"I seek like minded individuals"

graceanne said:
Chivalry? Most women are taught from early on that it's not 'lady like' to take the first step. Heck when I was a teen I wasn't even allowed to call guys, cause my mom thought it was slutty. I'm not saying I agree (I don't), but that's probably why. Frankly, I don't think that any gender should always make the first move, htat it should be mutual, but . . .

Well, no one ever listens to me. :mad:

This is probably going to make some people spew, but I consider myself a feminist. I really despise societal gender roles. Chivalry is too much responsibility for me.
 
graceanne said:
Chivalry? Most women are taught from early on that it's not 'lady like' to take the first step. Heck when I was a teen I wasn't even allowed to call guys, cause my mom thought it was slutty. I'm not saying I agree (I don't), but that's probably why. Frankly, I don't think that any gender should always make the first move, htat it should be mutual, but . . .

Well, no one ever listens to me. :mad:
Lol, I'm incapable of making the first move, makes it a bit tricky. I got pretty fricken lucky with Mistress :). Seriously though, once some girls' friends tried to get me to ask her out, I couldn't, way too nervous. Well they said she was shy anyway, two shy people isn't gonna work to well lol.
 
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graceanne said:
Chivalry? Most women are taught from early on that it's not 'lady like' to take the first step. Heck when I was a teen I wasn't even allowed to call guys, cause my mom thought it was slutty. I'm not saying I agree (I don't), but that's probably why. Frankly, I don't think that any gender should always make the first move, htat it should be mutual, but . . .

Well, no one ever listens to me. :mad:
Did you say something, graceanne? :)
 
Marquis said:
This is probably going to make some people spew, but I consider myself a feminist. I really despise societal gender roles. Chivalry is too much responsibility for me.

I don't approve of a lot of gender rolls, but I don't think that going the opposite way is right either. Just because it used to be the guys job to aproach the girl, doesn't mean that now it should always be the girl. It should be 50/50. But then their's a lot of things that should happen, but don't. *shrugs*

On the other hand, I have never been able to approach anyone. It has nothing to do with me being a woman, and everything to do with me being who I am.

Here's a question: Subs; how many of you can approach a stranger and let him/her know that you're interested in them?
 
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I have problems approaching strangers for anything, even if it's not a potential romantic situation. I'm just scared of people in general.
 
Got a good one! He writes:
as a slave, or as a submissive, you are obligated to respond to your master/mistress. With that in mind, i will allow you to respond as to whether you wish to start with email or stay on this site.
I so want to tell him off! But then I am responding to him and that acknowledges that he is my "master"...ugh. What to do? (Yes, that was his whole message...)
 
Etoile said:
Got a good one! He writes:

I so want to tell him off! But then I am responding to him and that acknowledges that he is my "master"...ugh. What to do? (Yes, that was his whole message...)

maybe you could have your daddy or wife respond?
 
graceanne said:
I don't approve of a lot of gender rolls, but I don't think that going the opposite way is right either. Just because it used to be the guys job to aproach the girl, doesn't mean that now it should always be the girl. It should be 50/50. But then their's a lot of things that should happen, but don't. *shrugs*

On the other hand, I have never been able to approach anyone. It has nothing to do with me being a woman, and everything to do with me being who I am.

Here's a question: Subs; how many of you can approach a stranger and let him/her know that you're interested in them?

Actually, gender rolls I like, but only the seeded kind, with a shmear of cream cheese.

I think most things should be 50/50 as well, but its so far from that it's ridiculous. Granted, I am a cheap motherfucker most of the time, but I tell you if a bitch doesn't even do the little fake reach for her wallet when the bill comes, I know exactly what the gameplan for her is. Treat me like a John and I will treat you like a trick, it's that simple.
 
Etoile said:
I have problems approaching strangers for anything, even if it's not a potential romantic situation. I'm just scared of people in general.

Many real life subs I've known have been like this.

Oddly enough I am just the opposite. I love to approach people. When I'm in foreign countries I will try to talk to people when I know two sentences of their language.

Kind of goes nicely with my theory that subs are intrinsically people that believe they owe something and doms intrinsicly believe they are owed.
 
Oh man, this is so much fun, I like reading her mail more than I like reading my own. We've gotten about 20 "Hey baby's" and some WEIRD offers.

Here's one that I found damn impressive though, snatch him up ladies!:

Black, into humiliation and ready for bi girls too. All in a very usable package. You could be what I am looking for in my partner and I could be what you are seeking. I'm very interested in talking with you. Rather than explaining in detail what I'm into sexually or as an owner I'm going to address you in generalities to see if you are able to handle the general premise of being owned by a man like myself.

I'm seeking a smart girl who is into becoming totaly owned by an older creative and experienced guy who has a fetish for young, petite girls like you.. in looks, youth, experience and maturity at least. You will be a complete slave with me. No choices and your only limits will be my limits.

I'm not a blunt instrument. You won't get emails from me saying 'on your knees, cunt' although I am very capable of that in the proper environment. Until then I don't own you and it's pointless at a distance. Empty and for losers.

I'm a British accomplished feature film director (hip indies not porn) living in Canada and you seem to have the qualities needed to fulfill both my private as well as public needs... when we are out in the vanilla world you would be my trophy, dressed and made over
to my requirements and groomed in your behavior (although something tells me you'd need little) with plenty of behavior and eye-contact restrictions. It's a lot of fun. First nights, theatre, fashion shows, press junkets, festivals, good restaurants. You would be with me in one of my two places in Canada and you would travel with me wherever when I'm filming. Next year for example we will be in Canada, Mexico, UK and Italy. Although I am independent and I had an advantaged upbringing and a successful career... I'm not motivated by money unless it's a means to a creative end... I am an artist to my core. I live the life of a successful and unconventional artist,

I'm very real and serious about this and will provide you with proof of who I am early in our discussions along with the means to prove everything that I am.

For me D/s formalities detract from reality. No monarch ever knighted me so to call me Sir or Lord or Master simply turns everything into a game. I like reality... my name is Steven. When I use you or violate you or whatever you it will be very real.You wont find in me an old insecure fart prancing around the basement in leather saying "call me Lord this or that." I've never been a part of the BDSM club and live by my own rules rather than some code of ethics set out by a bunch of control freaks.

I'm territorial, controlling, highly sexed, perverted, psychological, humorous, honest and very unusual. I'm not into micro-management so like my slave to be smart and intuitive. Bi is important because I like to see my slave service other girls.

You would never work at anything but being my woman and my property. Everything taken care of. You will never need to work and I take very good care of my valuable property but you will never say the word no to me.
 
I have now taken complete control of my feminine counterparts profile and am responding to emails.

This is the most fascinating social experiment I have ever participated in. The difference between the chumps and the big dogs is so obvious, I'm learning so much.

Hold on to your subs y'all... Marquis is coming...
 
I have no problem approaching women. As a matter of fact I do it all the time. I'm a really friendly person, I will talk to anyone. And in an unfriendly state like Oregon it gets me alot of weird looks.

But I can't approach men, even if it's not a relationship type thing. I can't even approach my pastor without stuttering. *shrugs* I could spend pages explaining why I am the way I am, but I doubt you all want to hear it. lol
 
graceanne said:
I have no problem approaching women. As a matter of fact I do it all the time. I'm a really friendly person, I will talk to anyone. And in an unfriendly state like Oregon it gets me alot of weird looks.

But I can't approach men, even if it's not a relationship type thing. I can't even approach my pastor without stuttering. *shrugs* I could spend pages explaining why I am the way I am, but I doubt you all want to hear it. lol
Lol, I stutter too when I get nervous, It's not uncommon grace, although exceedingly aggrivating. 'course nobody else but me seems to mind that much.
 
Aeroil said:
Lol, I stutter too when I get nervous, It's not uncommon grace, although exceedingly aggrivating. 'course nobody else but me seems to mind that much.

They're just not telling you. They're probably thinking:

"spit that shit out motherfucker!"
 
exactly the kind of paranoia that makes me hate it so much lol. Plus I think it makes me look like a damn idiot too.
 
Aeroil said:
exactly the kind of paranoia that makes me hate it so much lol. Plus I think it makes me look like a damn idiot too.

Well you don't stutter online...

Maybe it makes you look smart!

OK, I'll stop now, you're such a good sport Aeroil. Making me feel all guilty and shit.
 
Etoile said:
I have problems approaching strangers for anything, even if it's not a potential romantic situation. I'm just scared of people in general.

I have this weird thing about approaching strangers...i dont always like it, but i do it a lot, and find it very rewarding. Like Marquis i dont hesitate to start conversations with people, even if i dont speak the language.

I once spent the better part of an afternoon typing out questions and answers with a russian orthodox priest I met in Murmansk on Babel Fish. (I didnt meet him on Babel Fish, we typed on it. really bad grammar alert.) We still keep up.

Before i moved to Alaska i was literally asking everyone i ran into (including the people standing in front of me in lines at the store or McDonalds) if they liked living in Alaska. I met a few people doing that who i still see on a regular basis. (By the way, one of the reasons i moved here was that the overwhelming answer was I LOVE IT!)

When i am at a conference, i always end up with the rowdy group. I was at a ministers conference, came in late, had to take the last seat in the room, and ended up with some of the most fun people in the room. We all spent the rest of the week together, and ended up closing more than one bar at night.

And i have met some really good friends here, including one very special French Girl sub.
 
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I stutter at times too - I find that if I stop, slow down, and start over (slowly) that it goes much better. And don't let the other people get to you. The thing that annoyed my classmates and I about our prof who stuttered was that he wouldn't even try to stop - he would just keep going and going. At least most of the people that I have run across who stutter have tricks to at least stutter less ... this prof just drove us up the damn wall cuz he apparently didn't.
 
I only stutter when I'm nervous, and that's cause I forget what I was gonna say. I just feel like an idiot, frankly. And I don't care how nice people are about it, I've been around people who stutter and it's irritating.
 
graceanne said:
I only stutter when I'm nervous, and that's cause I forget what I was gonna say. I just feel like an idiot, frankly. And I don't care how nice people are about it, I've been around people who stutter and it's irritating.

On the other side of the fence, i read somewhere that Neil Casady could keep four conversations going simultaneously. I can only do two.
 
arctic-stranger said:
On the other side of the fence, i read somewhere that Neil Casady could keep four conversations going simultaneously. I can only do two.

Well, I can only do two conversations when it's person to person, but I can IM with up to four people(in different windows), and still surf the net.
 
graceanne said:
Well, I can only do two conversations when it's person to person, but I can IM with up to four people(in different windows), and still surf the net.

I have seen my daughter with 12 im's going, and she manages to keep up with them....more than two and i start saying the wrong things to the wrong people.
 
Marquis said:
Oh man, this is so much fun, I like reading her mail more than I like reading my own. We've gotten about 20 "Hey baby's" and some WEIRD offers.

Here's one that I found damn impressive though, snatch him up ladies!:

Here's my honest impression: He talks a good talk about himself but if if I were looking and he sent me that screed he'd be an instant DQ: he flashes the bling too much. :/ By that I mean he's using his status (fame, wealth, promise of travel and fun times, knowing other famous people) to draw women to him. To me, that's a sign of insecurity and superficiality, and it makes me pretty convinced that the other stuff he says about himself that sounds good...is just talk.

I think it's very funny that you've taken over your sub's profile. :D Now you are learning what the other side has to put up with, eh? I have a sub girlfriend who does the same thing on collarme: she has a maledom persona and nobody _ever_ guesses that she's other than that. She doesn't do it to mess with people, though, she's got a good heart. She just... tricky. ;)
 
graceanne said:
I have no problem approaching women. As a matter of fact I do it all the time. I'm a really friendly person, I will talk to anyone. And in an unfriendly state like Oregon it gets me alot of weird looks.

This made me laugh. One way to blow the average Oregonian's mind is to stick them for two weeks in some Southern state, and watch their paranoia escalate as every stranger they meet tries to start conversations with them. ;) I've actually seen this in action--it's pretty funny.
 
Marquis said:
So I've been trying my hand at the online dating thing.

Going OK so far. I still don't get as many messages as I would like. One of you online macking experts check out my collarme profile (DonatienDeSade) and be my consultant.

Well, perhaps one reason you're not getting many responses is due to the fact that when I look you up it says "profile undergoing approval." There are no words to read. :( I did see your primary picture that you put up, however. Here is my feedback. It both works and doesn't work for you. If you're looking for quantity in your responses it does not work because a lot of submissive women are going to be intimidated by your outfit. If quantity is more of what you want, I suggest you make your primary pic something natural-looking in street clothes but leave the second one up for those who are curious about you and browse the rest of your images. It's a good picture, however, if your intent is to filter out those who might be scared of the way you look. It's also going to filter out, unfortunately, some women who automatically equate someone wearing S&M fashion with superficiality and also draw to you their opposite, women who are hung up on physical appearance and looks.

Yeah, deciding someone isn't worth sending a note to because of their clothes is a snap judgment but when you have to wade through hundreds of personal-ad responses, which the women on collarme usually have to do as well as look at profiles, you start to think in shortcuts. Some of the submissives that won't answer you because of the pic (both from the scared group and the anti-fashion group) are probably worth getting to know.
 
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