Obama: Voter ID Laws Do Not Stop 'our Folks' From Voting

[Que]

What about that quote implies that President Obama is only representing "his folk"? Maybe you should try reading it again.

Maybe the part where "our" is a possessive?

 

[eyer]

Any reader who needs further evidence of President Obama racially pandering to voters...

...this Associate Press report suffices nicely:

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/10/...harptons-radio-show-to-pitch-for-black-votes/

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes I entertain the thought that he was representing all of us. At least as so far as we were represented at the time. He certainly wasn't leaving us out intentionally he was just talking about Americans as group.

Maybe the part where "our" is a possessive?

In a very specific context.

 

[Que]

In a very specific context.

At a minimum he was speaking of Democrat Party supportive voters and I think it is reasonable to infer from that specific context that he meant black, Democrat Party supportive voters.

I do not think that him knowing where his support comes from means that he does not consider himself as president of the entire nation including those that vehemently disagree with his ideology.

Any reader who needs further evidence of President Obama racially pandering to voters...

...this Associate Press report suffices nicely:

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/10/...harptons-radio-show-to-pitch-for-black-votes/

Edit: Now I don;t know which quote was what and where. Here it looks like "folks" are Democratic Congressman that would rather have an Ebola patient shoulder to shoulder with them on the stump than Obama.

Either way it annoys the crap out of me every time he says "folks" the way it SHOULD annoy "black folks" when Biden or Hillary try to talk black.

It sounds rehearsed as if he was told that "when you use "folks" it makes you more relate-able and less (as Biden puts it) like you have a Negro Dialect."

Not that he would have one. He grew up exposed to far less "Black Folks" than I had in my white-bread existence.

 

[Sean Renaud]

At a minimum he was speaking of Democrat Party supportive voters and I think it is reasonable to infer from that specific context that he meant black, Democrat Party supportive voters.

I do not think that him knowing where his support comes from means that he does not consider himself as president of the entire nation including those that vehemently disagree with his ideology.

I don't even think it's as broad as him knowing where his support comes from.

If he's talking to Al Sharpton and says "our people don't vote and voter ID doesn't stop them." It's no different from Michelle Obama saying "we need to raise our children to be something other than ballers and rappers" now the fact that it shows how fucking out of touch with the black experience as a whole would be a legit point to make but not that the general sentiment isn't a discussion worthy of having nor that it is one that is particularly relevant to other races at this particular junction.

 

[Que]

I don't even think it's as broad as him knowing where his support comes from.

If he's talking to Al Sharpton and says "our people don't vote and voter ID doesn't stop them." It's no different from Michelle Obama saying "we need to raise our children to be something other than ballers and rappers" now the fact that it shows how fucking out of touch with the black experience as a whole would be a legit point to make but not that the general sentiment isn't a discussion worthy of having nor that it is one that is particularly relevant to other races at this particular junction.

Fair point. I don't think he has to have had a background that would put him more in touch with the black experience for him to understand the things that might help that community in particular or the nation as a whole.

It is just sort of cognitively dissonant to have someone who looks like the community but is as out of touch with it as one would expect a white politician to be.

 

[phrodeau]

Maybe the part where "our" is a possessive?

If you used the word with a friend discussing a game "our team" won or lost, that doesn't mean you become a representative for that team. So, no.

 

[Que]

If you used the word with a friend discussing a game "our team" won or lost, that doesn't mean you become a representative for that team. So, no.

It does mean "fuck all other teams."

So, yes.

 

[phrodeau]

It does mean "fuck all other teams."

So, yes.

You're such an idiot.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not in this case it's not. In this case our folks clearly meant black folks and was a completely justified statement.



No. Blacks and whites are not in the same place in this country now and certainly not historically. Not that I know the specific quote where McKinley spoke about our folks and he probably was representing all of us at that particular moment.

Yes he is a victim if that is the word you choose. I don't love that hood but I do accept reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqnQ1YzohU

 

[Que]

You're such an idiot.

So I have heard. Thanks for taking the time to acknowledge me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqnQ1YzohU

Indeed.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fair point. I don't think he has to have had a background that would put him more in touch with the black experience for him to understand the things that might help that community in particular or the nation as a whole.

It is just sort of cognitively dissonant to have someone who looks like the community but is as out of touch with it as one would expect a white politician to be.

The nation as a whole and the black community are not the same thing. In the same way that pepperoni is not pizza. It is a part yes, and bad things for the pepperoni are bad for the pizza but that doesn't make them the same thing.

You DO need a background and being in touch with a community truly understand things that will help. There are lots of things that effect minorities in this country that just aren't the same if you're not one. I don't think anybody raises their kids to be rappers, that shit just happens and if your kid happens to have the kind of talent that might get him out of the hood you don't squash that shit. Same for sports. We can go into a lot more details about it you'd find if we ever got past the initial part of the conversation which is that the black experience in America is NOT the white one or is it the Hispanic or Asian one that I am quite critical of black culture as a whole. That's not to say things haven't been done to us and that we haven't been heavily neglected. You can claim all you want that drug laws aren't aimed at black people and am I saying that they don't have control over themselves and yadda yadda yadda. And I can say that's true, it doesn't say black people. We outlawed liquor once, amended the Constitution something that's VERY rare. Ten years of WHITE people going to jail and getting shot by the police and we reversed policy. Thirty years of blacks and Mexicans doing the same the near complete collapse of our southern neighbors and . . .well weed might be legal soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqnQ1YzohU

Do I tell you often that you're awesome?

 

[BotanyBoy]

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[Que]

The nation as a whole and the black community are not the same thing. In the same way that pepperoni is not pizza. It is a part yes, and bad things for the pepperoni are bad for the pizza but that doesn't make them the same thing.

You DO need a background and being in touch with a community truly understand things that will help. There are lots of things that effect minorities in this country that just aren't the same if you're not one. I don't think anybody raises their kids to be rappers, that shit just happens and if your kid happens to have the kind of talent that might get him out of the hood you don't squash that shit. Same for sports. We can go into a lot more details about it you'd find if we ever got past the initial part of the conversation which is that the black experience in America is NOT the white one or is it the Hispanic or Asian one that I am quite critical of black culture as a whole. That's not to say things haven't been done to us and that we haven't been heavily neglected. You can claim all you want that drug laws aren't aimed at black people and am I saying that they don't have control over themselves and yadda yadda yadda. And I can say that's true, it doesn't say black people. We outlawed liquor once, amended the Constitution something that's VERY rare. Ten years of WHITE people going to jail and getting shot by the police and we reversed policy. Thirty years of blacks and Mexicans doing the same the near complete collapse of our southern neighbors and . . .well weed might be legal soon.

That's why I had an 'or" in the sentence. Although it shoulda been "and/or." Some policies that might improve the economics of the entire nation would help that community (though not as quickly or as well) and some things would help the community, cost little and be of no particular (obvious) benefit to the entire nation. The second part s why those things don;t get done. The "right" people do not see a tangible benefit.

...although any improvement helps the nation. There is a lot of cost in money and human suffering that doesn't have to happen.

There is no question the War on drugs and mandatory minimum has resulted in ridiculous control by the state over, basically whoever they want to target on an individual level, and that that power has been focused on non-white offenders in a way you can't really even defend rationally.

When statistics are thrown up of such things as fatherless homes in the black community, it DOES need to remember that 30% of the fathers are locked up! White America is catching up in the rate of single mothers and does not even have that as a causation.

This latest prohibition is dying a slow and tortured death not specifically because of the impact it has on minority communities, nor because it has had a lesser effect on white communities. It is lingering because of the color green. Lots of Federal money for enforcement, and even more interesting to local PD's is the seizures without due process that goes along with RICO. They love that stuff. I forget the name of that kinda seizure but PD's have to spend the proceeds on law enforcement. Often one jurisdiction cannot spend it so the call another PD and say "He we are gonna RICO (whatever it's called) you in on this latest grab."