Reminder about what AH should be about

Preparing a workshop of 8 classes worth of art for a group of fashion design students who don't have the skills to draw. It's been a while since the last time I taught art instead of music. That's pretty much where my journey as a teacher begun. Art and photography.

Talking about, talking about writing, what are you are working on that you're not working on to play here?
 
Hey,

Where have you been? New gig taking up your time?
Well, yeah, plus moving countries, learning a new language, those sorts of things. But I'm writing too. My upcoming April Fools' story is an anti-incest story, featuring twins that nobody in their right minds would want to be have sex with.
 
I feel like bumping some of the great threads from the past that I (as Sub Joe) started decades ago, that were only tangentially related to erotic writing.

The AH threads now are way too earnest and fixated on the mechanics of scoring, voting and the "craft" of writing. There used to be at least one or two posts a week with topics that inspired creative thought.

We should talking more about the real world here. It's a lot more interesting than voting scores and strory structure to me.

And I don't mean descending into political spats, of course.
 
I feel like bumping some of the great threads from the past that I (as Sub Joe) started decades ago, that were only tangentially related to erotic writing.

The AH threads now are way too earnest and fixated on the mechanics of scoring, voting and the "craft" of writing. There used to be at least one or two posts a week with topics that inspired creative thought.

We should talking more about the real world here. It's a lot more interesting than voting scores and strory structure to me.

And I don't mean descending into political spats, of course.
Good luck with that. Nothing that happens in the real world isn't political nowadays.
 
"A place for writers and readers to socialize and discuss the craft of writing." [emphasis mine]

Everyone is free to post and respond as they wish but personally I'd like to see more posts and responses actually discussing writing and the related topic of submitting works to Literotica, rather than seemingly-endless threads where the same 2-5 people are doing nothing but telling each other how much the other person sucks and each of them trying to get in the last word/post.

A reminder that you can ignore whichever members you want to, for any reason that you want to. I recommend that over endless hate-filled responses. You are not obligated to participate in someone's online little soap opera.

Lastly -- and I struggle with this myself and I strive to be better -- when disagreeing with someone, don't make it personal. Most people here are good about that but not everyone. And if you really dislike another person, remember to ignore instead of respond.
Isn't part of discussing the craft of writing offering advice?

Sometimes that advice can be things as simple as, "Worry about the things that you can control" [rejections], "Be Patient" [a delay in publishing], "You're focusing on the wrong things" [fixation on ratings].

People too frequently offer advice without it being solicited. People also reject advice that doesn't meet their agenda. Both of these is where I see the majority of the threads here going off the tracks.
 
The constant attempts by some to gatekeep and control the narrative in AH is just as bad as watching arguments play out.

It's akin to the country club members not wanting "certain types" to be allowed in the club.

If socializing between readers and writers was intended to be excluded, it wouldn't be in the forum description.

The common sense solution would be to stay out of threads with topics that you don't like, or click away as soon as arguments or things you find upsetting, happen.

Voluntarily engaging in a thread, then crying about what you found there and trying to shut down discussions, is inappropriate.
 
I take a more liberal, permissive view. I'm glad this forum allows and encourages discussion about an extremely wide variety of topics, some of which has little to do with the "craft of writing." The breadth of the subject matter that is discussed here makes it a more interesting and more fun community, and allows us to get to know one another better, in a way.

I agree with some that there has been an unhealthy trend toward discussing the mechanics of the site rather than the mechanics of writing. I'd like to see this forum move away from that.
 
I'd advise you to stop making such broad, unsported observations about your fellow dwellers. I mean, to give advice, free of charge, gratis as it were, is a rare bird to be cherished, held to your breasts, until you snuff out its life with a smothering hug, don't you think? If they don't give us that advise, we can't just murder them. :p
People too frequently offer advice without it being solicited. People also reject advice that doesn't meet their agenda. Both of these is where I see the majority of the threads here going off the tracks.
 
I'd advise you to stop making such broad, unsported observations about your fellow dwellers. I mean, to give advice, free of charge, gratis as it were, is a rare bird to be cherished, held to your breasts, until you snuff out its life with a smothering hug, don't you think? If they don't give us that advise, we can't just murder them. :p
I have no problem with advice, and provide it myself. I believe that providing considerate advice is a mainstay of this forum.

The point that I was trying to make is that by sometimes offering advice when none is asked for can lead to the "off-the-rails" reactions from some people. They come to voice a complaint or a concern and get bombarded with advice that is neither wanted or sometimes even relevant to their discussion topic.

A cursory review of some recent threads here will support this very fact.

Please, offer advice. Just consider whether it the poster seeking it or your own agenda that motivates you to provide it.
 
And I gave you the off-rail reaction I'd want to do when that happens! It was a joke, but so much that doesn't pass through my head at times.
I have no problem with advice, and provide it myself. I believe that providing considerate advice is a mainstay of this forum.

The point that I was trying to make is that by sometimes offering advice when none is asked for can lead to the "off-the-rails" reactions from some people. They come to voice a complaint or a concern and get bombarded with advice that is neither wanted or sometimes even relevant to their discussion topic.

A cursory review of some recent threads here will support this very fact.

Please, offer advice. Just consider whether it the poster seeking it or your own agenda that motivates you to provide it.
 
I've been involved with internet forums since the dial-up days and in that time I've learned that forum squabblers are gonna squabble and that's that. What I make sure is that I don't let it pull me into the scrum.
If I post soething and someone disagrees, I do not respond. There's no need to defend my position, because I'm not going to change anyones mind, nor they mine. You don't agree with my position. Cool. Rock on. Catch you next thread.

This is my responce now at 57 years old. It may take folks longer to get there or they won't at all.
 
I have no problem with advice, and provide it myself. I believe that providing considerate advice is a mainstay of this forum.

The point that I was trying to make is that by sometimes offering advice when none is asked for can lead to the "off-the-rails" reactions from some people. They come to voice a complaint or a concern and get bombarded with advice that is neither wanted or sometimes even relevant to their discussion topic.

A cursory review of some recent threads here will support this very fact.

Please, offer advice. Just consider whether it the poster seeking it or your own agenda that motivates you to provide it.
Aren’t you offering unsolicited advice here?
 
If I post soething and someone disagrees, I do not respond.
So you never get into a back and forth where you progressively refine your understandings of what each of you intend? And then, when you've discovered the nub of difference, you can agree to disagree? Like.... conversation?
 
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