Question to editors...and writers

Should we create a "black list" thread of bad editors?

  • Fuck yes....it's about time.

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • NO, why...if the writers are not happy they just have to switch editors

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Hmm, I'm not sure what good it would do.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • I don't know. Who would decide who goes on that "black list" or not?

    Votes: 7 53.8%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
Slightly off topic .... but I don't remember this forum being quite so busy before. Was I just not paying attention?
 
RogueLurker said:
Well how about ... two known/Lit published authors. We can check whether they have stories posted or not.

We could also reserve the right to pull a name from the list if there are complaints/credibility issues.


Your idea is good...but what if the writer doesn't want to put his "seal of approval" on an editor. Not because the editor is not good or anything but just because the writer doesn't want to be responsible for the editor.
 
RogueLurker said:
Slightly off topic .... but I don't remember this forum being quite so busy before. Was I just not paying attention?

Oh you were paying attention don't worry. Ever since Jen took it upon herself to create the "Free association" thread the EF has been busy.
 
RogueLurker said:
Slightly off topic .... but I don't remember this forum being quite so busy before. Was I just not paying attention?
It's really picked up some. I've only started posting here very recently, for example. If you look at it, we're only a very small bunch of people conversing back and forth with each other.
 
LadyCibelle said:
Oh you were paying attention don't worry. Ever since Jen took it upon herself to create the "Free association" thread the EF has been busy.
Lol, I don't think that's the reason, but I think it may have helped a little. :)
 
fieryjen said:
It's really picked up some. I've only started posting here very recently, for example. If you look at it, we're only a very small bunch of people conversing back and forth with each other.


Yeah....I think the EF is scary for a lot of people. Not that I know why....or maybe I'm the one scaring people. :eek:
 
fieryjen said:
It's really picked up some. I've only started posting here very recently, for example. If you look at it, we're only a very small bunch of people conversing back and forth with each other.

It's kind of nice to see the forum is a bit more active... and I've appreciated the chance to talk/laugh with all of you.
 
fieryjen said:
Lol, I don't think that's the reason, but I think it may have helped a little. :)

A Little?????? You mean a whole fucking lot yeah!!!! :nana:

I don't remember if I ever thanked you. :rose:
 
LadyCibelle said:
Your idea is good...but what if the writer doesn't want to put his "seal of approval" on an editor. Not because the editor is not good or anything but just because the writer doesn't want to be responsible for the editor.

The author is going to be vouching for the editor ... just giving credence to the fact that they know how to edit, keep their promises within reason, and are not overly abusive or aggressive.

Most authors like working with their editors ... don't they? It shouldn't be that big a deal.

But I would also recomend new editors who haven't had a chance to build up alot of author relationships that a "probation period be set up". They get pulled if there is a valid complaint. I know that up until this Christmas, I wouldn't have had any references. Now I could probably get two or three. But I don't work with alot of authors.
 
LadyCibelle said:
Yeah....I think the EF is scary for a lot of people. Not that I know why....or maybe I'm the one scaring people. :eek:


Must be that hideous AV of yours. :cool:
 
LadyCibelle said:
A Little?????? You mean a whole fucking lot yeah!!!! :nana:

I don't remember if I ever thanked you. :rose:

I have to agree ... I would never have gotten my AV if I hadn't started hanging around here. The Word Association Thread has been a hoot. :)
 
LadyCibelle said:
A Little?????? You mean a whole fucking lot yeah!!!! :nana:

I don't remember if I ever thanked you. :rose:
Well thanks for, er... thanking me. :confused:

I like hanging out in this place as well. I've gotten a little sick of the drama going on in the AH (still like it overall, but I really need a break :( ). I still don't really consider myself an editor (well... a little more now, since I've actually edited a story :D), but it's comfortable here and I think it's too bad this forum has been so dead. I like it much better now.
 
RogueLurker said:
The author is going to be vouching for the editor ... just giving credence to the fact that they know how to edit, keep their promises within reason, and are not overly abusive or aggressive.

Most authors like working with their editors ... don't they? It shouldn't be that big a deal.

But I would also recomend new editors who haven't had a chance to build up alot of author relationships that a "probation period be set up". They get pulled if there is a valid complaint. I know that up until this Christmas, I wouldn't have had any references. Now I could probably get two or three. But I don't work with alot of authors.


Probation: Yeah it would be good if it was implemented on the Editor's list.....but how can we implement that on a green list created here on the EF?

We cannot force writers to work solely and only with editors on the green list.
 
fieryjen said:
Well thanks for, er... thanking me. :confused:

I like hanging out in this place as well. I've gotten a little sick of the drama going on in the AH (still like it overall, but I really need a break :( ). I still don't really consider myself an editor (well... a little more now, since I've actually edited a story :D), but it's comfortable here and I think it's too bad this forum has been so dead. I like it much better now.


I'll let you in on a little secret....you're an editor even if you hadn't edited anyone. You master the English language better than some who are native
English speaker.
 
LadyCibelle said:
Yeah....I think the EF is scary for a lot of people. Not that I know why....or maybe I'm the one scaring people. :eek:


That's how it goes...we use three or four people for heavy caliber weapons practice, and we're branded for life.
 
CopyCarver said:
That's how it goes...we use three or four people for heavy caliber weapons practice, and we're branded for life.

You don't consider yourself part of the scary bunch do you CC? I sure hope not! You're a sweetheart and not scary at all. :rose:
 
LadyCibelle said:
I'll let you in on a little secret....you're an editor even if you hadn't edited anyone. You master the English language better than some who are native
English speaker.
:kiss: :rose: :kiss:

Maybe I should create an editor profile some time...
 
fieryjen said:
:kiss: :rose: :kiss:

Maybe I should create an editor profile some time...

You should sweetie..you should! But, be prepared to give up some of your writing if you start editing as it can be a taxing job at times.
 
LadyCibelle said:
Probation: Yeah it would be good if it was implemented on the Editor's list.....but how can we implement that on a green list created here on the EF?

We cannot force writers to work solely and only with editors on the green list.

Ok ...here is how I see it.

A green list of editors is set up. This list is a voluntary list that established editors on Lit can sign up for. In order to get on the Green List, each editor must provide two author references (to be contacted or a note). These are strictly confidential ... noone will know who is providing which authors as a reference. Certain exceptions might be made for "seasoned" editors who are regulars on the board or are known for editing (LadyC, CopyCarver, Techsan, Cloudy, trying to think of other people are longstanding editors, but can't right now). I wouldn't include myself on the exception list since none of you really know me ... and I've been editing for four months. I'm not trying to play favourites here ... but its silly to ask LadyC for references when she's nominated for Editor of the Year ... and CC and Teschan arealways getting kudos from authors. This list is managed by one/two individuals who will act as "gatekeepers". Nobody but the gatekeeper can add/remove names from the list.

Next scenario ... I'm new to Lit and want to edit.
I can respond to the requests that come in through the board normally or thru the VE list and build up my own group of authors and then join the list with references.
Or
If I am able to post without too many typos so you'll give me a chance, I can ask for probationary status. That means I get added to the list, but if there are complaints, I'm off.

The Gatekeeper is going to have ultimate authority to remove names from the list as well .... established or not. So if something happens and someone who checks out at first turns out to have problems with authors, then they can be removed.
 
LadyCibelle said:
You should sweetie..you should! But, be prepared to give up some of your writing if you start editing as it can be a taxing job at times.
I know that... why do you think I say thank you so much :) :kiss:
 
I don't think it's necessary to get those exceptions involved though. I don't think it would be a problem for either of them to get the necessary references, so why create something that may lead to complaining? (as everything always does :rolleyes: )
 
RogueLurker said:
Ok ...here is how I see it.

A green list of editors is set up. This list is a voluntary list that established editors on Lit can sign up for. In order to get on the Green List, each editor must provide two author references (to be contacted or a note). These are strictly confidential ... noone will know who is providing which authors as a reference. Certain exceptions might be made for "seasoned" editors who are regulars on the board or are known for editing (LadyC, CopyCarver, Techsan, Cloudy, trying to think of other people are longstanding editors, but can't right now). I wouldn't include myself on the exception list since none of you really know me ... and I've been editing for four months. I'm not trying to play favourites here ... but its silly to ask LadyC for references when she's nominated for Editor of the Year ... and CC and Teschan arealways getting kudos from authors. This list is managed by one/two individuals who will act as "gatekeepers". Nobody but the gatekeeper can add/remove names from the list.

Next scenario ... I'm new to Lit and want to edit.
I can respond to the requests that come in through the board normally or thru the VE list and build up my own group of authors and then join the list with references.
Or
If I am able to post without too many typos so you'll give me a chance, I can ask for probationary status. That means I get added to the list, but if there are complaints, I'm off.

The Gatekeeper is going to have ultimate authority to remove names from the list as well .... established or not. So if something happens and someone who checks out at first turns out to have problems with authors, then they can be removed.

Rogue?

You know what? I love you too!!! :kiss:

I absolutely adore that idea!!!! :D
 
fieryjen said:
I don't think it's necessary to get those exceptions involved though. I don't think it would be a problem for either of them to get the necessary references, so why create something that may lead to complaining? (as everything always does :rolleyes: )


Yup, you're right...no exception for anyone.

One thing though, I'm the only Mod here so every request will have to come to me.
 
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