiBunny]

We went a different route on our walk today, and it SUCKED. Blech. Can't even go back to the old route tomorrow because it's supposed to storm. Oh, well, maybe Friday.

 

[Cattypuss]

Tomorrow doesn't care how good or bad you have been. It's a new day.

This concept really "speaks" to me - thank you!