So it was the Russians that allowed Trump to win??

[Carnal_Flower]

Hmm.

Can you PROVE that all those people voted for Trump? Were you there? Did you see it with your own eyes? How do you know it really happened?

I never said I held proof in my hands, did I? Who can? You don't. No one does, except the people who investigated it. Does that need to be explained to you?

No, I am not a CIA operative. Nope. I have no proof in my little hands. I never claimed to.

But if that's your demand for every opinion and statement, should make for an insane world.

www.google.com



So wanting to ban guns isn't a real threat against my 2A rights but Trump calling the media in to tell them they can all lick his butt hole is a threat I should be worried about.

Right.....I'll be taking THAT seriously.



So you FINALLY admit you don't have anything and you never had a problem with these activities until Trump.

No problem with foreign donations and support for (D) though!! THAT'S ALL GOOD!!!

Like I figured.



I'm not the one making the claim asshat.....



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[BotanyBoy]

Google and Youtube said you're full of shit. I guess that must be the case.

You can guess all you want.

Like I said, your inability to internet isn't my problem.

Can you PROVE that all those people voted for Trump? Were you there? Did you see it with your own eyes? How do you know it really happened?

Because the system said they did and we don't have any evidence to the contrary.

No, I am not a CIA operative. Nope. I have no proof in my little hands. I never claimed to.

Exactly so you're running on speculation.

But if that's your demand for every opinion and statement, should make for an insane world.

My sphere of influence isn't global, sorry.

 

[JackLuis]

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[Carnal_Flower]

You're running on speculation that Trump won, and yet you seem to accept it as fact.

I've taken note of your argument here. There is no proof of anything unless you can hold it in your hands. It will come back and bite you in the ass the next time you, um, say anything.

You can guess all you want.

Like I said, your inability to internet isn't my problem.



Because the system said they did and we don't have any evidence to the contrary.



Exactly so you're running on speculation.



My sphere of influence isn't global, sorry.

 

[mark_j]

You're running on speculation that Trump won, and yet you seem to accept it as fact.

I've taken note of your argument here. There is no proof of anything unless you can hold it in your hands. It will come back and bite you in the ass the next time you, um, say anything.

Or in other words "I (you) don't have anything. So I'll throw a bunch of unproven and unsubstantiated shit on the wall and hope it sticks!".

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

"...throw a bunch of unproven and unsubstantiated shit on the wall and hope it sticks!"

Are you fucking kidding me ?

*exasperated sigh*

 

[BotanyBoy]

You're running on speculation that Trump won, and yet you seem to accept it as fact.

It's not speculation that Trump won.

So far as anyone knows and the entire planet is concerned except some liburhulz who can't cope with reality like GSGS, he won.

He won by a pretty fair margin too.

I've taken note of your argument here. There is no proof of anything unless you can hold it in your hands. It will come back and bite you in the ass the next time you, um, say anything.

Oh I'm sure it will

You're a piss poor observer sweetheart.

"...throw a bunch of unproven and unsubstantiated shit on the wall and hope it sticks!"

Are you fucking kidding me ?

*exasperated sigh*

^^ thinks Clinton won...LOL

 

[JackLuis]

As long as we're talking of leaks and emails.

The NYPD leaked that they had found a mess of incriminating evidence on Anthony Weiners laptop and Rudy was all excited and said his FBI contacts had told him the Hillary was toast now.

Yet the FBI came out and said, "Bullshit".

Shouldn't some one have to answer for the unsubstantiated rumors leaked by the NYPD and Rudy too? Can't someone pin a five year stretch on Rudy, please?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

And you're a piss poor debater

Bitter Boy says nothing can be accepted as true unless you witnessed it yourself. Or hold the proof in your hands. Didn't see the Russians hack? Then it's speculation!

Didn't see every single voter for yourself? Then democracy is speculation.

It's not about Trump vs Hillary. It's how you "know" for a fact that he or she or anyone actually won an election. You have no proof.

If that's the way YOU argue, you're in deep shit. Don't worry, I'll remind you of it

It's not speculation that Trump won.

So far as anyone knows and the entire planet is concerned except some liburhulz who can't cope with reality like GSGS, he won.

He won by a pretty fair margin too.



Oh I'm sure it will

You're a piss poor observer sweetheart.



^^ thinks Clinton won...LOL

 

[BotanyBoy]

And you're a piss poor debater

Bitter Boy says nothing can be accepted as true unless you witnessed it yourself. Or hold the proof in your hands.

That's your made up fantasy.

It's not about Trump vs Hillary. It's how you "know" for a fact that he or she or anyone actually won an election. You have no proof.

Proof is in the votes.

You loose, sorry.

If that's the way YOU argue, you're in deep shit.

It's not, that's just you dealing with the fact that you were wrong and there was nothing you can do about it except flail around like this.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The CIA has claimed Russia hacked.

You choose to believe Trump over US Intelligence services.

No one's been proven wrong, no one holds proof in their hands except the CIA.

I was not wrong. You have proven nothing. No one has proven the CIA wrong. All we have is Trump saying, "I don't believe them."

At this point, I believe this is why hearings are needed.

That's your made up fantasy.

Proof is in the votes.

You loose, sorry.



It's not, that's just you dealing with the fact that you were wrong and there was nothing you can do about it except flail around like this.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The CIA has claimed Russia hacked.

Hacked what??

You choose to believe Trump over US Intelligence services.

That's your assumption not my belief.

No one's been proven wrong, no one holds proof in their hands except the CIA.

You were operating under the assumption that Russia had fouled our election.....which is just your hopeful wish and in no way even remotely close to being backed up by anything.

And that was wrong.

At this point, I believe this is why hearings are needed.

HOLY SHIT !!!! And then you FINALLY said something sane.....congratulations.

Keep that shit up and you might be considered a rational human being.

 

[JackLuis]

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[phrodeau]

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Maybe they learned their lesson. Expect massive retirements among Republicans.

 

[BotanyBoy]

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Yet nobody can seem to say directly how exactly Russia interfered with our elections.

It is funny how that works....

 

[dan_c00000]

Hillary reminds of old women who go around naked, leave the drapes open, and scream in to the dark STOP LOOKING AT ME.

Reminds who?

As opposed to the lefts passionate love for them???

Yeah, the left loves Hitler, Putin, and Durante. Just to name a few. You're such a fucking moron it isn't even funny anymore. Go masturbate to gun pictures.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

You need to wake up and smell the Cheetos.

Or maybe the potato-flavored vodka.

Hacked what??



That's your assumption not my belief.



You were operating under the assumption that Russia had fouled our election.....which is just your hopeful wish and in no way even remotely close to being backed up by anything.

And that was wrong.



HOLY SHIT !!!! And then you FINALLY said something sane.....congratulations.

Keep that shit up and you might be considered a rational human being.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah, the left loves Hitler, Putin, and Durante. Just to name a few. You're such a fucking moron it isn't even funny anymore.

IDK about Durante but they love Hitlers political philosophy, most of Putin too the only thing they need to get approval is a (D) in front of their name.

Anything goes as long as it's for the greater good of the state and of course the DNC.

Be it (D) supporters committing violence on their behalf or officially shitting on the individual and or individual rights for the greater good they have no problem with it as long as it's their team doing it.

Go masturbate to gun pictures.

I'm asexual and I wouldn't need pictures.

Better luck next time Dan.

You need to wake up and smell the Cheetos.

Or maybe the potato-flavored vodka.

So you can't even begin to describe how they meddled in our election?

LOL

That's what I thought......

Neither can any of the rest of the Clinton fan club who is making the claim.

 

[JackLuis]

Putin personally had a hand in election hacks: US officials

NBC is reporting that Putin personally directed the "Attack on America!"

In an interview with NBC, two senior officials who have seen new information gathered by U.S. intelligence agencies say Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally involved in the hacking campaign to interfere with the U.S. election.

Saying they have a “high level of confidence” in what they have seen, they believe that Putin personally dictated how information stolen from the Democratic National Committee was rolled out to damage the candidacy of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

According to a source, Putin’s “vendetta” against Hillary Clinton grew into an effort to undermine the American political process and “split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn’t depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore.”

Former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, agreed with the assessment saying, “It is most certainly consistent with the Putin that I have watched and used to work with when I was an ambassador and in the government.”

If Trump is President, who in the world would allow him to lead the free world?

 

[JackLuis]

John McCain Freaks Out Over Putin & Trump

Putin Kills people, bombs innocent people and is a thug!

Obama kills US Citizens and kills the family of suspected terrorists, but gets the Nobel Peace Prize!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Putin personally had a hand in election hacks: US officials

NBC is reporting that Putin personally directed the "Attack on America!"



If Trump is President, who in the world would allow him to lead the free world?

Oh so he didn't actually fuck with the election...

He just exposed the (D)'s scummy behavior.

That's what I figured, and it explains all the hype (D)'s are putting on it.

 

[JackLuis]

Oh so he didn't actually fuck with the election...

He just exposed the (D)'s scummy behavior.

That's what I figured, and it explains all the hype (D)'s are putting on it.

Oh he did fuck with the elections, it was to discredit America in the eyes of the world so that the rest of the world would look to someone other than the Orange Shit Gibbon for leadership.

If the Russians are successful at disrupting Europe, as it seems they are, then who is going to sanction them? Russia gets to sell oil and gas with little competition and the Russian Mafia makes more money.

Politics is about money, never forget.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh he did fuck with the elections,

No he didn't, he spoke his opinion and exposed Clinton and (D)'s scummy behavior.

Blowing the DNC's PR campaign for Clinton is not fucking with the elections.

Clinton was a SHIT candidate, (D)'s need REALIZE that so they can do better next time and move the fuck on.

The longer they try to make this about everything other than that the worse they will make things for themselves.

it was to discredit America in the eyes of the world so that the rest of the world would look to someone other than the Orange Shit Gibbon for leadership.

The world didn't get to vote.

So unless there is evidence of voting machines getting hacked or that spetsnaz was at voting booths across america forcing people to vote Trump... the sore losers over in the (D) camp are just being cry babies and most of America will see that.

If the Russians are successful at disrupting Europe, as it seems they are, then who is going to sanction them?

Sanction them for what?

Russia gets to sell oil and gas with little competition and the Russian Mafia makes more money.

Why don't we make ourselves competitive then?

Politics is about money, never forget.

Yes I know money and politics have a very incestuous relationship.

 

[coati]

Botany boy has effectively become one of our hapless resident KGB agents, advancing Russian economic interests at the expense of the social and physical world environment. Like our new President, BB was ripe for the picking, and yet he vehemently denies that his mindset makes him a useful idiot.

It was relatively easy for Putin to influence our election. He simply observed that right wing media had been fostering hate for the Clintons for two decades and that a critical mass of middle America would go for any candidate who best expressed this hate. Then, he selectively used intelligence garnered from email hacks to move this critical portion of the voting population to effect a narrow victory. He even had help from the FBI director to reinforce the drumbeat about Hillary's use of a private email server, a heinous offense that will no doubt be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and land her in jail, as chanted by Trump's legion of torch-wielding ditto-heads.

So now, Botany Boy and others want us to believe that the Russian variable in this situation was incidental and not one of the causative factors. After all, if Hillary had not committed this heinous crime, and if the D's had not nominated her, and if the D's had not been so elitist, and if the D's had not provided a new avenue for health care access, and if the D's had not supported trade deals, and if the D's had not defended religious freedom, and if... well, if the D's had just done almost everything differently for the past several decades, then Putin would not have been so successful in swaying a close election. Besides, Hillary was running against a candidate who had impeccable credentials and no history of scandal or corruption.

So, we should just ignore what Putin did, maybe go through the motions of an investigation at best, and accept that the R's are now in power under a huge mandate and with massive popular support in an election that had nothing to do with an undereducated population being swayed by a foreign intelligence agency.

Botany Boy will continue to wag his finger at those who, unlike him, hate America and don't realize that all is fair in the dog-eat-dog world. Why, Putin himself loves America more than those dirty D's...

 

[phrodeau]

Is that the same bozo who claims Putin said he would start a war if Clinton won?