Jailbait, were you ever?

[Luvkitty33]

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That makes sense to me.

Thank you Sometimes it's difficult to get what's in my mind to show up on the screen in a way that is coherent, lol.

 

[Betticus]

You mean from media? Yes. I do think it factors in. It sends the message that if you are not considered sexually viable you are not a female.

However, like I said, part of my drive was a desperation to be loved, and touched. I didn't really believe in love but this was a close as I could arrange to get. If they wanted me there was almost a feeling of wholeness and being loved. All of this was subconscious at that time. I treated them with respect and they did the same for me.

From the media yes but I really meant from the regular perverts that you girls encounter from a young age.

It seems to me that being in that "war zone" of assholes would spur more rapid maturity.

 

[Homburg]

That's because guys mature MUCH slower than women.

Guys mature?!?

That said, I've read articles that posit that part of the trend towards early sexualisation of young girls, at least in developed societies, is due in part to the amount of xenoestrogens present in water supply, food, etc. Xenoestrogens leech out of plastics into food and liquid, and thereby into our bodies, vastly increased soy consumption introduces xe's in the form of phytoestrogen, etc.

 

[midwestyankee]

Guys mature?!?

That said, I've read articles that posit that part of the trend towards early sexualisation of young girls, at least in developed societies, is due in part to the amount of xenoestrogens present in water supply, food, etc. Xenoestrogens leech out of plastics into food and liquid, and thereby into our bodies, vastly increased soy consumption introduces xe's in the form of phytoestrogen, etc.

I've also read that bovine growth hormones that get into milk play an important role in the early onset of puberty in young girls.

 

[Homburg]

I've also read that bovine growth hormones that get into milk play an important role in the early onset of puberty in young girls.

Exactly, as they dick with the sex hormone levels quite a bit.

I won't even go into how xenoestrogens affect young males. Suffice to say that we are as soy-free a house as I can make us without really going insane. I wish I could figure out how to ditch plastic a bit more. That's really tough these days.

 

[Betticus]

Exactly, as they dick with the sex hormone levels quite a bit.

I won't even go into how xenoestrogens affect young males. Suffice to say that we are as soy-free a house as I can make us without really going insane. I wish I could figure out how to ditch plastic a bit more. That's really tough these days.

Also, they say that the earlier a girl goes into puberty which is approaching the age of 6 now increases the risk of breast cancer. I have read up on soy and that is some truly scary shit.

Also corn as it is supposed to have a plant based defense that causes thyroid malfunction. Supposedly since the forties agribusiness has been using corn, soy and grain garbs to fatten animals. Also, they store the same compounds in their fat which we then eat so viola, America is now the fattest place on Earth.

They put the shit in everything too, even foods that you would think is all natural and healthy has soy or soy derived products. They warn parents to not feed babies soy based infant formulas.

It's all okay though if the vast majority of us drop fucking dead just at retirement but before we can collect any pension or social security benefits.

 

[graceanne]

Do you think that the sexual pressure put on girls from a young age is part of that early emotional maturity?

I wasn't allowed to watch much TV, so the media had nothing to do with it. I was more emotionally mature because I had to be. In some ways I've been an adult all my life. Before K I didn't even know how to have fun. My idea of a great night was a night in my room reading a book.

 

[graceanne]

From the media yes but I really meant from the regular perverts that you girls encounter from a young age.

It seems to me that being in that "war zone" of assholes would spur more rapid maturity.

I started developing at 8. By nine I was getting stares by older men, flirts, and full body hugs by men I barely knew. My mother was a paranoid mess, watching all those sickos. Yes, this made me a bit more mature. I was nine when my mom finally warned me about men wanting full body hugs.

 

[Betticus]

I started developing at 8. By nine I was getting stares by older men, flirts, and full body hugs by men I barely knew. My mother was a paranoid mess, watching all those sickos. Yes, this made me a bit more mature. I was nine when my mom finally warned me about men wanting full body hugs.

Want a nice warm chocolate chip cookie? Just come sit in my car lil girl and you can have three of em. Bring friends.

I'm trustworthy!

 

[Luvkitty33]

Also, they say that the earlier a girl goes into puberty which is approaching the age of 6 now increases the risk of breast cancer. I have read up on soy and that is some truly scary shit.

Also corn as it is supposed to have a plant based defense that causes thyroid malfunction. Supposedly since the forties agribusiness has been using corn, soy and grain garbs to fatten animals. Also, they store the same compounds in their fat which we then eat so viola, America is now the fattest place on Earth.

They put the shit in everything too, even foods that you would think is all natural and healthy has soy or soy derived products. They warn parents to not feed babies soy based infant formulas.

It's all okay though if the vast majority of us drop fucking dead just at retirement but before we can collect any pension or social security benefits.

What is bad about soy? I'm really curious because I LIVE on it!!! I'm a cereal fanatic, and I use soy milk on my cereal.

I also had no idea about corn being bad for thyroid issues. I take thyroid medication, and nobody has ever warned about corn.

It's almost impossible to be healthy!!!

 

[Homburg]

What is bad about soy? I'm really curious because I LIVE on it!!! I'm a cereal fanatic, and I use soy milk on my cereal.

Phytoestrogens, for one. As a woman, it's not quite so bad, but that assumes that your hormone levels are normal. There's also a number of other issues depending on how it is processed, prepared, etc. Mostly though, the problems I have with it revolve around exogenous estrogen. No thanks.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Yep

More to come later

 

[FurryFury]

I'm a life long veggie. I was raised on soy. I love it. And to be honest, I'm not now nor have I ever been fat. I'm no longer Twiggy but even though I want to lose some weight and tone up, I'm not fat.

*shrugs*

 

[graceanne]

Want a nice warm chocolate chip cookie? Just come sit in my car lil girl and you can have three of em. Bring friends.

I'm trustworthy!

I dunno. My mama says to stay away from strangers, and they don't get much stranger than you.

 

[graceanne]

Also, they say that the earlier a girl goes into puberty which is approaching the age of 6 now increases the risk of breast cancer. I have read up on soy and that is some truly scary shit.

Also corn as it is supposed to have a plant based defense that causes thyroid malfunction. Supposedly since the forties agribusiness has been using corn, soy and grain garbs to fatten animals. Also, they store the same compounds in their fat which we then eat so viola, America is now the fattest place on Earth.

They put the shit in everything too, even foods that you would think is all natural and healthy has soy or soy derived products. They warn parents to not feed babies soy based infant formulas.

It's all okay though if the vast majority of us drop fucking dead just at retirement but before we can collect any pension or social security benefits.

America is the fattest place on earth cause a lot of people eat proccessed foods, then sit on their asses watching television. The problem is scientists trying to find a way to allow American to blame it on something, or someone, else. And don't get me started on the standard american diet - it's no coincidence that the abbreviation for that is SAD.

 

[doveofserenity]

My first boyfriend and i were both underage, him 16, me 14. The sex was ok, looking back now. With all the fumbling of youngsters not truly having the finesse that we as adults do. But it was that relationship that got me to feeling there had to be more than just "fumbling" for me.

i got involved with my now deceased MasterB. when i was a late 16 year old. He was 22. We had petted and played around having regular "vanilla" sex for a few months before He even asked if i wanted to try BDSM.

He explained what it was all about, and had me read a lot of books before making any decision. He said that it was completely my decision, and wouldn't affect our relationship if i said no. And i believed Him.

But after reading all my "homework" (thats what i always called it) lol; it sounded very appealing. Something i really wanted to try, and with Him specifically; because i already knew the trust was there.

We started out slow and gently with Him just tying me up to the bed at times. That got me really going. Once in a while He would come out of the restroom and in a very firm, deep, sexy voice say "Kneel bitch". i would be on my knees before Him in a heartbeat. i can't help it, His deep voice and words just made me so hot and horny when He would call me that.

We progressed into different phases, especially the spankings and floggings slowly; to see if those were things i wanted to do and enjoy. They were!

He and i discussed some of O/our fantasies to each other, and would end up exploring each one at some time or another.

So personally, i don't see as where being underage or "jailbait" played a major part of who i am; because i was with someone else before Him. And once i was with Him, He took the time and explained and discussed things with me prior to doing them. And He gave me the choice to say yes or no.

 

[Betticus]

I'm a life long veggie. I was raised on soy. I love it. And to be honest, I'm not now nor have I ever been fat. I'm no longer Twiggy but even though I want to lose some weight and tone up, I'm not fat.

*shrugs*

Supposedly soy phytoestrogens have a propensity for getting stored in breast tissue and are supposed to be tied to breast cancer.

I'll see if I can locate some credible info.

 

[Exogenous]

Phytoestrogens, for one. As a woman, it's not quite so bad, but that assumes that your hormone levels are normal. There's also a number of other issues depending on how it is processed, prepared, etc. Mostly though, the problems I have with it revolve around exogenous estrogen. No thanks.

exogenous estrogen? Hmmm...my nick is "exogenous" and being female, yeah, I believe I do have some estrogen in me, somewhere.

Yes, I was jailbait. I was 17 when I met my ex, he was 35. I grew up around adults (my parents and their friends who were much, much older, even my brothers are 9 and 7 years older than me). I had friends my own age but more often than not I was in the company of adults. I was actually more comfortable around adults.

I don't think my May/December relationship harmed me. However, if I'd known then, what I know now, I would not have become involved with someone so much older than myself, at such a young age. I'm 47 and still prefer older men, but not necessarily 18 years older.

I have an 18 year old daughter and I was concerned about various outside influences as she grew up. Even though she's had crushes on a few boys, she has yet to have a steady beau. I don't think the boys in high school could quite figure her out as she was into dressing goth and has a passion for art (is quite a good sketch artist) and horse racing (the goth look is gone but she still wants to train race horses...not many guys her age who are interested in that particular sport).

She entered into puberty very early and I honestly believe that had a lot to do with hormones in milk and chicken. She doesn't eat beef or pork (hasn't eaten it from the time she was a toddler).

I don't believe she's been intimate with anyone yet. We are comfortable about talking about sex but with me being in the medical field she has a healthy concern about risk factors. As I listen carefully to her whenever we talk, I see a young woman who understands herself quite well and doesn't feel the peer pressure to have sex to prove anything. I am so grateful!

She has no idea of my personal lifestyle and sexual proclivities and I purposely don't talk to her about them. Guess I might be kind of old-fashioned, in some ways. While we can talk about sex in general, it's her call to make as to what she will prefer in her relationships. The one big influence I hope I've had with her is of respect and emapthy.

 

[FurryFury]

IMO, the pressure to have sex comes from our internal processes more than pressure from others.

Of course I was raised to be very different from most. It made my I don't have to do X factor very high with regards to peer pressure.

Not long ago I got an email warning me about hormones in walmart milk. This person claimed that they had checked it out and it wasn't a hoax. The site they credited, a well known site had the article as an example of a hoax so if that person actually check it out, they don't know much about just reading.

Anyway, it was supposed to cause month long and early bleeding as well as milk production in kids. Yeah. Right.

My kids grew up eating both meat of every sort and soy. Yes, they, like every kid I know hit puberty before I did. I'm not at all sure of any correlations that can be proven between hormones in meat or soy that lead to early puberty. Just because something seems logical or plausible doesn't mean it is absolutely true.

 

[graceanne]

my mom said, once, that of course it makes the lab rats fat, diabetic, or cancerous (whatever it is they're saying isnt' good for you at the time). If that's all you ate, it'd make you sick, and when they're testing lab rats that's all they feed them. Anything in large quantities is bad for you, no matter what it is.

 

[FurryFury]

my mom said, once, that of course it makes the lab rats fat, diabetic, or cancerous (whatever it is they're saying isnt' good for you at the time). If that's all you ate, it'd make you sick, and when they're testing lab rats that's all they feed them. Anything in large quantities is bad for you, no matter what it is.

I'd have to agree with that.

 

[graceanne]

I'd have to agree with that.

That was shortly after the studies that showed that aspertame gives you cancer. Mom was NOT about to give up her diet pop. lol

 

[Luvkitty33]

my mom said, once, that of course it makes the lab rats fat, diabetic, or cancerous (whatever it is they're saying isnt' good for you at the time). If that's all you ate, it'd make you sick, and when they're testing lab rats that's all they feed them. Anything in large quantities is bad for you, no matter what it is.

That's an excellent point! I never thought of it like that, but it certainly makes sense! Your mom is a smart woman.

 

[LittleJade]

I never actually dated a man that it was illegal for me to date... but when I was 18, I dated a 25 year old (was engaged to him) and when I was 19, I dated a 48 year old man.

I thank god, every day, that I dated the older man- we are still very close to this day. Our age never made any difficulties between us- we just.. GET each other, even now.

I think I gained a great deal by meeting this man..

 

[lushlucid]

honestly it doesn't mean much. statutory rape is about numerical age, not lack of consent. unless a girl's parents know and threaten to press charges, or there's a nasty break-up and the teen girl is trying to get payback, there isn't much to worry about. where i grew up it was commonplace for girls to be with men ten or more years older than themselves...it was a sign of "coolness" believe it or not.

13 and 24? I'm pretty sure that is either going to end up in a nasty break up or the parents finding out.

I just think that's disgusting. Over here 13 is just out of primary school "elementary school"