Sting or thud?

[Explorer99]

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[Dreamer110]

For my wife it's definitely a sting. And as for me I love whatever she does.

 

[UsuallyPresent]

There's a further aspect to this (for me) which I'd neglected to mention; what I like to use very much depends on where it's landing!! If it's a large and/or heavy implement, I like a more 'padded' target where if it's thin and whippy, I see more latitude in its application!

There are people who'll only use strikers on flesh over bone, so shoulders, upper back, pelvis, thighs, etc - never abdomen/sides. This is IMO not a bad rule to start with, as it's much easier to damage someone with a thuddy toy to organs - kidneys and liver are the traditional culprits as I understand it.

Stingy toys are less likely (not impossible) to cause this kind of complication. However, stingy toys are more likely to cause welts or open sores, in extreme cases cuts. (Not to say that a thuddy toy can't, they certainly can welt or cut skin especially if they're not well maintained, but stingy typically are more likely.)

But wait! There's more than that - there's also what's hit before. It's quite possible to build anticipation, leading from a tougher spot slowly, inevitably to a more tender spot. Additionally, hitting a spot that's been hit before is much more intense than just hitting the same spot once. Thrice is yet more intense.

Some of the other biggies include:

- how the body's positioned. The sensation on the sides of the thigh can differ depending on how the knee's bent.

- how the body's tensed. If you've got someone suspended so there's no weight on their legs, the sensations when you strike their legs will be different than if they're in predicament bondage where their legs are heavily weight bearing. Plus - there's always the fun of predicament bondage - what happens if their stance fails & the predicament occurs? You and your striker can influence that, subtly or dramatically.

- other concurrent sensation. If you're flip-flopping between tickling and striking, the body'll be tensed and react differently than if you're NOT tickling. Additionally if you're going tickle-strike-pause, you'll get a different reaction than if you're going strike-tickle-pause. Neither is superior, just different, and different people will react to the sensations differently.

- endorphins greatly impact the degree of sensation. Someone who's just orgasmed typically is less sensitive/more distracted than someone who is building towards one, who in turn can be MORE sensitive building than someone who's not sexually turned on.

There are probably others I'm not thinking of.

Learn your partner's reactions, and use them appropriately to drive them in the direction of your choice.

 

[Lascivity]

I enjoy delivering stingy beatings more than thuddy ones. Feels more efficient, and more painful. As a sadist, the amount of pain involved is pretty important to me.

Also it just sounds better to my ears. The sharp snap of the impact. The ensuing yelp...

 

[BadAmy]

I enjoy delivering stingy beatings more than thuddy ones. Feels more efficient, and more painful. As a sadist, the amount of pain involved is pretty important to me.

Also it just sounds better to my ears. The sharp snap of the impact. The ensuing yelp...

yelping. Hmm. very interesting.

From a sadist's point of view, do you prefer resistance, or compliance with your bottom/sub/mascochist?

 

[BadAmy]

Thank you all so much for posting such great responses! I will reply asap from bottom up. hehe...get it? bottom up? OMG That was a good one!

 

[UsuallyPresent]

From a sadist's point of view, do you prefer resistance, or compliance with your bottom/sub/mascochist?

This, and its flip - "from a masochist's point of view, do you prefer to resist or comply?" - would seem to be good for a question for PLP's thread...

 

[BadAmy]

This, and its flip - "from a masochist's point of view, do you prefer to resist or comply?" - would seem to be good for a question for PLP's thread...

Good idea...I'll ask her!

 

[BadAmy]

There are people who'll only use strikers on flesh over bone, so shoulders, upper back, pelvis, thighs, etc - never abdomen/sides. This is IMO not a bad rule to start with, as it's much easier to damage someone with a thuddy toy to organs - kidneys and liver are the traditional culprits as I understand it.

Stingy toys are less likely (not impossible) to cause this kind of complication. However, stingy toys are more likely to cause welts or open sores, in extreme cases cuts. (Not to say that a thuddy toy can't, they certainly can welt or cut skin especially if they're not well maintained, but stingy typically are more likely.)

But wait! There's more than that - there's also what's hit before. It's quite possible to build anticipation, leading from a tougher spot slowly, inevitably to a more tender spot. Additionally, hitting a spot that's been hit before is much more intense than just hitting the same spot once. Thrice is yet more intense.

Some of the other biggies include:

- how the body's positioned. The sensation on the sides of the thigh can differ depending on how the knee's bent.

- how the body's tensed. If you've got someone suspended so there's no weight on their legs, the sensations when you strike their legs will be different than if they're in predicament bondage where their legs are heavily weight bearing. Plus - there's always the fun of predicament bondage - what happens if their stance fails & the predicament occurs? You and your striker can influence that, subtly or dramatically.

- other concurrent sensation. If you're flip-flopping between tickling and striking, the body'll be tensed and react differently than if you're NOT tickling. Additionally if you're going tickle-strike-pause, you'll get a different reaction than if you're going strike-tickle-pause. Neither is superior, just different, and different people will react to the sensations differently.

- endorphins greatly impact the degree of sensation. Someone who's just orgasmed typically is less sensitive/more distracted than someone who is building towards one, who in turn can be MORE sensitive building than someone who's not sexually turned on.

There are probably others I'm not thinking of.

Learn your partner's reactions, and use them appropriately to drive them in the direction of your choice.

Wow. That is something. Thank you for sharing!

 

[BadAmy]

For my wife it's definitely a sting. And as for me I love whatever she does.

That is so sweet❤

There's a further aspect to this (for me) which I'd neglected to mention; what I like to use very much depends on where it's landing!! If it's a large and/or heavy implement, I like a more 'padded' target where if it's thin and whippy, I see more latitude in its application!

So would the butt be the best? And what about the stomach?

There was a single-tail situation where the bottom asked the Top NOT to mark the bottom in certain places because they were going to a family event and wearing a specific outfit that would show any marks.

The Top has a ton of experience. Is someone I would consider has a lot of "artistry". Someone I've played with and trust.

Unfortunately, the bottom was marked in the area they didn't want. Neither knew it at the time. It was an accident. The bottom didn't feel it, the Top didn't see the tip of the whip land in that area. The marks didn't show up until later.

It became a rather big issue as to who was responsible. The bottom for even playing? The Top for not paying better attention?

Even the most skilled weilders of thuddy or stingy things can make a mistake, get caught up in the moment. They are watching so many different variables!


I was flogged by someone on my back - top of back to calves. At the time, I thought it was amazing. I can't say I went in to sub space but did get really out of it, dreamy feeling. Lots of adrenaline. Scene ended, I put on my shirt and within minutes, this crazy hurt feeling started up on my shoulders. A girlfriend looked at my back and my shirt was stuck to my shoulders. He had abraded the skin around my shoulders. It wasn't bleeding but was shiny and oozing. During the scene, neither of us knew it. He couldn't visibly see it. Not sure why it was on shoulders only - I think he wasn't aiming the flogger that high but the tips of the leather were smacking my shoulders.

For a time, when I was new, I simply felt like a receiver. Hey - hit me would ya? I didn't understand negotiation. Thought it was a drag. I didn't feel comfortable giving feedback to someone who was more experienced than me. I tend to get out of it quickly and it's hard to verbalize in a coherent way. Now I realize it's important to talk talk talk. Before, during, after. I have to take some responsibility for what happens to me.

Thanks Cookiekat!
Talking. ❤❤

 

[BadAmy]

Well, it depends, doesn't it? It can depend on...

- where you're aiming; different implements feel different in different places
- whether it's part of role play; bratty little princess spanked with her own sparkly hairbrush, or schoolgirl caned with a ruler
- whether you're looking to mark or be marked
- dozens and dozens of other personal things relating to memories and rituals unique to a given couple

But so much of it is in the mind, as much as in the actual physical sensation. Anticipation. Setting the scene. If you take care over the anticipation and the mental/psychological aspect first, it's surprising how little actual physical pain can take her where she needs to go.

And yes of course - most people can damage a bound and helpless victim, whether they're big or little. But my instinct is to use *just* enough of the right kind of pain to achieve the desired result. The pleasure comes from my self control, and watching how the pain controls the helpless woman on the receiving end.

Thank you Meister
I think it all kinda starts in the mind. Just the thought of it all sets the tone for headspace...for everyone probably.

 

[BadAmy]

sharp sting is a turn on always for me.

butt lying face down

❤❤ a favorite!

I think I see a trend: Big Guys who have to hold back. I'm a big man too, and constantly worried that I will inadvertently step over the line from the sharp hand spanking that gives pleasure and that she so likes and instead deliver a harder, damaging blow.

That's also why I would never use a paddle, flogger or crop. I know a hand can also inflict damage, but the feedback is more direct and instant.

Thank you for this i like the idea of an implement to give the hand a break

I think there's plenty of room for differential between the two sensations, and both can be modulated by the force of impact. Of course, it does help if the person wielding the implement is well-practiced in the physical act of using it, and is able to take advantage of the nuances of varying levels of force.

Agreed though i am sure some bottoms wouldn't mind being the beta testers. I suppose that is dangerous in itself.

 

[barefootgirl69]

I like the sting of a hand, a hairbrush, a belt...even a wooden spoon at times.

 

[Fermina_Daza]

I like the sting of a hand, a hairbrush, a belt...even a wooden spoon at times.

I can handle the hand or belt - because of the intimacy behind them. I use round brushes so that just sounds awful

 

[barefootgirl69]

I can handle the hand or belt - because of the intimacy behind them. I use round brushes so that just sounds awful

Sounds can be so arousing! But not from round brushes

 

[Fermina_Daza]

Sounds can be so arousing! But not from round brushes

I didn't even think about the sound! I almost choked on my tea reading your response. Ouch.

 

[UsuallyPresent]

I didn't even think about the sound! I almost choked on my tea reading your response. Ouch.

Sounds are different, often a long thin metal rod for insertion into the urethra/"pee hole". Which imo is a different fetish, and sounds should not be used with rough play, too easy to do serious damage, still imo.

 

[fma20fma]

hi

Sounds are different, often a long thin metal rod for insertion into the urethra/"pee hole". Which imo is a different fetish, and sounds should not be used with rough play, too easy to do serious damage, still imo.

they call that 'sounding'. i hv seen it live, real time.

 

[barefootgirl69]

That wasn't the sound Fermina and I were talking about!

At least, I wasn't.

Oh, dear, how did I get into this mess?!?!

 

[UsuallyPresent]

That wasn't the sound Fermina and I were talking about!

At least, I wasn't.

Oh, dear, how did I get into this mess?!?!

Generally sounding isn't THAT messy, just don't be sparse on the lube unless you're both into serious nastiness. Which can get messy, but hey- water based lube goes a long ways to making it cleanable.

*impish grin* And - I figgered there was a good chance you weren't, I just couldn't resist....

 

[Fermina_Daza]

That wasn't the sound Fermina and I were talking about!

At least, I wasn't.

Oh, dear, how did I get into this mess?!?!

Me either!!! Just reading it was like nails on a chalkboard for me. Now the sound of an e-stim/violet wand......

 

[fma20fma]

hi

i've seen it for real too
less than a yard maybe 1' to 2' in front of me

I have seen it on cam during pvt chat wth exibitionists.

 

[twister947]

I've played with sounds...no big deal. Well, maybe the first time...

 

[slavemelanie]

I'm a definitely a vote for both. The crisp sting awakens the flesh and heightens everything from that point forward. The jolts of hips from behind or against my face is so primal and sends such a clear message of want and need and really makes me feel so special that I'm wanted that way.

Both sensations let me know who is in control.

 

[slavemelanie]

Sting please!

Love your avatar collar Karen