So it was the Russians that allowed Trump to win??

I see a purge coming

The possible purge would probably be the subject of another thread, but note who is standing second in line to the Presidency.

The last major purge took place with Nixon, but with that one, Vice President Spiro Agnew had already been sent down the road due to his own unsuitability for the job.
 
You must be willfully blind to not see the beef between Clinton and Putin.

All speculation aside it's blatantly obvious those two were looking for a fight.
The majority of one is not very convincing.
 
The majority of one is not very convincing.

It's not a majority of one you imbecile.

During the election Putin flat out said if we elect Clinton there will be war and she told him to bring it if he had a pair.
 
Well that's not quite the point, Mr. Patriot. Or are you ok with Russia meddling in our elections?

IWell I can't blame them.

Business with Trump or war with Clinton....I would have backed Trump if I were Russian too.

And yet you're perfectly fine with Putin.


That's what the left is, government control, authority, force of government over the individual.
 
They didn't meddle in our elections.



Putin isn't in my food chain, I don't care what he does in Russia, that's a Russia/Putin problem and none of my fuckin' bidnizz.



Everything not pro Clinton is fake news!!
Tell me that you honestly believe the Russians worked their asses off to influence the US election, in order to avoid a world war.
 
Tell me that you honestly believe the Russians worked their asses off to influence the US election, in order to avoid a world war.

How did they influence the US election?

Point out this heinous crime against our democratic process that they committed.
 
Well, ok then, if you say so (Snort, Pizzagate)

Putin better get on your radar, dude

They didn't meddle in our elections.

Putin isn't in my food chain, I don't care what he does in Russia, that's a Russia/Putin problem and none of my fuckin' bidnizz.

Everything not pro Clinton is fake news!!
 
I said meddle. I have no idea if it influenced, or how. And you have the same evidence anyone has for saying with utter certainty that he didnt.

Still begs the question. If you support his choice to back Trump are you ok with Russia meddling in our elections?


You can't even say how they influenced our election much less provide any evidence that they have.

Just saying it doesn't make it so.



Why?

Is he running the USA? California?? Humboldt County???:confused:
 
I said meddle.

Close enough.

I have no idea if it influenced, or how.

Oh so you're totally full of shit and this whole discussion is about a big "what if" fantasy for the ride or (D)ie Clintonistas.

Thought so.

And you have the same evidence anyone has for saying with utter certainty that he didnt.

Yea, there is no evidence that he did.

So far from what I can tell it's nothing more than a bunch of speculation and roomers.

Still begs the question. If you support his choice to back Trump are you ok with Russia meddling in our elections?

I support everyone's choice to back whoever they want.

Sure, they've been doing it since the 70's and (D)'s never had a problem when Russia was supporting them. They don't mind Saudi Arabia doing it.....anything goes as long as it's for (D).

So you know what? Fuck it (R)'s should do the same thing.....
 
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Regardless of which candidate you supported or which flavor of propaganda you prefer, if you're a US citizen you should be concerned that we had two steaming piles of shit to choose from.

If you're a US citizen you should be as concerned about the real threat to the second amendment as you were for the imagined threat to the second amendment. The fist thing the big cheeto did was to call in the heads of the media for face to face threat.
 
Am I right there at the controls of cyber security? Am I a CIA operative? No, and neither are you.

If that's your beef, we can't talk about shit, ever.

No, as I said, MEDDLE, not necessarily INFLUENCE.

WEll you can lump me together with McCain and MacConnell those die hard Hillary supporters disturbed by intelligence reports and wanting hearings. It's a bipartisan issue, Mr. McConnell himself said so.

Whatev; you can just believe Herr Gropenhopf's tweets. Donald said he thinks it's garbage, so by all means keep drinking that Kool Aid.

It's rumor, not roomer.

There's plenty of evidence. Unless you're drinking Trump's Kool Aid and you now disavow the intelligence agencies of the U.S. by all means, keep doing that.


QUOTE=BotanyBoy;82458024]Close enough.

Oh so you're totally full of shit and this whole discussion is about a big "what if" fantasy for the ride or (D)ie Clintonistas.

Thought so.



Yea, there is no evidence that he did.

So far from what I can tell it's nothing more than a bunch of speculation and roomers.



I support everyone's choice to back whoever they want.

Sure, they've been doing it since the 70's and (D)'s never had a problem when Russia was supporting them. They don't mind Saudi Arabia doing it.....anything goes as long as it's for (D).

So you know what? Fuck it (R)'s should do the same thing.....[/QUOTE]
 

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If you're a US citizen you should be as concerned about the real threat to the second amendment as you were for the imagined threat to the second amendment.

So wanting to ban guns isn't a real threat against my 2A rights but Trump calling the media in to tell them they can all lick his butt hole is a threat I should be worried about.

Right.....I'll be taking THAT seriously. :rolleyes:

Am I right there at the controls of cyber security? Am I a CIA operative? No,

So you FINALLY admit you don't have anything and you never had a problem with these activities until Trump.

No problem with foreign donations and support for (D) though!! THAT'S ALL GOOD!!!

Like I figured.

and neither are you.

I'm not the one making the claim asshat.....

There's plenty of evidence.

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Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

By Adam Entous, Ellen Nakashima and Greg Miller December 9 at 10:45 PM
The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

I was pretty surprised too. I did not expect the Russians to pick Trump as the winner. I would've put my money on them backing Bernie.
 
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