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Wanna bet?


Nicely done. :)


Sure I'll take you up on that bet. Meryl appeared only in the Pennsylvania shots. Most of the movie was filmed at the abandoned U.S. army commissary compound at Klong Toey at the Bangkok docks on the Chao Phraya River. Meryl (who I'd never heard of at the time) never stepped foot in Thailand (at least then; who knows whatall she's stepped in since then?). And the scenes were filmed so out of sequence that even though I was a script editor for it in addition to having a bit part that I never even knew it was an A movie until the Academy Award nominations were announced.
 
Sure I'll take you up on that bet. Meryl appeared only in the Pennsylvania shots. Most of the movie was filmed at the abandoned U.S. army commissary compound at Klong Toey at the Bangkok docks on the Chao Phraya River. Meryl (who I'd never heard of at the time) never stepped foot in Thailand (at least then; who knows whatall she's stepped in since then?). And the scenes were filmed so out of sequence that even though I was a script editor for it in addition to having a bit part that I never even knew it was an A movie until the Academy Award nominations were announced.

My bet comment was really sort of an "only I get it" reference to the Bangkok Walken Russian roulette scene. Anyway, I think it's pretty cool for you to have been part of that movie. It's an American classic.

I really enjoy the behind the scenes stuff, so thank you, sr. Truly.
 
My bet comment was really sort of an "only I get it" reference to the Bangkok Walken Russian roulette scene. Anyway, I think it's pretty cool for you to have been part of that movie. It's an American classic.

I really enjoy the behind the scenes stuff, so thank you, sr. Truly.

Ah, so. It was my first real movie (before that, it was the guy with the beach ball off to --fill in the blank Annette Funicello starlit's-- left shoulder in the beach scene). And the crusher was that I didn't realize it was a real movie--held out from watching it for years because it put me in a blue funk that I hadn't known it was for real.
 
I think I must be the only person in the world who's never read anything by King. I don't think I've even seen any movies based on his stories -- at least not all the way through.


That's a shame, really. I'm not going to go all out and say everything by him is amazing, but a lot of his work is really, really (<-- that would be in italics, if I knew how) good.
Pet Semetary was awesome and creepy. It brought me close to tears but that might also be because I have children that age.
The Stand was long, but I have the unedited version.
I also liked his Dark Tower series, but I only read the first three.

Pet Semetary, the movie was so awesome! The Green Mile was a great movie too.

Even if you don't like him, it's good to read some of his stuff so you can get a feel for it as a writer, at least, in my opinion.
 
That's a shame, really. I'm not going to go all out and say everything by him is amazing, but a lot of his work is really, really (<-- that would be in italics, if I knew how) good.
Pet Semetary was awesome and creepy. It brought me close to tears but that might also be because I have children that age.
The Stand was long, but I have the unedited version.
I also liked his Dark Tower series, but I only read the first three.

Pet Semetary, the movie was so awesome! The Green Mile was a great movie too.

Even if you don't like him, it's good to read some of his stuff so you can get a feel for it as a writer, at least, in my opinion.

The Shawshank redemption is one of my all time favorite movies and it has nothing to do with being a fan of his writing. My favorite King book has to be IT. It was the first of his novels I ever read and it still scares the crap out of me. Many people can't see past the horror elements in his writing to see the social commentary that his books are laced with.
 
I can't believe I forgot Shawshank! That really was a stellar movie.
To be honest, I've never had the balls to read IT and actually finish it...
 
The Stand, unedited is a bit longer than that! Still, 1100 is a LOT of pages!

I think I'll have to give IT a try again soon... I'll add it to my list.
For my new year's resolution a buddy of mine and I are reading 50 books in 52 weeks..
I'm a little behind, but I'll catch up soon.
 
I can't believe I forgot Shawshank! That really was a stellar movie.
To be honest, I've never had the balls to read IT and actually finish it...

Shawshank is a better book than IT. And a better movie than IT, too. :)
 
I think I must be the only person in the world who's never read anything by King. I don't think I've even seen any movies based on his stories -- at least not all the way through.

If you don't like his normal themes, you might try The Eyes of the Dragon. He says he wrote it for his daughter because "She made it clear that she loves me, but has very little interest in my vampires, ghoulies, and slushy crawling things." It's a well written fairy tale without his normal horror.
 
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The King book and Movie.....

"The Shining"

My wife had read the book (and loved it) when we went to the movie. It was great when the Hollarann character gets axed in the film.. my wife just freaked because that is where the plot diverged from the book and then she had no idea what would happen.

Excellent book, great adaptation and film.

-KC
 
I can't believe I forgot Shawshank! That really was a stellar movie.

Oh yeah, so I have seen at least one movie adaptation of his stuff. The srceenwriter William Goldman raves avout King in his (Goldman's) how-to books on screenwriting. Goldman wrote the screenplay for Misery. He also asserts that The Shawshank Redemption is one of the best screenplays he's ever read. Goldman's all-time favorite screenplay is Chinatown.


I think King's stories would not be gay, crazy or funny enough for me. They're basically yarns. But I can see from the praise he gets from fine writers that he must be a brilliant storyteller and great crafter of narrative.
 
Shawshank is taken from Different Seasons, a collection of four of King's novellas and which also includes The Body, later filmed as Stand By Me - another great film adaptation, and I'd recommend DS as a great starting point for anyone wanting to see how Stephen King writes.

It's interesting to see how many people mention IT, which at the time of publication King referred to as his Magnum Opus. In this admittedly long novel he demonstrates an uncanny knack of writing from the p.o.v. of children and manages to capture the essence of what it is like to be that age. Given that he can also write from the opposite end of the age spectrum (Insomnia is a good example), as well as just about every other age and character type in-between, he certainly counts as one of my favourite authors.

I'm not a fan of all his works and I feel that many of his recent novels have lacked something of the character-driven elements that made the earlier stuff so readable. Having said that, there's a copy of On Writing on the shelf above my head (note: not 'the old, pine shelf', just 'the shelf'), and I still flick through it occasionally to remind myself to check through my writing for unwanted adjectives and adverbs, among other things.
 
King is the first to admit he isnt a great anything. His success, he says, is his imagination.

King is very forthright about being stoned when he wrote some of his classics. He laments this in his WRITING book.

He's like Tom Clancy or John Grisham or Danielle Steele. They make fortunes but their books have no re-sale value. Theodore Dalrymple's books sell for $20 new and re-sell for $50-$150 ten years later.
 
I think King's son, Joe Hill, shows more promise than his father. He has the same kind of imagination, but coupled with a seriously good technique. His prose is also a lot more spare, which, for me, makes the imagery that much more compelling.

Perhaps he's read On Writing and taken some of the lessons to heart...
 
I always liked King best when he was short and to the point.

I like his Richard Bachman books better than most of his foot breaking tomes.
 
To answer the question of the OP, I don't read any books on 'how-to' write. I read great literature and try to learn from what the greats do/did. I'll never meet up to the standard they set, but they are the 'best,' so I take my tips from how they do it. To me, writing isn't about 'trying' to do it. It's about DOING IT and being willing to fail along the way and then learn from it and keep on DOING IT.
 
I always liked King best when he was short and to the point.

I like his Richard Bachman books better than most of his foot breaking tomes.

I'm the opposite in that respect. I'm not that fond of the Bachman books, except for Thinner.
 
Eyes of the Dragon was awesome too. I read that when I was younger but I think I'll revisit it because I remember being really impressed with it.

Carrie was neat, but I don't think I'd re-read it.
 
Eyes of the Dragon was awesome too. I read that when I was younger but I think I'll revisit it because I remember being really impressed with it.

Carrie was neat, but I don't think I'd re-read it.

Yeah Eyes of the Dragon is an excellent adventure story. Light entertaining reading.

Carrie is a lovely story, but being his first published story, it's more than a little rough around the edges.
 
Well, when I studied drawing I used books and instruction from real professionals to increase my fund of tools.

When I learned the sheet metal craft I used books and professionals, too.

Ditto for psychotherapy.

Ditto for auto mechanics.

Books and experts can zip you around much wasted effort and time.

But writers insist on shitting, then picking thru the turds for interesting lumps; and they have no goddamned idea how they got from eating to crapping.

Last night I read some how-to drool by a reputable authoress, and it was mostly nonsense. Like interviewing a florid schizophrenic...First be in rapport with God's asshole, then resonate with the wart on Mother Nature's tit, etc.
 
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CARRIE was a kewl story about a chick who collected brown stamps and redeemed them for a night of wholesale carnage and destruction. Her existential position is I'M NOT OKAY & YOURE NOT OKAY. Her game is NIGYSOB (now I've got you, son of a bitch). She's a teary-eyed sociopath who wears panties made from flour sacks.
 
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