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I believe that a man showing kindness and respect to a submissive woman is not incompatible with sexual dominance. Unfortunately his kindness is not always well received or is mistaken for an inability to properly fulfill a dominant role.
I think a lot of the discussion comes out of the perception from all the garbage out there, porn, popular writing, etc, of a female dominant and the wimpy male sub that she abuses and humiliates (more on that in a second), or the male dominant with a female sub as an abusive asshole. It is filtered through a lot of prejudice, that is for sure.
There are subs who like that kind of thing, crave humiliation, being demeaned, etc (not my scene at all, I had enough humiliation growing up with my asshole family, thank you) and Dom/mes who get off on that, and that is fine, that is their relationship and I would hope underlying it there is respect and caring there. If you don't respect and care about your sub as a domme (or vice versa I will add) it isn't much of a relationship and honestly scares the crap out of me if there is't that respect and caring.
To me it is just about how the dynamic is expresssed. I had a friend, a lifestyle domme who I got to know originally through pro sessions, who said she got shit because when asking slaves to do things, she always said please and thank you, and was told that that "diminished her power"...it didn't, she had some incredible slaves, M and F, who would beg to differ, that dominance was all over their relationship. Thing is she didn't have to yell or demean them or 'appear angry' to have them obey or do what she wanted, she would look at one of them disappointed if they did something wrong and it was fucking amazing to watch how devastated they were.
Again, that doesn't mean someone who has a more 'forceful' dynamic is wrong if that is what works for them. I have met dominants I considered complete assholes who I woudn't go within a mile of, their treatment of subs was not underlying respectful it was an egotistical ass who had no clue what two way street meant, caring, etc (in other words, bad dominants, a not unknown phenomenon).
Lot of Dominants never use physical punishments (those are for play and reward, and not having it is punishment to them), they make clear what they want and expect being obeyed and if not being shunned or treated distantly does wonders for them.....Heck I know one domme who reminded me of Dinsdal Piranna in a Monty Python sketch, she used sarcasm and man was it effective
My problem is never with the form, mine is when people make statements like a dominant who is polite to a sub or talks to them as they would anyone else isn't really in control; someone who assumes to be in control you have to yell, scream and act like a tyrant is like a parent who thinks the same thing about raising kids is likely someone not very good at what they are doing IMO (someone whose style is "rough' would never criticize a dominant whose style is sublime/subdued, because they understand dominance is an art form with a zillion ways to make it work
Yea exactly. The submissive has to SUBMIT. Otherwise no amount of yelling is going to change a thing.