Is no one "straight"?

[Kassiana]

Shanglan: someone starts singing "Horse with No Name."
--By even mentioning it, you’ve started it. You realize that, right? So the beatings must begin again. ::looks around for her riding crop:: Who the flock took my whip away? I have to smack a naughty horse with it!

Carson the Wise: let's all just talk about butt fucking, kay?
--Oh, Gods, yes! Once the person who stole my riding crop returns it.

What? A good ass-beating goes well with a good ass-screwing, no?

Things that Make you Go Gay:
1. Wizard of Oz memorabilia.
2. The homoerotic subtext of Batman and Robin.
3. Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street
4. Spam
5. Do it yourself brain surgery
6. Any church that isn’t a conservative Protestant fundamentalist Christian one.
7. Democrats.
8. Small bits of fuzz.

Any others?

 

[Kassiana]

It's just because I want to get you in my bed.
--Nah, you don’t. I’m a covers hog. You’ll end up naked, cold, and alone.

Besides, someone stole my riding crop. :: pouts::

I can change your mind
--Into what? Oo, can it be a pretty pink pony?

Sorry, channeling the idiot girls I hated in junior high and high school. Make my mind into a complete library of every book ever written instead, please … oh, crap … neigh! Neigh!

who has the chainsaw?
--Probably the bastard who took my riding crop. Now, who’s up for some mane brushing and fly swatting?

What is worse? Agreeing with Amicus or agreeing with Ayn Rynd
--Rand. Every time. Though not by much.

I'm just going to trot over this way and kick the crap out of the horse with no name, then grant the silly wishes of a few adolescent girls and go to bed in the barn. So there.

 

[rakastuja]

LOL

Last time I saw this thread in a forum and posted in it I thought I wont touch this subject even with the longest pole again...

I know that there are people who call themselves straight or gays and they get extremely angry if someone touches those labels. Personally I would get annoyed too if someone would define me as a bicurious hetero or unsure lesbian...

But still... if I look at the subject really objectically I must say that I cant believe into strict categories. Just think how many categories you can get from bisexuals - how can it be that homosexuals and heterosexuals would be such monolith categories? What if you would start dividing them to sub categories? From utterly heteros, "I have once think about same sex" -heteros, "I have seen dreams about" -heteros... to "I have jacked off in a same sex group and found it exciting" -heteros and so on. I think we would end up with a quite smooth slide from totally hetero to totally gay.

Calling everyone bisexuals is of course pretty radical - and provocative. And probably ment to be so by the caller.

But labels are labels. I think a label like "hetero", "gay" or "bisexual" tells more about what person wants us to see in her/himself than what s/he really is.

(I hate English for he-she... Finnish is neat - we do no difference between genders in words)

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: YO PEOPLES NEED TO EMBARASS MYSELF!

I have never treated homosexuals in a less-than-human manner... keep backpeddling.



Not always, wrong again.



I have a discomfort, however that discomfort doesn't lead me to "violently lash out at men who make homoerotic comments about" me. I have no idea where you're getting that. If you're going to sling shit, back it up.



I suppose I will when you stop doing it, sure.

Luc gave a quite sincere apology for things he said.

But you just managed to demonstrate how far your own head is stuck up your ass.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: YO PEOPLES NEED TO EMBARASS MYSELF!

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[rakastuja]

I forgot to write the resolution...

I think we would end up with a quite smooth slide from totally hetero to totally gay.

So if we would call only the extremes as hetero- and homosexual, we would end up having prolly 99.99% of population being at least somewhat bisexual.

But that label wouldnt tell much about people under it...

 

[sweetnpetite]

It's just because I want to get you in my bed.
--Nah, you don’t. I’m a covers hog. You’ll end up naked, cold, and alone.

I'll take all the covers off before you get here- so you have no place to hide.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Re: Re: Re: YO PEOPLES NEED TO EMBARASS MYSELF!

Originally posted by sweetsubsarahh
Luc gave a quite sincere apology for things he said.

But you just managed to demonstrate how far your own head is stuck up your ass.

Luc editorialized his apology, several times, with inaccuracy--at the least--and derogatory comments--at worst. Most notably the "violent" thing.

I think you're demonstrating, if we're to talk about demonstration now, a very bias and very intentional obfuscating of those facts.

 

[Honey123]

I believe that more women tend to be curious. I have been called "bi-curious" by someone who shall remain nameless ( cough...Vella...cough, cough.. ) and I do admit that I am curious. I have never indulged in a same sex relationship.

There is one person I know (male) who I would most definately do it for, but as long as he was in the same room with me. We have discussed it, but it has never come to fruition and probably will never. But it does make for a good fantasy.

I really don't care what sexual orientation a person prefers. If they are an asshole...they are an asshole, whether they are gay, bi or straight and I have no need for them.

I do not judge people, because I do not want to be judged myself.

 

[BlackShanglan]

--Into what? Oo, can it be a pretty pink pony?

(...)

neigh! Neigh!

She's a pretty pink pony? Someone find me that riding crop NOW!

*nuzzling up to pretty pony*

Don't worry sweet one, I will save you ... from the worst of it ...

Shanglan

 

[SlickTony]

We don't have a word for people who are sexually attracted to people of a different race (or actually, I think there is one- but it's out of usage)

I'm curious--what is that word?

When I worked for that non-profit I was working for from 2001 to 2003, I was surrounded by social workers. One of them was a very elegant black man, an unabashed leftist, he said he ran for mayor of New York in 1983, I forget what ticket he said he was on; I had a lot of respect for him. His wife was also a social worker, a white Jewish woman, and occasionally she'd come in and give programs, "trainings," as they were termed. The "trainings" were usually interesting and always welcomed as a nice break from work.

In the course of a training on diversity or something, she mentioned the "law of attraction," the theory that you tend to be sexually or romantically attracted to people who bear some resemblance to people you were close to as a kid. She described her father as dark-complected and hirsute, and surprise, surprise! her husband fitted that description pretty well.

WRT Ayn Rand, I don't think anybody who approaches her with anything like an open mind and gives her stuff a read ever completely recovers from it. I was a card-carrying Libertarian for about 10 years because of that. However, when I chewed over what she said about objectivism and artistic/aesthetic tastes, I reached for the saltcellar. Incidentally, her life was as messy as yours and mine. Messier, in fact, than mine.

 

[Liar]

I'm curious--what is that word?

Dude.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: YO PEOPLES NEED TO EMBARASS MYSELF!

Luc editorialized his apology, several times, with inaccuracy--at the least--and derogatory comments--at worst. Most notably the "violent" thing.

I think you're demonstrating, if we're to talk about demonstration now, a very bias and very intentional obfuscating of those facts.

Joe, the only thing I'm demonstrating, I'm afraid, is how I shouldn't post in annoyed haste.

BUT - if I were still angry, I believe the correct response to you would be, "Obfuscate This!" http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/zensiert/09.gif

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Re: Re: YO PEOPLES NEED TO EMBARASS MYSELF!

I have never treated homosexuals in a less-than-human manner... keep backpeddling.



Not always, wrong again.



I have a discomfort, however that discomfort doesn't lead me to "violently lash out at men who make homoerotic comments about" me. I have no idea where you're getting that. If you're going to sling shit, back it up.



I suppose I will when you stop doing it, sure.

As part of the gays fail to meet the social contract argument on the gay marriage thread:

I see the government as having a responsibility to intercede in those things in as much as it can make a reliable investment out of them.

In response to this quote: As I see it, the only reason to distinguish between a homosexual couple and a straight couple that has no intention/ability of reproducing, would be the premise that homosexuals are somehow lesser people who will be less of a benefit for society than the hetero one in general. If that is a notion the guv'ment stood by, then the guv'ment and me could agree to disagree. But the official stance from folks in charge is still that it's ok to be gay, and not ok to be discriminated because of it. Then the policy of denying them the legal benefits of civil union just doesn't make any sense.

You said:

Could be. I think that, yeah, the idea is that the relationship has no general benifit to the government.

These quotes of gays failing to provide any merit to the social contract despite multiple people giving hard reasons of this inaccuracy. You extended this into asking gays to prove why they are worthy in general leading to the exchange between you and Lucky where among your gaffes was your exchange:

I doubt very seriously you have a fraction of the interest invested in this topic that I do.


I doubt you have a fraction of the interest invested that I do. But those doubts are more or less a selfish mention and aren't going to be productive in the saying of them.

The whole callous exchange can be found at the bottom of this page:

https://forum.literotica.com/showth...ghlight=homosexuality Wordsworth&pagenumber=4

However, all of this is as I stated your style. You treat all humans as less-than-human for the purpose of allegory. Since it is not specially callous and since all of these tactics are used in the attempt to make a more innocent point, I apologized. It was not a case of unique mistreatment.

Similarily you have never once on this forum in a debate argued on the side of gay rights. You have often argued against them especially the right of legal marriage, which you have certain views about. Now you of course may disagree with me stating that the Right to Marry is not in truth a "Right" and thus my statement is bullshit. In deference to this predictable tendency I offer a banket apology.

The third I do not rescind. You said this:

Your dick is somewhere just between "thirty feet of greased razorblade" and "naked re-entry into the atmosphere".

to my man Bel in the circumstance I mentioned.

Unless you consider that somehow "nonviolent", I believe you are owing someone an apology.

And guess what, it's not me.

Well that's my piece. I offered my apologies to the slanders I made and backed up the accurate statements.

If you can't accept my correction for the slights I did make then que sara sara. And if you continue to slander me for it, again que sara sara.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

In the course of a training on diversity or something, she mentioned the "law of attraction," the theory that you tend to be sexually or romantically attracted to people who bear some resemblance to people you were close to as a kid. She described her father as dark-complected and hirsute, and surprise, surprise! her husband fitted that description pretty well.

And me, I always look for someone as different as my dad as possible.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Your dick is somewhere just between "thirty feet of greased razorblade" and "naked re-entry into the atmosphere".

Still, one has to admit - given that this is the author's hangout - that it's pretty impressive use of concrete imagery to drive home an abstract concept.

Shanglan

(Not to mention interesting choices of an immense phallic symbol and an image of nakedness. The phallus is even "greased.")

 

[Guest]

Still, one has to admit - given that this is the author's hangout - that it's pretty impressive use of concrete imagery to drive home an abstract concept.

Shanglan

(Not to mention interesting choices of an immense phallic symbol and an image of nakedness. The phallus is even "greased.")

I'm amazed he talked about another guy's dick.

 

[Kassiana]

I'll take all the covers off before you get here
--Then I'm not going. YOU can be cold and naked. I insist on being warm and covered up when I'm in bed.

She's a pretty pink pony? Someone find me that riding crop NOW! *nuzzling up to pretty pony* Don't worry sweet one, I will save you ... from the worst of it ...
--Sure, sure. Then you'll leave me with the flies eating my ass, and my tail too weak to flick them off.

 

[cantdog]

And me, I always look for someone as different as my dad as possible.

Hear, hear! Different from my Dad! This I can get behind.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Hear, hear! Different from my Dad! This I can get behind.

I really must go to bed if I am turning down straight lines like that one.

Shanglan

 

[SlickTony]

Actually, my husband has a few of my dad's best qualities. It was when I chose a man who had some of my mother's worst qualities that I got into trouble.

 

[gyrl]

How would you classify a female who is attracted to men, but enjoys fantasies about women, although making these fantasies into reality isn't appealing? I saw on a tv show once that women enjoy looking at other nude women in porn not so much because they are attracted to them, but because they like to imagine themselves in that woman's position/situation (no pun intended). ???

 

[sweetnpetite]

I'll take all the covers off before you get here
--Then I'm not going. YOU can be cold and naked. I insist on being warm and covered up when I'm in bed.

Oh I will keep you warm- and I'll cover you too

You are making this far to easy...

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Re: Re: Re: YO PEOPLES NEED TO EMBARASS MYSELF!

So, just so we're on the same page. You're clear and convincing reasons for your derogatory comments are:

That, with respect to conversations about governmental models, I wasn't advocating gay rights.

That talking about people objectively (as objects) is less-than-human.

That I've never specifically argued on the side of gay rights.

And that I joked with Belegnon with a witty comment about pain


...you realize, of course, that by these standards just about EVERYONE here is a mother fucker, right?

 

[sweetnpetite]

I'm curious--what is that word?

I have no idea- but I do know that there is a word for marrying outside of your race- and it used to be illegal. No-one ever uses that word anymore.