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That would be a good ticket!McCain/Obama. that doesn't make it the be-all end-all of politics.
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That would be a good ticket!McCain/Obama. that doesn't make it the be-all end-all of politics.
You said it's not an important issue yet of all the issues on the board in this election that is the deciding one for you. That makes it kind of important.
And, I don't really give a fuck. Just making conversation.
kind of. indeed.
Richard daily:
Like others, I think your arguements are kind of contradictory. At what point do you consider a fetus something that is ok to terminate if the woman so chooses? You make the arguement that if it can't survive on it's own without the mother then it is ok to abort. Does that mean that at some point before birth you would be against abortion? What point is this? Just recently, in the last couple of years, a fetus was taken from the mother, (can't remember the circumstances) which was about the size of a 12 oz Coke can (or was that Pepsi?) and it survived without the mother (yes, it was hooked up to all sorts of machines, etc.). Would you be willing to admit abortions shouldn't be done when a baby reached that size or do you literally mean that the fetus would have to be able to survive on it's own with no help? If that is the case how do you feel about small babies which have been born, say under 4 years old, should would be able to terminate them if they can't live without the mother?
What also makes no sense in his argument isRichard daily:
Like others, I think your arguements are kind of contradictory.?
A child that SURVIVES an abortion, LATE TERM ABORTION, and is BORN ALIVE, the doctors are PROHIBITED from helping the child live, but the child must be put in a closet to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When confronted with THIS, BAM, said that it was a LIE, and he never voted for that bill, only to have his campaign acknowledge that he did
I don't think that's what BAM said. However, I read some of his quotes from hearings and he sounded - well, confused more than anything. Like he was trying to grasp what others were saying and couldn't quite get a handle on it.
BAM called those that said he VOTED for that law
LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They werent, he was the LIAR
He VOTED TO LET BABIES DIE
Because as DICK DAILY says
THAT PROGRESSIVE!
I see
Its an ELECTIVE to put a NEWBORN in a CLOSET to DIE?
Why did he vote to KILL BABIES?
Why did he call those that pointed this out................LIARS????????????????
I don't know why he lied, and I can't find that thing I was reading. He said that he assumed that if a baby was alive that the Dr. would automatically save it, that it didn't need to be a law so he voted against it.
Like I said, he sounded confused.
ASSUMED???????????????
A lawmaker ASSUMES?????????
And DOESNT CLARIFY??????????????
And he is running for PRESIDENT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Exactly. Frightening isn't it?
I found this, it's not the same thing I had before but the Obama quotes are the same.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/...-babies/?icid=100214839x1207866733x1200449862
They can Google any unique line in the quote, especially the first one. It's conformable.
Richard daily:
Like others, I think your arguements are kind of contradictory. At what point do you consider a fetus something that is ok to terminate if the woman so chooses? You make the arguement that if it can't survive on it's own without the mother then it is ok to abort. Does that mean that at some point before birth you would be against abortion? What point is this? Just recently, in the last couple of years, a fetus was taken from the mother, (can't remember the circumstances) which was about the size of a 12 oz Coke can (or was that Pepsi?) and it survived without the mother (yes, it was hooked up to all sorts of machines, etc.). Would you be willing to admit abortions shouldn't be done when a baby reached that size or do you literally mean that the fetus would have to be able to survive on it's own with no help? If that is the case how do you feel about small babies which have been born, say under 2 years old, should we be able to terminate them if they can't live without the mother, or is it ok if we used other means to keep them alive?