personal fiction webpages

[talimenios]

I saw a couple people posting about possibly making webpages and I was curious on what people thought about having your OWN personal space, be it a blog or journal or webpage to host your own fiction. Do you worry that it's more likely to be ripped off or worry about keeping any anonymity?

 

[Guest]

I saw a couple people posting about possibly making webpages and I was curious on what people thought about having your OWN personal space, be it a blog or journal or webpage to host your own fiction. Do you worry that it's more likely to be ripped off or worry about keeping any anonymity?

I have my own website, Perverted Philez (website plug) and the only time I've had trouble was when I had a version of my stories in ftp format. I guess it's easier to steal than in html. Most everything I have on my website is already posted here on Literotica and jave their copyright time-stamped. As far as anonmity, I use ASSTR adult story webhost and use the same username as I do here on Literotica.

 

[lipsofanangel]

I saw a couple people posting about possibly making webpages and I was curious on what people thought about having your OWN personal space, be it a blog or journal or webpage to host your own fiction. Do you worry that it's more likely to be ripped off or worry about keeping any anonymity?

I want a webpage!

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

I want a webpage!

That's nice. But first, tell us the truth now, have you been a good fanangeler, lipso? (Sorry, honest. Forgive me. The devil made me do it. I couldn't resist. It'll never happen again, ever. I'll go away now.)

Rumple Foreskin

 

[SimonBrooke]

I have had my fiction on my personal website since 1995 at least; at one time one of my pages was the top hit that Alta Vista returned for the word 'cunt', which got me more attention than I really wanted! Most of my fiction is not erotica.

I think having it on my private website is actually pretty pointless, since it isn't much read; but that's where you'll find my non-erotic stuff.

 

[talimenios]

I want a webpage!

I'll build you one

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Get a PDF converter... it creates your files so they can't be copied and pasted. Yeah sure someone could sit and write it all out if they REALLY wanted to steal it... but it makes it harder

 

[lipsofanangel]

That's nice. But first, tell us the truth now, have you been a good fanangeler, lipso? (Sorry, honest. Forgive me. The devil made me do it. I couldn't resist. It'll never happen again, ever. I'll go away now.)

Rumple Foreskin

I'm always very, very good.

(Don't worry about it in the slightest! )

 

[impressive]

Get a PDF converter... it creates your files so they can't be copied and pasted. Yeah sure someone could sit and write it all out if they REALLY wanted to steal it... but it makes it harder

*shrug* They can still be saved to disk and emailed to the world. Nothing is foolproof.

If you're really, really determined, you can turn the text into an image (PDF > JPG) and then layer a clear GIF over top of it so that noone can right click to save it.

Oh, website plug: www.alessiabrio.com *grin*

 

[Selena_Kitt]

*shrug* They can still be saved to disk and emailed to the world. Nothing is foolproof.

If you're really, really determined, you can turn the text into an image (PDF > JPG) and then layer a clear GIF over top of it so that noone can right click to save it.

Oh, website plug: www.alessiabrio.com *grin*

There's also a little trick/code you can put in your html code that will prevent right clicking and saving... I have it on one of my pages... can't remember which one now... lol

 

[impressive]

There's also a little trick/code you can put in your html code that will prevent right clicking and saving... I have it on one of my pages... can't remember which one now... lol

When you find it, please send it to me!

 

[Vermilion]

I'd like a website or blog, but think I'll wait til (if) any of my work gets published first...

Am going to need a professional one soon. <digs out html book, flips through pages, then discards as she realises anything she does will look naff and amateurish> Might have to get someone else to do that for me
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[Selena_Kitt]

It's on my Selenakittyn page (see sig line) and the Stardust Angels page, too... If you go to right click, there's no option for "save as." (Of course there's the alt/print screen go-round)...

I'll go in and find the code for you Imp. I copied and pasted it from somewhere. My web site designer isn't on this laptop, it's on the mainframe, and that's ALL the way over there...

 

[Darkniciad]

Get a PDF converter... it creates your files so they can't be copied and pasted. Yeah sure someone could sit and write it all out if they REALLY wanted to steal it... but it makes it harder

Yuck... I despise PDF. That reader is the slowest, clunkiest, most crash-prone junk program I've ever seen. Having to open something in that is about as fun as jamming icepicks under a toenail or two Every one of their constant updates seems to make it worse too.

If it's posted online, someone can find it through google, click the "view as HTML" link, and copy/paste it too. The formatting will likely be buggered up a bit, but won't take that long to correct. I think there are a couple of programs creeping around that duplicate google's view as html function too.

The right-click script won't help if you allow the person to view the page in a full browser window. You have to pop-up a window with all the buttons, menus, addy bar, and everything else disabled, or they can just use those to view source and nab whatever you're trying to protect directly from its actual location on the server. You have to account for all the different types of browsers too, because the same code won't do this across all platforms.

Changing it over to an image will work to force them to type it, if they want to steal it, but damn - that will be one huge ( or series of huge ) image files, unless your story is really short. You have to use pretty high res ( and thus big file size ) to keep text from coming out looking like utter crap in an image.

The moral of this story, of course, is that a determined thief will get your stuff, no matter what you do. You can make it hard for them, or nearly impossible for the average computer-illiterate joe schmoe, but that's the best you can pull off.

 

[lipsofanangel]

I'd like a website or blog, but think I'll wait til (if) any of my work gets published first...

Am going to need a professional one soon. <digs out html book, flips through pages, then discards as she realises anything she does will look naff and amateurish> Might have to get someone else to do that for me
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*coughs* I happen to know that Talimenios makes incredible webpages. That's why I'm having her build me one!

 

[Vermilion]

*coughs* I happen to know that Talimenios makes incredible webpages. That's why I'm having her build me one!

<makes note to self to contact Talimenios when she's qualified>
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[talimenios]

<makes note to self to contact Talimenios when she's qualified>
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Heh I was gonna offer but she already offered me up

 

[rachlou]

Get a PDF converter... it creates your files so they can't be copied and pasted. Yeah sure someone could sit and write it all out if they REALLY wanted to steal it... but it makes it harder

hmmm there is software to convert PDF into WORD docs. Screws the format up sometimes, but fairly successful with straight text.

 

[Seamus123]

I do worry a little about having material stolen or keeping private things private, and having people find out more than I'd want them to, but I just keep an eye on it and try to relax my attitude a little. I have a new website because my careers advisor told me that some sort of personal outlet is good for an aspiring journalist. So I've now set up Mike Jennings.co.uk as a personal blog.

 

[SimonBrooke]

When you find it, please send it to me!

If you think these things work, you don't understand how HTTP works. Yes, you can use JS to tell browsers not to display the right button menu. But if the user switches JS off that won't work. Similarly, as you suggested above, if you layer images you can prevent the user of a graphical browser from selecting an underlying image...

But if the user isn't using a graphical browser it isn't going to work. This sort of thing only protects against naive users, and people stealing our content for commercial porn sites are anything but naive. Once your content has been copied via HTTP to the user's computer, you really don't have any control over what happens to it. PDF isn't foolproof; and even if it were, modern optical character recognition software is easily good enough to recover the text from a screendump.

 

[Vermilion]

Mind you, if you eliminate the naive amateur users, then it makes it easier to find the commercial thieves and do something about it, non?
Or am I being naive in thinking that?
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[Selena_Kitt]

If you think these things work, you don't understand how HTTP works. Yes, you can use JS to tell browsers not to display the right button menu. But if the user switches JS off that won't work. Similarly, as you suggested above, if you layer images you can prevent the user of a graphical browser from selecting an underlying image...

But if the user isn't using a graphical browser it isn't going to work. This sort of thing only protects against naive users, and people stealing our content for commercial porn sites are anything but naive. Once your content has been copied via HTTP to the user's computer, you really don't have any control over what happens to it. PDF isn't foolproof; and even if it were, modern optical character recognition software is easily good enough to recover the text from a screendump.

well then I guess we should just stop being so paranoid!

 

[SimonBrooke]

It's on my Selenakittyn page (see sig line) and the Stardust Angels page, too... If you go to right click, there's no option for "save as." (Of course there's the alt/print screen go-round)...

I'll go in and find the code for you Imp. I copied and pasted it from somewhere. My web site designer isn't on this laptop, it's on the mainframe, and that's ALL the way over there...

Sorry, Selena. It doesn't work; I've just downloaded the whole of your website:

-[simon]-> wget --mirror http://www.stardustangels.com/
--21:38:49-- http://www.stardustangels.com/
=> `www.stardustangels.com/index.html'
Resolving www.stardustangels.com... 66.244.252.85
Connecting to www.stardustangels.com|66.244.252.85|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]

[ <=> ] 57,800 49.54K/s

21:38:50 (49.44 KB/s) - `www.stardustangels.com/index.html' saved [57800]
...
FINISHED --21:39:22--
Downloaded: 921,599 bytes in 63 files

The technology of the Web was simply never designed to protect content like that, and it isn't possible. It stops the naive, yes - but the people you want to protect yourself against are not naive.