Noticed a nasty trend with the loving wives catagory

[Lifestyle66]

Because maybe splitting the category up to separate the cuckoldry stories from the swinging stories from the violent-cheating stories would increase readership further...? I mean, why change the status quo ever?

Well, ... as I indicated above in a previous post, ... I support the status quo, because I have fun jerking the chains of those LW readers with my stories!!!

Maybe it's because I'm not an overly sensitive whiner who must have only 5-star votes to validate my narrow-minded opinion of myself. Or maybe it's because an offensive anon comment like "EAT SHIT AND DIE!" is merely a handful of words to me and not viewed as an order to actually do it.

I'm having MY version of fun posting in that category. Why do YOU insist on trying to fuck it up?

 

[pink_silk_glove]

In case you failed to read my other posts in this thread, I'll reiterate it here: WHY should the Admins change anything to a category which has INCREASED their readership, merely to appease a few offended authors?

You have missed the point. It is not about a few offended authors. It is about site community. The site has rules for the community. No snuff, they will not foster that here. Absolutely no underage, they will not risk fostering an atmosphere of pedophilia. Yet they are have been complicit in fostering a culture of blatant misogyny in the Loving Wives category. We are talking about blatant misogyny to the point of not even being erotic. There is a significant sub-community in that category that is not there to be aroused in the slightest. They are there to see women get hurt. PERIOD. They are not here for quality prose nor storytelling and they are not here to get off sexually. They are here to see women pay for infidelity in the worst ways. PERIOD. This has absolutely nothing to do with erotica nor with literature - the two tenets of the site. In that sense, this sub-culture does not belong on the site.

Now I'm not for banning any of it. But what I am calling out is the site's double standard for not allowing pedophilia and not allowing snuff and not allowing bestiality, but being perfectly fine with blatant NON-EROTIC misogyny. Have you read some of these stories? I have. Cold, heartless, sociopathic, SEXLESS hate for women, and the crowd that loves these stories and trashes stories that don't follow this code. Why is it here and festering out of control? Because the site has allowed it to. They named the category poorly twenty years ago and have done NOTHING about it since. Good job. Laurel. : /

Again, it's not about the stories. It's about the culture that Laurel has nurtured. Kids and animals are off limits, but defile a woman any way you want, and let misogynistic bullies run the category.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

I'm having MY version of fun posting in that category. Why do YOU insist on trying to fuck it up?

And you being in the minority makes your stance even more selfish than his.

But I ask, how would renaming the category "fuck it up" for you?

Furthermore, how would sub-dividing the category "fuck it up" for you?

The crowd will still be there for you to taunt all the same. Just over time it can be contained.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Well, ... as I indicated above in a previous post, ... I support the status quo, because I have fun jerking the chains of those LW readers with my stories!!!

Great! Do you, girl.

Maybe it's because I'm not an overly sensitive whiner who must have only 5-star votes to validate my narrow-minded opinion of myself. Or maybe it's because an offensive anon comment like "EAT SHIT AND DIE!" is merely a handful of words to me and not viewed as an order to actually do it.

I'm having MY version of fun posting in that category. Why do YOU insist on trying to fuck it up?

Two things. The first is: I'm not insisting on anything, and I'm not sure how changing the name of the category to something like 'Infidelity' would ruing your fun. The second is that your version of fun basically just seems like trolling, which is inherently antisocial, hostile behavior. You're perfectly within your rights to post the stories you like as long as they stay within the rules, but other people are perfectly within their rights to express their views too.

 

[Lifestyle66]

And you being in the minority makes your stance even more selfish than his.

But I ask, how would renaming the category "fuck it up" for you?

Furthermore, how would sub-dividing the category "fuck it up" for you?

The crowd will still be there for you to taunt all the same. Just over time it can be contained.

OR ... You might just ignore that category and have your own fun elsewhere.

Have you paid anyone to do that WORK for you?

 

[Voboy]

Okay.

In case you failed to read my other posts in this thread, I'll reiterate it here: WHY should the Admins change anything to a category which has INCREASED their readership, merely to appease a few offended authors?

As authors, YOU can choose to post your stories elsewhere!


DO IT!

What's so hard to understand about that?

...why are you quite so defensive about this? There's no need to be a dick. This is supposedly about helping the OP, not indulging your own particular interests.

I am very clear what your position is. You needn't keep reiterating it, thanks.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

First, the idea that all category hopping stories "should have been placed" in Novellas is absurd. There is no guidance, no rule, no indication anywhere for a writer to come up with that hard and fast rule being suggested by some of you. It's just your opinion, not universally shared, now being proposed to a confused writer as something they should have known all along. Ridiculous.

That is like saying that any print book over 50,000 words must be considered a fiction novel.

The point that I, and believe others, have been trying to make is that a writer should know what genre their whole body of work resonates with the best, and put all the pieces in that category. If they can't settle on one category, then the most respectful thing to do for the readers is to place all the pieces in one of the "catch-all" categories, such as EC or N/N.

As I mentioned earlier, from the threads and posts that I have seen on the subject, category jumping is primarily a byproduct of impatience and a quest for immediate feedback from readers on an incomplete work in progress. Very few completed chapters stories end up in multiple categories because the "big picture" is much clearer at the time of publication.