It's Time To Start Treating Mexico As A Hostile Foreign Power

[rainsol]

In 1848, the U.S. was this close to annexing all of Mexico, which the U.S. Army occupied at the time.

I can't say if that should count as a missed opportunity, or a dodged bullet.

We are lucky they decided against it

 

[Politruk]

We are lucky they decided against it

Well, it would make the whole immigration issue moot, now.

 

[Politruk]

The Cartels are controlling the upper reaches of the Mexican government and their military, so we will probably run into intransigence at every level.

They're not controlling Sheinbaum.

 

[Politruk]

Mexican cartels are firing on our Border Patrol and penetrating our border at will. They are asking for an armed response. We have the right to defend ourselves and our border with whatever force is necessary. Much more so than the borders of Ukraine.

We have no more business crossing the border without Mexico's permission to chase the cartels than General Pershing had crossing it to chase Pancho Villa.

See Pancho Villa Expedition.

 

[Politruk]

It’s Time To Start Treating Mexico Like A Hostile Foreign Power​

We’re never going to have peace and security on our southern border until we deal with the corrupt and criminal elements that run Mexico.

Sheinbaum ain't corrupt.

 

[Politruk]

Typical leftist morons don't know the difference between injecting one's country into foreign wars on the other side of the globe (giving away massive amounts of tax dollars in the process), and defending a nation's borders from hostile forces infiltrating the country with drugs, violence and massive flows of illegals intended to negatively impact the economy.

The immigrants are not weapons deployed by the Mexican government to harm the U.S. And the cartels are not "hostile forces," they are business enterprises.

 

[Lathanar1]

I always loved this logic. A fuckton of people are risking their lives to escape a horrible situation where they mostly just eke out an existence to come to America for a better life, all while hell bent on destroying their hopeful savior?

 

[Politruk]

I always loved this logic. A fuckton of people are risking their lives to escape a horrible situation where they mostly just eke out an existence to come to America for a better life, all while hell bent on destroying their hopeful savior?

A lot of idiots confuse immigration with invasion.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

It’s Time To Start Treating Mexico Like A Hostile Foreign Power​

We’re never going to have peace and security on our southern border until we deal with the corrupt and criminal elements that run Mexico.

By: John Daniel Davidson
January 30, 2025


Earlier this week, suspected Mexican drug cartel gunmen fired on U.S. Border Patrol agents in Texas, who fired back. This took place on a strip of land in the middle of the Rio Grande called Fronton Island, also known as “Cartel Island” because it was previously used as a staging area for cartel smuggling operations. Texas authorities took over the island as part of Gov. Greg Abbott’s Operation Lone Star and declared it Texas territory in November 2023.

The incident illustrates why it’s time to start treating Mexico as a hostile foreign power that represents a direct threat to the American homeland — not just for the way the Mexican state has facilitated and encouraged illegal immigration, but also because it has allowed the cartels to take control of vast swaths of Mexican territory, infiltrate the Mexican government at the highest levels, and carry out sophisticated operations on both sides of the Rio Grande.

Having just issued an executive order designating some of these cartels Foreign Terrorist Organizations and Specially Designated Global Terrorists, Trump should take the next step and begin military operations against them — inside Mexico. The president floated this idea five years ago, early in his first term, asking his military advisers about the possibility of launching missiles into Mexico to take our cartel drug labs. His advisers at the time dismissed the idea out of hand, but Trump’s instincts were right: If we want to control our southern border and stop the flow of illegal, deadly drugs into our country, we have to take the terrorist designation seriously and go to war with the cartels by taking the fight to them.

It’s not an outrageous or reckless idea. In early 2023, Reps. Dan Crenshaw and Mike Waltz, both military combat veterans, introduced legislation creating the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) to target Mexican drug cartels responsible for the fentanyl crisis at America’s southern border. The bill never went anywhere, just as previous Republican bills designating the cartels as terrorist organizations never went anywhere, but under the Biden administration it didn’t really matter. Biden was never going to do anything about the border, much less the cartels that control it.

Much more here: https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/30/its-time-to-start-treating-mexico-like-a-hostile-foreign-power/

It's long past time to lay down the law to Mexico.

I thought Trump was going to build a wall.

 

[Rightguide]

RC-135V Rivet Joint reconnaissance aircraft are now flying missions targeting Mexico. What does this mean? It means that every electronic emission, cell phone call, text message, will be detected, recorded, identified and geolocated. It's an electronic vacuum cleaner used to pinpoint people and or targets for further action.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

RC-135V Rivet Joint reconnaissance aircraft are now flying missions targeting Mexico. What does this mean? It means that every electronic emission, cell phone call, text message, will be detected, recorded, identified and geolocated. It's an electronic vacuum cleaner used to pinpoint people and or targets for further action.

Great practice for surveillance of the US in a few months eh?

 

[Politruk]

RC-135V Rivet Joint reconnaissance aircraft are now flying missions targeting Mexico. What does this mean? It means that every electronic emission, cell phone call, text message, will be detected, recorded, identified and geolocated. It's an electronic vacuum cleaner used to pinpoint people and or targets for further action.

What action could be taken, based on that, that would not be an act of war?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

There was no ultimatum in what I wrote.

If you think there is, then that's a YOU problem.

Ahahahaha, see this is why you are seen as one of the dumbest sons of bitches to ever walk the earth.

You are a complete imbecile, PDfile Peterson. I'm not just saying that, it's fact.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Rightguide wants the US to lose another war...lol

 

[RobDownSouth]

RC-135V Rivet Joint reconnaissance aircraft are now flying missions targeting Mexico. What does this mean? It means that every electronic emission, cell phone call, text message, will be detected, recorded, identified and geolocated. It's an electronic vacuum cleaner used to pinpoint people and or targets for further action.

Hey speaking of electronic vacuum cleaners and "pinpointing people and/or targets for further action", did you happen to hear what a little-known Lithuanian cell-phone advertising conglomerator got worldwide coverage for today?

This company offered to sell to the general public the exact locations and movements of all US military personnel in Europe for the past 30 days. Wanna know where the division artillery support platoon for the First Armored Division was deployed this month? We got that. Wanna know where the 101st Airborne did winter field exercises? We got that too! Troop strengths and everything!

What the actual fuck?

It seems today's modern soldiers have these things called cellphones and use these things called apps on their phones which use things known as ads in these apps to make them "free".

Lots of companies want to run English language advertisements on European cell networks and this Lithuanian company found their niche placing ads for a myriad of news and sports and especially games....and then they discovered that they could trace back the ads to determine what military base these ads were served on phones and tracked the locations of these phones over the course of a month.

Precise geolocation identifies specific military units along with the number of nearby English language cell phones nearby to get basic "troop strength".

Seems there are more than a few buyers eager to get this information. Available for monthly subscription and payment for this trove of data accepted in Dollars, Euros...and Rubles.

There is, of course, a simple solution to this problem. Secretary of Defense Tiny Pete Hegseth could simply order that no active duty military personnel stationed outside of the United States would be allowed to own or use a cellular phone, both on AND off duty. Problem solved, right?

Can you imagine what this order would do for troop morale? I suspect re-enlistment rates would crater.

 

[rgraham666]

It’s Time To Start Treating Mexico Like A Hostile Foreign Power​

We’re never going to have peace and security on our southern border until we deal with the corrupt and criminal elements that run Mexico.

So, when are you signing up? Will it be Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marines.

Oh, wait! You're a Russian intelligence asset. None of those will take you in. Maybe You can get Hegseth during a bender and he'll give you a waiver.

 

[rgraham666]

A lot of idiots confuse immigration with invasion.

Deliberately. Too many people have no sense of moral direction without an enemy. So conflating refugees with invaders fills that gap.

 

[Rightguide]

So, when are you signing up? Will it be Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marines.

Oh, wait! You're a Russian intelligence asset. None of those will take you in. Maybe You can get Hegseth during a bender and he'll give you a waiver.

Maybe you should take another one up the ass and suffer your whimpering war against manhood in silence.

 

[Rightguide]

Hey speaking of electronic vacuum cleaners and "pinpointing people and/or targets for further action", did you happen to hear what a little-known Lithuanian cell-phone advertising conglomerator got worldwide coverage for today?

This company offered to sell to the general public the exact locations and movements of all US military personnel in Europe for the past 30 days. Wanna know where the division artillery support platoon for the First Armored Division was deployed this month? We got that. Wanna know where the 101st Airborne did winter field exercises? We got that too! Troop strengths and everything!

What the actual fuck?

It seems today's modern soldiers have these things called cellphones and use these things called apps on their phones which use things known as ads in these apps to make them "free".

Lots of companies want to run English language advertisements on European cell networks and this Lithuanian company found their niche placing ads for a myriad of news and sports and especially games....and then they discovered that they could trace back the ads to determine what military base these ads were served on phones and tracked the locations of these phones over the course of a month.

Precise geolocation identifies specific military units along with the number of nearby English language cell phones nearby to get basic "troop strength".

Seems there are more than a few buyers eager to get this information. Available for monthly subscription and payment for this trove of data accepted in Dollars, Euros...and Rubles.

There is, of course, a simple solution to this problem. Secretary of Defense Tiny Pete Hegseth could simply order that no active duty military personnel stationed outside of the United States would be allowed to own or use a cellular phone, both on AND off duty. Problem solved, right?

Can you imagine what this order would do for troop morale? I suspect re-enlistment rates would crater.

You're right Rob it is a problem. We've fought wars without cellphones in history. We can do it again. Did you read about the Navy CPO's who smuggled a Starlink system aboard their ship so they could have Internet access? They were court-martialed. The following is what I came up with in a search:

The U.S. military enforces strict policies to prevent the use of mobile phones in operational areas to safeguard personnel and operations. Effective immediately, Defense Department personnel are prohibited from using geolocation features and functionality on government and nongovernment-issued devices, applications, and services while in locations designated as operational areas.

defense.gov


This policy aims to mitigate risks associated with location tracking, which can expose sensitive information about military movements and personnel. Even when location services are disabled, mobile devices can still transmit data that may inadvertently reveal a user's location. For instance, devices can collect metadata, such as the cell towers they connect to or GPS coordinates, which can be exploited to track movements.

realtyme.com


To further enhance security, the National Security Agency (NSA) has issued advisories urging users to disable location tracking features on their devices. This recommendation underscores the importance of protecting personal and operational data from potential adversaries.

sofrep.com


In summary, the U.S. military enforces a comprehensive policy prohibiting the use of geolocation features on mobile devices within operational areas to protect personnel and sensitive information from potential threats.

Recent Concerns Over Mobile Device Location Tracking

wired.com
This Ad-Tech Company Is Powering Surveillance of US Military Personnel
3 days ago

wired.com
Anyone Can Buy Data Tracking US Soldiers and Spies to Nuclear Vaults and Brothels in Germany

 

[Politruk]

What action could be taken, based on that, that would not be an act of war?

I repeat.

 

[Politruk]

The immigrants are not weapons deployed by the Mexican government to harm the U.S. And the cartels are not "hostile forces," they are business enterprises.

I repeat.

 

[rgraham666]

Maybe you should take another one up the ass and suffer your whimpering war against manhood in silence.

You didn't answer my question. Not that I expect you to.

I remember a book by Franz Von Mellenthin. He noted he could always tell the ones that would break first.

The loud, 'patriotic', 'Our enemies are weak', 'kill 'em all', would be the first to curl up in a ball sucking their thumbs. The quiet ones who just got on with the job would stick with it to the end.

You won't go and fight, and if you did you's be the first to break. Weakling.

 

[Politruk]

No post in this thread so far, including the OP, has made any case for treating Mexico as a hostile foreign power.

 

[Rightguide]

You didn't answer my question. Not that I expect you to.

I remember a book by Franz Von Mellenthin. He noted he could always tell the ones that would break first.

The loud, 'patriotic', 'Our enemies are weak', 'kill 'em all', would be the first to curl up in a ball sucking their thumbs. The quiet ones who just got on with the job would stick with it to the end.

You won't go and fight, and if you did you's be the first to break. Weakling.

I didn't answer your stupid question because it was accompanied by adolescent assumptions and groundless lies typical of a keyboard warrior who hasn't fought anything except himself in his bathroom mirror. Acting tough online is one way insecure individuals to mask their vulnerabilities by projecting strength or confidence they don't really have. Would you like me to diagnose your vulnerabilities in more detail?

 

[Politruk]

I didn't answer your stupid question because it was accompanied by adolescent assumptions and groundless lies typical of a keyboard warrior who hasn't fought anything except himself in his bathroom mirror. Acting tough online is one way insecure individuals to mask their vulnerabilities by projecting strength or confidence they don't really have. Would you like me to diagnose your vulnerabilities in more detail?

You say nothing there that doesn't apply to yourself.