Los Angeles stands up to ICE

[icanhelp1]

Democrats in the nutshell.

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[dmallord]

Just a slight detour, here's a little advertisement, haha.

If I tell you that many netizens in mainland China are eager to see California secede or a second civil war in the United States, can you also understand that this is similar to how American netizens feel about the annexation of Canada or Greenland?

Interesting comparison, but there’s a difference. Talk of annexing Canada or Greenland mostly comes from the U.S. president and a few diehards—more bluster than belief. Wishing for a U.S. civil war feels like cheering for real suffering. Not quite the same energy. Silly, isn’t it?

It’s a bit like how some Americans react to saber-rattling over Taiwan—there’s a line between national ambition and provoking disaster.

 

[CambridgeBi]

So the only form of democracy you acknowledge is a direct democracy.

Got it

Or at very least an obligation to honour the manifesto on which they were elected and the electorate has the power to force a referendum on any contentious decisions.

 

[ll74]

Or at very least an obligation to honour the manifesto on which they were elected and the electorate has the power to force a referendum on any contentious decisions.

There are obligations of that sort. The enforces of those are the people.

 

[stxjimmy]

So what you and your leftist posse propose is that law enforcement should be picking and choosing where to enforce the law based on how people will react and not based on criminal violations or criminal statutes.

Why is it that the left insist on normalizing civil disobedience?

Are you, a trump trumpeter, reallly saying that. A couple of days ago you claimed ‘pubs had one bad day in DC.

 

[ll74]

Agreeing with buffalogurl is an interesting take

 

[Rotadom]

Really? That's your response?...youre weird and dumb? And you're probably still sucking on mommies boob. Buffalogurl is spot on. You're just being facetious and immature.

You're dumb and weird.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Faux democratic institutions are very much part of the Neo-Soviets modus operandi, the EU parliament being a prime example where the MEPs the electorate vote for don't even have the power to table any legislation, and the gullibles that support this nonsense have the temerity to claim that Brexiteers "didn't know what they were voting for"

So, in your completely irrelevant opinion, parliamentary democracy is not legitimised?
The fact that the European Parliament is weak, or that its competence is not so great, is what the Member States want. They want all states to have a right of veto, which is exercised by the European Council. Its members are also elected, because they are the governments of the EU member states.
I understand your anger at the EU. When you have a government, or have had governments, that blames the EU for its own stupidity, incompetence or wastefulness, and every British government since Margret Thatcher has done that, and at the same time the people are unwilling to inform themselves independently, then you have to believe this nonsense.
Shame you've gone, Welsh cheese is really good. Have fun rebuilding what Thatcher and her cronies destroyed. All that lovely money that flowed into your regions every year from the EU is sadly no longer there, as we all know London prefers to spend it on other things.
Fun fact: in every other EU country there is a small plaque ‘funded by the EU’ on countless schools, kindergartens, playgrounds, sports facilities, cultural institutions, etc., but not in your country. The money has flowed and was used for this until Brexit, only the plaques were only attached.....
Moron

 

[butters]

Nah, but it DID spread to Omaha, Nebraska…:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...ction-plant-omaha-dozens-detained-2025-06-11/

75-80 undocumented migrants detained at a meat packing plant. The employer pleaded ignorance, of course. He blamed “e-verify”.

Oops…



We. Told. Them. So.

to be fair, according to this link, they did depend upon e-verify and were confused when they were raided as they believed they'd done everything by the book. They were told that the e-verify system is 'broken'.

Chad Hartmann, president of the food packaging company, said the front office was stunned by the aggressive nature of federal officials’ raid and confused by why the company was targeted.

“My biggest issue is: Why us?” Hartmann said. “We do everything by the book.”

The plant uses E-Verify, the federal database used to check the immigration status of employees. When he said as much to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers who carried out the raid, they told him the E-Verify system “is broken.”

“I mean, what am I supposed to do with that?” Hartmann said. “This is your system, run by the government. And you’re raiding me because your system is broken?”

 

[eric_erosfan]

to be fair, according to this link, they did depend upon e-verify and were confused when they were raided as they believed they'd done everything by the book. They were told that the e-verify system is 'broken'.

Stupid gestapo ICE field personnel don't know if e-verify is broken. Grounds for firing and jail time it turns out he was lying.

 

[Lazaran]

to be fair, according to this link, they did depend upon e-verify and were confused when they were raided as they believed they'd done everything by the book. They were told that the e-verify system is 'broken'.

Yeah, I know. Convenient…



Regardless, my primary point was really about this being a national issue that will negatively affect all states and businesses (negatively affect the economy & established social / community structure).



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[butters]

Yeah, I know. Convenient…



Regardless, my primary point was really about this being a national issue that will negatively affect all states and businesses (negatively affect the economy & established social / community structure).



We. Told. Them. So.

indeed... imagine the issues all those meat, fruit&vegetable packing plants will face, impacting supply chains nationwide, impacting prices., impacting companies, workers and consumers alike.

 

[Lazaran]

Stupid gestapo ICE field personnel don't know if e-verify is broken. Grounds for firing and jail time it turns out he was lying.

Yeah, it did sound like the ICE agent was giving the employer a total pass with the wave of a magic wand…





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Lazaran]

indeed... imagine the issues all those meat, fruit&vegetable packing plants will face, impacting supply chains nationwide, impacting prices., impacting companies, workers and consumers alike.

The negative effects will be nation, state, and community wide.

Doing “big things” (immigration reform & deportations or a transition to green energy, etc) in a reckless / precipitous manner is a recipe for disaster.

President Biden had a balanced approach to doing “big things” (He had practice from passing the ACA), and his balanced approach had resulted in the negotiation of a solid BIPARTISAN immigration reform & border security bill that would have averted ALL of this disruption & destruction AND a steady & stable transition to green energy, etc.





Of course, DonOld & the MAGAt republicans SABOTAGED that bill, and here we are…





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[butters]

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has announced that the Texas National Guard will be deployed across the state to enforce "peace and order" ahead of expected protests, with a San Antonio police spokesperson telling Newsweek that troops have been sent to the city.

 

[ll74]

to be fair, according to this link, they did depend upon e-verify and were confused when they were raided as they believed they'd done everything by the book. They were told that the e-verify system is 'broken'.

The e verify system was never working.

They use it as an excuse as migrants do what is expected of them and then get fucked.

And this isn't a blue or red thing - both parties refuse to fix this shit.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

 

[jomar]

WHAT??? Minor??? I watched it live! It wasn't minor.

Throwing rocks at police cars driving by could legitimately be charged as high as attempted murder.

The thrust of the violent protests was centered on law enforcement, nothing minor about that.

So what you and your leftist posse propose is that law enforcement should be picking and choosing where to enforce the law based on how people will react and not based on criminal violations or criminal statutes.

Why is it that the left insist on normalizing civil disobedience?

Are you misunderstanding on purpose? I agree with you that burning cars, throwing rocks at cops, defacing property, breaking windows and into stores and stealing is really bad. And I hope they get all the pics and vids the need to arrest and convict the perpetrators. And I agree those are not minor acts.

But my use of minor, which you took out of context, because that’s your MO, was about scale. As in many, many more peaceful protesters than those basically rioting.

 

[icanhelp1]

Are you misunderstanding on purpose? I agree with you that burning cars, throwing rocks at cops, defacing property, breaking windows and into stores and stealing is really bad. And I hope they get all the pics and vids the need to arrest and convict the perpetrators. And I agree those are not minor acts.

But my use of minor, which you took out of context, because that’s your MO, was about scale. As in many, many more peaceful protesters than those basically rioting.

During the BLM riots the majority of protesters during the day were peaceful and at night the protest turned into riots, became uncontrollable. I know you think you can quantify people and their actions but you can't!. Even though a majority of people peacefully protesting it doesn't equate to less collateral damage. 2 billion dollars worth of damage and hundreds of small businesses were destroyed and several people killed. Large crowds afford cover for violence. Many protesters getting in the face of law enforcement should not be classified as peaceful. Taunting law enforcement is not peaceful. If 5,000 people peacefully protest and the city burns to the ground then those 5,000 aided their own demise. How many immigration enforcement actions in California were falsely categorized by lying media, described as innocent migrants being falsely detained when in reality convicted criminals were rounded up on criminal warrants. The lie spreads and riots happen.

Just listen to democrat leadership, they are promoting violence veiled in the old bumper sticker slogan 'democracy is crumbling'.

 

[Baztrachian]

Some of you want to blame Hillary Clinton for his death.

You don't care beyond that.

I am not invested in Hillary Clinton. But why then is the young man's assassination not being more deeply investigated?

The DC cops want to dismiss this as an attempted robbery.

The FBI however refuses to release the case files which is odd since this was just an attempted robbery, right?

https://uncoverdc.com/2025/03/06/sp...ion-to-continue-to-withhold-seth-rich-records

 

[Politruk]

Faux democratic institutions are very much part of the Neo-Soviets modus operandi, the EU parliament being a prime example where the MEPs the electorate vote for don't even have the power to table any legislation, and the gullibles that support this nonsense have the temerity to claim that Brexiteers "didn't know what they were voting for"

I don't support that arrangement, but there is nothing "Neo-Soviet" about it, nothing at all.

 

[Politruk]

I am not invested in Hillary Clinton. But why then is the young man's assassination not being more deeply investigated?

Because there is no reason to.

 

[ll74]

I am not invested in Hillary Clinton. But why then is the young man's assassination not being more deeply investigated?

The DC cops want to dismiss this as an attempted robbery.

It was fled as such. The investigation concluded that.

The FBI however refuses to release the case files which is odd since this was just an attempted robbery, right?

https://uncoverdc.com/2025/03/06/sp...ion-to-continue-to-withhold-seth-rich-records

The foia wasn't about his death, but about his records. He worked for the government and therefore those records may be classified.

 

[Politruk]

Why is it that the left insist on normalizing civil disobedience?

Civil disobedience has been normalized at least since the 1960s. Didn't you get the memo?

 

[Baztrachian]

Civil disobedience has been normalized at least since the 1960s. Didn't you get the memo?

Ah, so you're good with January 6th?