Is “SAFE SEX” an erection killer in a story ?

[Bramblethorn]

I don't come to Lit to read about how responsible people are having sex in the stories. I know that's how we should be in life, but no one says "hey I wanna read a responsible sex story that also gets me hot."

Not so. Personally I'm not fussed either way, but there most definitely are people who enjoy safe-sex in their porn. At least one of them has posted about that on these forums quite recently.

It's like big breasts or incest or gay-male sex: some like it, some dislike it, some are indifferent, and Lit's big enough to accommodate all those tastes.

For some readers, stopping to slap on a condom is an unwelcome distraction from the story. For others - say, somebody who's watched a friend die from AIDS - the absence of that condom can be more distracting.

No. You fucking don't. We know we should use protection in real life to guard against disease and pregnancy, but if it ain't got a pivotal role in the story here on lit, then to hell with that. People read here to fulfill fantasies. To experience what they may not be able to experience in that "real world".

That may well be why you read here, and that's fine, but you're not speaking for all readers on Literotica. I've posted some decidedly non-escapist stuff, and as far as I can tell from the response there are quite a few readers who enjoy that sort of thing. (That, or my partner's been creating dozens of dummy accounts to massage my ego

You're welcome to go on enjoying escapist stories, but please don't tell those with different tastes that they're not welcome here. If the OP wants to include condoms in his stories, there are readers who'll enjoy that, and the ones who don't are welcome to skip to the next author.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[sr71plt]

Well, yes. But Second's got a point. Those here for the fantasy of sex haven't been complaining about there being stories depicting safe sex--at least I don't remember seeing any such complaint threads. Maybe someone can cite them. But every other week we get a complaint thread about stories not using safe sex. (That a look at the title for this thread. It's got one of those icons of disapproval and judgment in front of it.) I think the point is that those folks should look for and read what they like and just leave the "here because this is a porn site and we're adult enough to know the difference between fantasy and reality" people the hell alone.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Well, yes. But Second's got a point. Those here for the fantasy of sex haven't been complaining about there being stories depicting safe sex--at least I don't remember seeing any such complaint threads. Maybe someone can cite them. But every other week we get a complaint thread about stories not using safe sex. (That a look at the title for this thread. It's got one of those icons of disapproval and judgment in front of it.)

According to the first post in this thread, the OP created it because he got flamed when he posted a story depicting safe sex. I think it's a bit of a leap to interpret the as anything but a reaction to that; I certainly don't see anything in his post that could be taken as disapproval of other authors' choices on what to write.

I think the point is that those folks should look for and read what they like and just leave the "here because this is a porn site and we're adult enough to know the difference between fantasy and reality" people the hell alone.

We seem to be interpreting this thread very differently.

AFAICT, you've read it as the OP objecting to bareback stories, with SecondCircle defending people's right to post bareback.

To me, it reads as the OP asking whether safe-sex stories are OK here, and SecondCircle telling him "No it's not OK, nobody comes here to read that".

If I've misinterpreted SC's words here, I'll happily accept clarification. If not, then the "read what you like and leave the others alone" advice might be better given in a different direction.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm tired of the subject coming up at all. As I noted, as far as I can see, it's only the safe sex vigilantes who initiate posts about it at all on the forum. Perhaps you can cite some forum threads otherwise.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'm tired of the subject coming up at all. As I noted, as far as I can see, it's only the safe sex vigilantes who initiate posts about it at all on the forum. Perhaps you can cite some forum threads otherwise.

Since when does "hey is safe sex an erection killer?" count as "vigilantism"?

 

[QuantumJumping]

The Transporter

Jesus Christ, people, its OKAY in fiction and fantasy if people don't mention the use of condoms. If I saw a movie where right before the car chase, the protagonist fastened his seatbelt and adjusted his mirrors, I'd fucking puke. Or change the channel which is just as bad.

Yes, safe sex is a practice that we should all adhere to, and admire in certain aspects, but unless it is necessary to the story and its plot and characters, fuck condoms. If I read a story about a hot suburban single mom having a fling, I don't want her kids crying and interrupting the flow of the FANTASY story I'm reading. I don't come to Lit to read about how responsible people are having sex in the stories. I know that's how we should be in life, but no one says "hey I wanna read a responsible sex story that also gets me hot."

No. You fucking don't. We know we should use protection in real life to guard against disease and pregnancy, but if it ain't got a pivotal role in the story here on lit, then to hell with that. People read here to fulfill fantasies. To experience what they may not be able to experience in that "real world".

So in my opinion? No it's not OK. Fuck condoms and the pill and diaphragms and OBGYNs and all that shit. Sorry for the french but this topic is a little worn out. If you want responsibility and safe sex, go to another more "responsible" site, and we'll continue to bathe in cum and other obscene fantasies until we drown.

In real life I have plenty of condoms and kids and diseases and kids and wars and injustice and heartlessness and disappointment and all that good "real" stuff. I come to lit to be swept away on the wings of a fantasy, without having to roll a condom on my cock beforehand. Let's try to savor that, eh?

ACTUALLY in The Transporter movies, the driver fastens his seat belt, has passengers fasten their seat belts, adjusts his mirrors, and I had a great experience watching those movies. And the ensuing car chases.

 

[sr71plt]

Since when does "hey is safe sex an erection killer?" count as "vigilantism"?

Oh, give me a break.

 

[PennLady]

The problem with questions like this - and I think I took the OP in the same way Bramblethorn did - is that the answers will vary. Does safe sex kill a story for me? No. Does non-safe sex? No. Someone else will feel differently. To me it depends on so many factors -- the type of story, the type of characters, the time it's set in -- that you can never get a true answer, if there's one to get.

I don't think any writer here has a responsibility to promote safe sex. We're all (we hope) adults and can make those decisions ourselves. But if it works for your story, it works. If not, fine.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Like cinema and TV, characters in Lit stories can't get STDs, need to pee or sleep, etc., unless the author wants it as relevant to the story. They are not real so the subject is jejune. I read a series of erotic fiction that had a front page of, "These stories are fantasies. In real life make sure you practice safe sex." Isn't that a cover-all?

 

[TittyBear69]

Asiandream, I think it depends on the story

So far I’ve only posted here some actual experiences – but I have many sexual fantasy ideas I’d very much like to write about.

I mentioned condoms in my posts so far - because this is what actually happened – but some of the feedback and comments I have received say that this spoils the story.

I guess I’d rather like advice as to should I not mention condoms in any future stories – is safe sex really an “erection killer” ?[/QUOTE]

Ms. Asiandream I personally agree with most of the other posters here. Be true to your story and put in condoms per your writing discretion. Even if having a condom mentioned is a bit of a 'buzz-kill' a well-written story will survive it and most readers won't mind.

The best advice I ever gotten regarding my writing was to write the story YOU want to write. (Those stories end up being my best.) As the song goes "you can't please everyone so you might as well please yourself".

And double Kudos from me for putting yourself out there and letting us read your work when English isn't your 'birth' language. I can't imagine being able to write in another language than the one I grew up with!

Thanks for the interesting topic question,
TittyBear

 

[richfun]

I’m new here – I’ve posted both some real experiences and some of my sexual fantasies on a few websites before – but a friend suggested that they were good enough for a proper erotic story site like this – even thou English is not my native language.

So far I’ve only posted here some actual experiences – but I have many sexual fantasy ideas I’d very much like to write about.

I mentioned condoms in my posts so far - because this is what actually happened – but some of the feedback and comments I have received say that this spoils the story.

I guess I’d rather like advice as to should I not mention condoms in any future stories – is safe sex really an “erection killer” ?

Think you have plenty of advice already, so just want to say I love your stoties

Have somebody's in owe if you wish to look at my profile

 

[horrorotic]

As a reader realism, and how I accept it, depends on the genre. If you're writing mystery or a thriller or even horror real life things fit well, and to some extent veering to far from reality can be the distraction from enjoyment.

But I think erotica is a genre that very much extends and bends reality because its all fantasy. yes, many erotic scenarios happen in real life, but most are exaggerated greatly here, the written version of porn where all women are hot, guys studs, perfect bodies willing to do anything all that stuff.

So to have to deal with condoms or bring up birth control isn't something I prefer to see. Hey, at that point, maybe you can add her having her period and there's no sex in that chapter.

But there are people who would think its great you're being responsible in your porn

I don't know that there is anything here universally accepted or rejected, but I would bet most people would rather not deal with mundane things like that while they're getting off.

 

[JJA122]

I don't mind it at all. It can add to the plot, anticipation etc.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Think you have plenty of advice already, so just want to say I love your stoties

Have somebody's in owe if you wish to look at my profile

You're replying to somebody who hasn't posted since 2013.

 

[RelentlessOnanism]

I’m new here – I’ve posted both some real experiences and some of my sexual fantasies on a few websites before – but a friend suggested that they were good enough for a proper erotic story site like this – even thou English is not my native language.

So far I’ve only posted here some actual experiences – but I have many sexual fantasy ideas I’d very much like to write about.

I mentioned condoms in my posts so far - because this is what actually happened – but some of the feedback and comments I have received say that this spoils the story.

I guess I’d rather like advice as to should I not mention condoms in any future stories – is safe sex really an “erection killer” ?

Personally, I don't like the use of condoms in any story. Literotica is a fantasy world, where unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases don't exist. I'm a huge fan of incest stories and the lack of contraceptives only heightens the taboo.

It's a subjective thing, but for me condoms are a big 'no'.

 

[KeithD]

I think condom use can be used to add to the arousal in a story and I've used it to try to achieve that effect--primarily retrieving it and extracting and applying it while standing over the other, drawing out the anticipation of what is to come. Sort of a defining "yes, we are."

 

[SisterJezabel]

I think condom use can be used to add to the arousal in a story and I've used it to try to achieve that effect--primarily retrieving it and extracting and applying it while standing over the other, drawing out the anticipation of what is to come. Sort of a defining "yes, we are."

Very much this. I think both contraception and safe sex play a big part in many of my stories. You have reminded me though that I need to get onto my HepC eradication soapbox! Not sure if it is an essay or a how-to, so I think I'll let Laurel decide!

 

[SimonDoom]

I wrestle with this just a bit. I'm not personally a zealot either way. I see erotica stories as fantasy stories, so it seems perfectly legitimate to leave out safe sex practices. On the other hand, some acknowledgment of safe sex may give the story a needed dose of verisimilitude.

Although I'm not one of them, many Literotica readers really do get worked about the presence of little details in stories, and that's just the way it is. It won't go away no matter how much we rationalize their importance or nonimportance on these forums.

 

[Bigspurt]

Condom Placement

Experiment with the experience of placing a condom on an erection using only the mouth. I have had this done to me and it helps to make the experience sexier.

 

[JuanSeiszFitzHall]

Condom use can set up its absence later. In one of my stories, the woman and man have safe sex every time, but then they get extra excited in a shower, and moments after barebacking, they become aware of an anxiety they never had before.

 

[KeithD]

Condom use can set up its absence later. In one of my stories, the woman and man have safe sex every time, but then they get extra excited in a shower, and moments after barebacking, they become aware of an anxiety they never had before.

Yes, the transition from safe sex to barebacking can also be a story device to signal when a relationship has become fully committed.

 

[jennstar]

Hey I just wanted to chime in with a female perspective. As someone who doesn't love condoms, I think its hard to find it erotic when a man puts one on. Also, the risk in no condoms can be erotic until itself. Just having to take a penis inside of me without knowing if its safe or he will accidentally seed me. That sort of thing.

 

[AllTheBetterNamesWereTaken]

We need to go the whole hog with this.

Add exercise, adequate sleep, eat right, moderate alcohol, and include a lawyer to explain everyone's rights.

I know this is a joke, but I would totally read this.

 

[8letters]

As a reader realism, and how I accept it, depends on the genre. If you're writing mystery or a thriller or even horror real life things fit well, and to some extent veering to far from reality can be the distraction from enjoyment.

But I think erotica is a genre that very much extends and bends reality because its all fantasy. yes, many erotic scenarios happen in real life, but most are exaggerated greatly here, the written version of porn where all women are hot, guys studs, perfect bodies willing to do anything all that stuff.

So to have to deal with condoms or bring up birth control isn't something I prefer to see. Hey, at that point, maybe you can add her having her period and there's no sex in that chapter.

In many of my stories, birth control is discussed before the main characters have sex for the first time.

In my story My European Summer Vacation, Sinead gives the MMC a blow job and then:

Once I stopped cumming, Sinead stood up and started taking off her night shirt. "I'm on birth control," she said as the night shirt cleared her head, exposing her beautiful tits to my view. "So you don't have to worry about leaving anything behind in Europe."

That story is in the I/T Hall of Fame.

In my story My Sister Set Me Up on a Blind Date:

With that, she rose up on one side while grabbing my dick with her hand. She started to maneuver it to her hole.

"Stop it, Ashlynne! Stop it right now!" She let go of my dick. "We're brother and sister and that's one line we shouldn't cross."

Ashlynne lowered herself on to me. "But..."

"Are you on birth control? No way should we risk getting you pregnant."

My dick was sideways against Ashlynne instead of between her pussy lips. She leaned a little back so we could look each other in the face. We had been so close to fucking that I almost didn't stop her. But now, I could think clearly.

"I'm not on birth control. Mom would freak if she found out that I was on birth control. But I have a plan B pill in my purse."

Once they're done having sex, they discuss her taking the Plan B pill. Currently, that story has a 4.81 rating.

At the end of most of my stories, the characters are about to begin a long-term relationship. Birth control is a part of that relationship as they don't want kids right away.

On the other hand, I've never had a character use a condom in one of my stories. Condoms to me imply a one-time bout of casual sex. That's not the type of sex I want to write about.

 

[HappySpouse]

To echo a bunch of people, if you write what works for you, it will work for somebody else. And, to echo some others, I agree it depends on the story type. If it is a quick story intended only/mostly as masturbation fuel, keep reality at bay a bit more. If it’s an involved story with developed characters, then more reality can seep in without jarring anything

I like the suggestion of making the condom sexy by having it cause a level of sexual inhibition or some such method.

Perhaps some are in the same boat as me. I genuinely don’t know what sex with a condom feels like, so it is an instant disconnect. My suggestion for reaching people in that club with me is to describe the sensation of the condom itself (sexily) so we can stay more involved with the scene. I know I’ve seen that before and it made a difference.