Sting or thud?

[ouchfeelsgood]

I prefer stingy things -- both receiving and giving -- because it seems easier to adjust the force of the impact, plus there's a wide range of possible sensations due to the different types of stinging implements.

 

[BadAmy]

Nipples and pussy!

I like sting-y.

On those sensitive places....oh helll yes. ❤❤

 

[BadAmy]

I much prefer thuddy over stingy. But stingy has its place too

What types of things give you the thud? Any favorites?

 

[BadAmy]

Cookie. That’s so hot.


I think there is a similar thread to this... or maybe a Pulpy question.
Anyway. It’s a goodun.

I like a combo. Which to me is a big hand. With impact. He can be thuddy or stingy, depending on the speed, the force and where he is slapping me. Tits are stingy.
Ass is stingy but turns thuddy.
Pussy.
He’s big. His hands are big. He hits hard.

Face. Face is stingy.

Nipple twisting. Bites. The knife. Pull my hair.

All stingy.

A hard, hard, hard throat fuck. Thuddy. God damn.

And being restrained can burn.


I’m a both-Er.

Restraint. I love that.

Stingy vs thuddy. I wonder which could be endured longer?

 

[BadAmy]

Thuddy, no doubt. I can do stingy for a bit but then I’m yellowing at anything three feet near me.

That is interesting. I feel the same, like i can take more thud than sting.

Sting. I don't know what it is, but I could have the loudest music in my ears and hear nothing else, but as soon as I feel that sensation... drip.

But it's situational. I prefer thuds that come with punishment, and I prefer stings that come with lots of affection and sweet talk.

I love that separation!!! Stings with sweet talk....hmmmm❤

 

[BadAmy]

Congrats on loosing your BDSM thread cherry!

I 'deliver' - prefer to think of it as 'being a giver' - and as such, my preference is two-part. One, to deliver what works best for my partner in scene. Note this isn't necessarily what they WANT, but what works BEST for the scene. Teasing one and only giving the other has a definite place in a teasing, tormenting scene, for instance.

Two, unless it's a pure anticipation scene with tight constraints, I really, really like to surprise my partner as I can. Finding alternative uses for toys makes this second goal much, much easier.

For instance, I've got a nice, heavy thuddy rolled-leather striker. Perfect for making bits move, and shock waves to roll through. What's also fun about it is that it's got a nice long wrist strap, to help keep it from going flying if you get inattentive, right?

Well, it also works pretty well as a stingy singletail type device, if you grab the toy by the rolled leather. Which, if you leave the toys someplace your partner can see what you're grabbing, can be a WONDERFUL surprise - I've gotten some great reactions.

Someone mentioned hands as striking toys - very little thuddier than a skilled hand. Stingy is also quite possible, just a different technique, but IMO there are toys that do stingy better than bare hands. Flexible floggers with many light tails, made of tiny latex hoses or rubber strings or the like comes to mind as near the best at stingy.

Just my 2c

i love the creativity!! Thank you

I prefer stingy things -- both receiving and giving -- because it seems easier to adjust the force of the impact, plus there's a wide range of possible sensations due to the different types of stinging implements.

Interesting
I wonder, with a sting or thud for that matter, how much differential can there be...given one's capacity with brute strength, for variance of impact?

 

[Fermina_Daza]

We attended a class and the presenter passed around all his toys so we could touch them, feel the weight of them. This became my favorite. First, it makes me laugh every time I see it. Second, it has a nice thud to it.

 

[Knoturnal]

We attended a class and the presenter passed around all his toys so we could touch them, feel the weight of them. This became my favorite. First, it makes me laugh every time I see it. Second, it has a nice thud to it.

 

[UsuallyPresent]

I wonder, with a sting or thud for that matter, how much differential can there be...given one's capacity with brute strength, for variance of impact?

Huge, at least IMO. Stingy starts with tickles and scratches and goes up to horrific bloodshed with a bullwhip or sjambok, for instance. Thuddy goes from taps and caresses to breaking things.

And technique beats brute power up until the very highest levels of damage, still imo, such that a cute 5’ eighteen year old who knows his/her striking tools & techniques can match or exceed the sensations made by a burly 6’6" type.

The smaller people often end up with better technique than bigger ones it seems, perhaps because they need it to meet their targets’ expectations.

Now, add on anatomical skill and biomechanics, and the capabilities for sensation go thru the roof...

 

[ColdAssIce]

That is interesting. I feel the same, like i can take more thud than sting.


I love that separation!!! Stings with sweet talk....hmmmm❤



Look at you, MacGuyver!

Yes. I find that mentally it’s very stimulating, it’s akin to a sacrifice for a deserving mistress. Encourage me, treat me well, gift me with kind words, and well, I’ll take whatever is given, unless it’s just physically too much for me (that’s what safe words are for!)

However, if I am being punished, I am more than likely feeling naughty anyway, and going to continue being a brat. Thuds are easier to take and allow me to continue to be snarky and disobedient, while receiving punishment and being degraded, without either me or my mistress needing to worry about whether or not anything is «*too much.*»

The sweet talk is a safe space for me to feel pain and be reminded that I am precious all at the same time.

(Sorry I feel I may be rambling, I’m high as a freaking kite.)

 

[fma20fma]

hi

sharp sting is a turn on always for me.

 

[spawnofdavey]

sharp sting is a turn on always for me.

Anywhere specific?

 

[fma20fma]

hi

butt lying face down

 

[BadAmy]

We attended a class and the presenter passed around all his toys so we could touch them, feel the weight of them. This became my favorite. First, it makes me laugh every time I see it. Second, it has a nice thud to it.

This made me chuckle! ❤

 

[BadAmy]

Yes. I find that mentally it’s very stimulating, it’s akin to a sacrifice for a deserving mistress. Encourage me, treat me well, gift me with kind words, and well, I’ll take whatever is given, unless it’s just physically too much for me (that’s what safe words are for!)

However, if I am being punished, I am more than likely feeling naughty anyway, and going to continue being a brat. Thuds are easier to take and allow me to continue to be snarky and disobedient, while receiving punishment and being degraded, without either me or my mistress needing to worry about whether or not anything is «*too much.*»

The sweet talk is a safe space for me to feel pain and be reminded that I am precious all at the same time.

(Sorry I feel I may be rambling, I’m high as a freaking kite.)

Ramblings welcomed! Please.

I like the sweettalk and feeling precious part a lot❤❤

 

[BadAmy]

What a superb description - perfectly putting into words something many of us know very well but haven't been able to articulate!

Thank you

 

[TANSTAAFL58]

I think I see a trend: Big Guys who have to hold back. I'm a big man too, and constantly worried that I will inadvertently step over the line from the sharp hand spanking that gives pleasure and that she so likes and instead deliver a harder, damaging blow.

That's also why I would never use a paddle, flogger or crop. I know a hand can also inflict damage, but the feedback is more direct and instant.

 

[ouchfeelsgood]

i love the creativity!! Thank you


Interesting
I wonder, with a sting or thud for that matter, how much differential can there be...given one's capacity with brute strength, for variance of impact?

I think there's plenty of room for differential between the two sensations, and both can be modulated by the force of impact. Of course, it does help if the person wielding the implement is well-practiced in the physical act of using it, and is able to take advantage of the nuances of varying levels of force.

 

[Mei5ter]

For those of us who like that sort of attention..and dare I say, affection?
What gets you more?
The sting or the thud? And why?


For those who deliver...
What is your preference?
(Whoohoot my 1st bdsm thread! )

Well, it depends, doesn't it? It can depend on...

- where you're aiming; different implements feel different in different places
- whether it's part of role play; bratty little princess spanked with her own sparkly hairbrush, or schoolgirl caned with a ruler
- whether you're looking to mark or be marked
- dozens and dozens of other personal things relating to memories and rituals unique to a given couple

But so much of it is in the mind, as much as in the actual physical sensation. Anticipation. Setting the scene. If you take care over the anticipation and the mental/psychological aspect first, it's surprising how little actual physical pain can take her where she needs to go.

And yes of course - most people can damage a bound and helpless victim, whether they're big or little. But my instinct is to use *just* enough of the right kind of pain to achieve the desired result. The pleasure comes from my self control, and watching how the pain controls the helpless woman on the receiving end.

 

[UsuallyPresent]

-snip-

And yes of course - most people can damage a bound and helpless victim, whether they're big or little. But my instinct is to use *just* enough of the right kind of pain to achieve the desired result. The pleasure comes from my self control, and watching how the pain controls the helpless woman on the receiving end.

Another possible term for this is ’artistry’

 

[cookiecat]

There was a single-tail situation where the bottom asked the Top NOT to mark the bottom in certain places because they were going to a family event and wearing a specific outfit that would show any marks.

The Top has a ton of experience. Is someone I would consider has a lot of "artistry". Someone I've played with and trust.

Unfortunately, the bottom was marked in the area they didn't want. Neither knew it at the time. It was an accident. The bottom didn't feel it, the Top didn't see the tip of the whip land in that area. The marks didn't show up until later.

It became a rather big issue as to who was responsible. The bottom for even playing? The Top for not paying better attention?

Even the most skilled weilders of thuddy or stingy things can make a mistake, get caught up in the moment. They are watching so many different variables!


I was flogged by someone on my back - top of back to calves. At the time, I thought it was amazing. I can't say I went in to sub space but did get really out of it, dreamy feeling. Lots of adrenaline. Scene ended, I put on my shirt and within minutes, this crazy hurt feeling started up on my shoulders. A girlfriend looked at my back and my shirt was stuck to my shoulders. He had abraded the skin around my shoulders. It wasn't bleeding but was shiny and oozing. During the scene, neither of us knew it. He couldn't visibly see it. Not sure why it was on shoulders only - I think he wasn't aiming the flogger that high but the tips of the leather were smacking my shoulders.

For a time, when I was new, I simply felt like a receiver. Hey - hit me would ya? I didn't understand negotiation. Thought it was a drag. I didn't feel comfortable giving feedback to someone who was more experienced than me. I tend to get out of it quickly and it's hard to verbalize in a coherent way. Now I realize it's important to talk talk talk. Before, during, after. I have to take some responsibility for what happens to me.

 

[Mei5ter]

There was a single-tail situation where the bottom asked the Top NOT to mark the bottom in certain places because they were going to a family event and wearing a specific outfit that would show any marks.

The Top has a ton of experience. Is someone I would consider has a lot of "artistry". Someone I've played with and trust.

Unfortunately, the bottom was marked in the area they didn't want. Neither knew it at the time. It was an accident. The bottom didn't feel it, the Top didn't see the tip of the whip land in that area. The marks didn't show up until later.

It became a rather big issue as to who was responsible. The bottom for even playing? The Top for not paying better attention?

Even the most skilled weilders of thuddy or stingy things can make a mistake, get caught up in the moment. They are watching so many different variables!


I was flogged by someone on my back - top of back to calves. At the time, I thought it was amazing. I can't say I went in to sub space but did get really out of it, dreamy feeling. Lots of adrenaline. Scene ended, I put on my shirt and within minutes, this crazy hurt feeling started up on my shoulders. A girlfriend looked at my back and my shirt was stuck to my shoulders. He had abraded the skin around my shoulders. It wasn't bleeding but was shiny and oozing. During the scene, neither of us knew it. He couldn't visibly see it. Not sure why it was on shoulders only - I think he wasn't aiming the flogger that high but the tips of the leather were smacking my shoulders.

For a time, when I was new, I simply felt like a receiver. Hey - hit me would ya? I didn't understand negotiation. Thought it was a drag. I didn't feel comfortable giving feedback to someone who was more experienced than me. I tend to get out of it quickly and it's hard to verbalize in a coherent way. Now I realize it's important to talk talk talk. Before, during, after. I have to take some responsibility for what happens to me.

Hello Cookie,

Forgive my ignorance, but what does single-tail mean in this context?

 

[UsuallyPresent]

There was a single-tail situation where the bottom asked the Top NOT to mark the bottom in certain places because they were going to a family event and wearing a specific outfit that would show any marks.
-snip-
Unfortunately, the bottom was marked in the area they didn't want. Neither knew it at the time. It was an accident. The bottom didn't feel it, the Top didn't see the tip of the whip land in that area. The marks didn't show up until later.

It became a rather big issue as to who was responsible. The bottom for even playing? The Top for not paying better attention?

IMO, the top is to blame, as their inattention/inaccuracy caused something to happen the sub explicitly negotiated as out of bounds. True, the sub has some blame too, if they hadn’t played it couldn’t have happened, but they trusted the top.

There are other possible outcomes - were they playing around others & caught an accidental strike from someone else? Etc - but as written IMO it’s the dom’s accepted responsibility to meet the sub’s goals, or to not play.

Edit - singletails are a type of whip, very high risk/high reward toy. Very dangerous if misused, but leaves gloriously stingy strikes & fine marks, if done right. Done wrong, can cut skin &/or leave permanent welts.

 

[Mei5ter]

IMO, the top is to blame, as their inattention/inaccuracy caused something to happen the sub explicitly negotiated as out of bounds. True, the sub has some blame too, if they hadn’t played it couldn’t have happened, but they trusted the top.

There are other possible outcomes - were they playing around others & caught an accidental strike from someone else? Etc - but as written IMO it’s the dom’s accepted responsibility to meet the sub’s goals, or to not play.

Edit - singletails are a type of whip, very high risk/high reward toy. Very dangerous if misused, but leaves gloriously stingy strikes & fine marks, if done right. Done wrong, can cut skin &/or leave permanent welts.

Ah....so like a cat o'nine tails but with eight fewer. Thank you!

 

[UsuallyPresent]

Ah....so like a cat o'nine tails but with eight fewer. Thank you!

Kinda. Most are more like a bullwhip, coming from a thicker strand down to a thinner striking tip at a smooth reduction. This design helps with accuracy & also the speed of the tip, which is where the danger comes in. Quirts are much the same except they often are shorter and thicker, often lacking the thin thread at the end of a bullwhip or singletail.

Cats and floggers are typically the same diameter for each striking end their whole length, which usually leads to a thuddier response. Or so the theories I was taught way back when tell. And you're quite welcome.