So, what's to be done?

[fifty5]

A lot fo the things you guys are posting in terms of not changing things is convincing me more and more that we need the change, as odd as that may sound. Too many of these comments are ones that might have once been arguments to keep all the threads on Lit as a whole on one board. Organization is required, the question is: Is it required here just yet?

Q_C

Could be good, but not yet "required"

IMHO

Eff

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

. . . Don't tell me this place isn't the GB....

Okay, Gauche, I won't.

But your statistics don't prove your assertion.

The similarity or difference cannot be judged by analysing the types of thread, but on assessing the contents of those posts.

If you honestly claim that the contents of each thread's posts are anything like the contents of the posts on the GB, then the GB has been greatly changed.

... It's all fodder to me -- even the flirting and blurting. Just 'cause it also happens to be fun or frivolous doesn't diminish its value to me....

As previously mentioned, I also like the quirky way topics changes and discover things that no one had thought to investigate.

I also like the fun.

The GB is obviously fun for a great many people, just not me.

THAT is how I determine that the AH is not like the GB.

 

[fifty5]

The GB is obviously fun for a great many people, just not me.

THAT is how I determine that the AH is not like the GB.

Yup, it's just 'nicer' here.

Eff

 

[sincerely_helene]

About two years ago, the subject came up and the consensus of AH regular at that time was this is an "Authors Hangout" not a "Writers Resource" forum. It's place to discuss anything that Authors choose to discuss with other Authors.

I agree with the brunt of your post, but if the above statement is the case, than the description on the main board page is more than a little misleading.

I should also re-assert that I too enjoy many of the non-writerly posts, and even make quite of few of my own!

 

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[sincerely_helene]

Soooo.....What did I say??? Waaaay back. change the description.
sheesh.

Sorry! I didn't mean to repeat yourself.

 

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[Belegon]

I am not fond of the GB. I just like the people here perhaps. Also, despite recent poly threads etc., I find that the name fits.

I like it fine the way it is.

 

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[gauchecritic]

Ok, I meant isn't a GB. The bulk of threads aren't authorly, that is, they don't require an authors 'attitude' to respond. Like I said before; it's all circular and comes round again, it just requires patience.

This probably sounds grandiloquent, but Harold answered the jokey part of my earlier post (it was me that misquoted) which was something of a rant otherwise.

He also answered the general question of the thread too, so these two posts (his and mine), to me, would represent a 'writerly' thread. Serious question, threaded with humour or inconsequentialities. Do you get my gist?

Not a cheese thread, not a Jimmy Choo thread. They obviously have their place and I prefer not to enter into them but when they overcome the AH and speed threads of 'authorly' concerns to the next page after a couple of days, that's what annoys me and leads me to remark that this is becoming a General Board.

Gauche

P.S a good humourous 'writerly' thread, in my view, are the two hero/heroine lists of what not to do in a story.

 

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[sincerely_helene]

"JIMMY CHOOO"!!!!

OMG!!!
aren't they fantastic! even if over priced...
I so love a CFMP (come Fuck ME PUMP) in patent!!!


fook an A... i knew what jimmy choo means!...basically

Slow day at work today, Rhino?

 

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[Guest]

CHALLENGE

 

[Lisa Denton]

Lou started this thread and is prolly blown away by all the fast responses. We are all saying what we think and people making suggestions and all kinda stuff.

Uh, I don't think its a thread concerning writing only per se, but is something that interests us all.

I like talking to a writer about writing then going to a fun flirtin thread and talking to that same writer about oral sex while standing on your head. (Giving head on your head?) I dunno.

I e-mailed manu a lil while ago about the feedback portal problem but I would never suggest to him to change anything. The AH is changing, its supposed to, its growing. The feedback portal got fusterclucked when manu had them upgrading the servers friday night because the site membership has gone ballistic.

There are serious threads, and I'm not saying anyone is stupid but if you subscibe to a thread you can find it easy and post it back to the first page where it gets seen. Even on the general boards the decent people tell newbies they should visit the AH where things are more serious yet subdued.

Keep it up manu!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[neonlyte]

Re: CHALLENGE

Alright you authorly authors...(who are hanging out)

try writing a serious (or at least accurate and FUNCTIONAL) description to use for the AUthros Hangout.

What IS this place?

CAn't be any longer than the other Board descriptions

To me, it's a lot like your local pub, or bar. There's a lot of regulars, some you're on nodding terms with. Some are mates, there's a crowd in the corner who look hell bent on subversion and there's a few chums you can sit with and talk through Life the Universe and Everything, some of them even write.

Every now and again some of the girls get their tits out and some prefer to leave them out, and at least once a week it's someones birthday and we all have a whip round. A few strangers pop in from time to time and either meld into the crowd or get the shit frightened out of them.

And then there's the girls... lots of them and their all gorgeous, even the ones that say chaps are not their cup of tea.

A couple of people get legless and make fools of themselves or upset someone by claiming they've swiped their drink or some other nonsense. But on the whole, we get along, shifting tables if they going on too long about the footy or the bloody election and chat up the girl with the tight bum, she always promises but never lets me take her home.

AUTHORS HANGOUT - THE ROSE AND CLOWN

AUTHORS HANGOUT - LIFE, THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING

 

[Couture]

If anything?

Is the fact that the AH is perceived as a mini-GB to a lot of people a big problem?

Is it something that needs doing something about?

Is it just the way things go, when a group of encouragable flirts get together?

Would an Authors' Q&A thread help?

Weekly writing exercises?

In house critiquing?

Do we ban politics?

Do we ban religion?

Do we ban (God help me) FLIRTING???

This is an open board, a public board, and anybody, absolutely anybody, should feel able to post here, especially fellow Lit authors. Do you think people are put off posting here, because of the way it is. If the answer to that question is, "Yes," then something does need to be done, surely.

Has anybody got any answers?

Anybody want a shag?

Lou

The AH is different from the GB. The AH is a place for authors to hangout. The GB tends to be for readers. I don't care much for the GB. I prefer the smaller venue ... the neighborhood bar crowd we have here.

Personally, I'm put off with posting on the GB with so many people there. Should they post less to make me feel more welcome?

As to banning content. I'd rather we didn't. I used to hang out on another bulletin board until they came up with all these subjects you couldn't post about. It used to be a pretty popular place. I say 'used to be.' It's been dead ever since.

There are boards for critiquing etc. on Lit No much going on there. Not sure if I want to make the AH like that.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

...Not a cheese thread, not a Jimmy Choo thread. They obviously have their place and I prefer not to enter into them but when they overcome the AH and speed threads of 'authorly' concerns to the next page after a couple of days, that's what annoys me...

Gee, Gauche, why don’t you subscribe to the threads that meet your criteria, then you can find them from your control panel? I don’t use it myself, but isn’t that the way it is supposed to work?

I just tried to reanimate the Corrupt Wish thread yesterday, but I guess everybody has had enough. It’s sinking to the bottom of the second page at the moment. No reason to get bent out of shape. Part of having a conversation involves agreeing to talk about stuff that other people wish to talk about.

I was involved in a bulletin board that used to be a lot of fun, too. (Not as much fun as the AH but what is?) They decided to start enforcing topics — purging posts, even threads, that weren’t according to Hoyle.

I went back to have a look earlier this week. From the usual page of twenty active threads there now are five. One with a sticky, The FAQ about what threads will be tolerated. One that was last posted to in mid-September, two that haven’t been active since August, and one from last May.

Free speech doesn’t just mean freedom to speak about what you want. On the internet it means freedom to bugger off if you aren’t permitted to talk about what you want to talk about.

If you want people to talk about what you are interested in, Gauche, start a thread that might interest them in your discussion.

 

[gauchecritic]

Gee, Gauche, <snip>

If you want people to talk about what you are interested in, Gauche, start a thread that might interest them in your discussion.

I was asked my opinion. I was stating what I would like the boards to be like. I do start threads and they die. I use the subscription and the threads die. I reply to threads that interest me and they die.

They die for lack of input and getting pushed off the page, I assume that as many people that want to answer have answered so I don't bump, nor resurrect.

The people that attend the AH has changed dramatically in the couple of years I've been here and, as quite a few are unwilling to state, it was more authorly then, it was more interesting then and it was less flippant and giggly.

Do what you want. Go ahead. It's not my site, I'm not a moderator (and I don't believe we need one) I'm just a miserable, nostalgic, toffee nosed, old bastard that likes nothing better than a good moan.

Gauche

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

. . . I'm just a miserable, nostalgic, toffee nosed, old bastard that likes nothing better than a good moan. Gauche

Go ahead and start a "Things were better when. . . ." thread, Gauche and I'll read it.

I LOVE history . . . Especially alt, or fantasy history


I just might not post because I'm still waiting for my Good Old Days!

 

[Guest]

The people that attend the AH has changed dramatically in the couple of years I've been here and, as quite a few are unwilling to state, it was more authorly then, it was more interesting then and it was less flippant and giggly.

I'm willing to state I agree with this. I've had my say too often now so I'm not indulging further. If you see less of me, you know why.

Perdita

p.s. the 'you' above is no one in particular.

 

[Remec]

Responses Inline...<g>

If anything? 'Bout what?

Is the fact that the AH is perceived as a mini-GB to a lot of people a big problem? You say GB like it's a bad thing.

Is it something that needs doing something about?
Is it just the way things go, when a group of encouragable flirts get together? What? Sorry, was encouraging some flirts to get together.<g>

Would an Authors' Q&A thread help? Don't we have several of those, both sticky and nonsticky, already?

Weekly writing exercises? That'd be kind of cool. Just keep them bumped up for those of us not getting in as regular as usual.

In house critiquing? Isn't there a seperate forum for this sort of thing?

Do we ban politics?
Do we ban religion?
Do we ban (God help me) FLIRTING??? <gasp> Bite your tongue...better still let me...oh, sorry...serious answer, hmmm....I think if we could get people who start threads to mark them in the title, like you would on a Yahoo or MSN group. (eg, Political:Was Ohio stolen like Florida last time?)


Anybody want a shag? Definitely. With you? *MOST* Definitely!

 

[Remec]

I think they should combine the AH and the GB. *shrug* Leave a FAQ for those with questions.

I sort of drifted into here because it was like a great big version of Rick's in SRP. A place to...as the sign on the door says...hang out with fellow writers, whether they were Lit writers yet or not, and just sort of pass some time and pick each others brains for helpful hints and bits of inspiration that might make that next submission work just a little better.

And, when not brain picking, than engaging in friendly banter and flirting that may or may not crossover into the sort of things going on in SRP...only using ourselves (both real and online personae) as opposed to the fictional constructs that roleplaying involves.

 

[Remec]

P.S. Bugger, I've been and gone and hijacked my own thread, with my usual silly flirting.

Can you do that? I would've thought, as it's your thread, that anything you wanted to talk about was fair game.

Flirting...

Making silly statements and/or puns...

Digressing outrageously...

Quoting your favorite bits of this and that...

Whatever you feel like...although, coming back to the original point at some time or another would prolly be a good thing<g>