Stupefying collarme sub profile

[graceanne]

I whole heartedly agree. When I first started meeting Dominants, my work colleagues thought I was just looking at vanilla type men but were horrified that I would go for coffee or dinner and if I didn't click with them or found them to not be who I thought possible to have a relationship with, I would politely decline any further dates. Their idea was I should give them at least 6 dates before telling them that I wasn't interested any further just so I didn't hurt their feelings. Of course, these same women were mostly unhappy in their own relationships and admitted they were in them mostly because after dating awhile, they felt uncomfortable trying to move on so 'adapted' to make it work....which it didn't.

Catalina

Isn't it amazing how people who aren't happy in their relationships want you to do things the same way they did? Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing something over and over and expecting different results.

My mom has made some of the worst relationship decisions in her life. When i was 13 we had a talk about how it was ok for me to know what I want, and to refuse any less. As she said 'love goes down the drain real fast when the kids don't have any food, and he sits on his ass watching tv'.

 

[DVS]

Well see, I see it a little different, though I also don't like the profiles who have a list which states it will not ever be changed and that they better get used to it attitude. I had a few so called Dominants who responded badly when I politely told them I was not looking for what they had to offer, and wished them well in their search. I did mention in my profile I wanted my limits pushed and I wanted a challenge throughout the whole life adventure, but that didn't translate into I want any bum who calls himself a Dom so he can show me what I really want, but some felt that I was not able to decide for myself. Needless to say they missed out and F got my attention real quick simply because he wasn't into games, he also knew what he wanted, and he was confident enough in his ability to dominate and remain true to himself that I just couldn't ignore it.

Catalina

I'm sorry, but to say you want your limits pushed is a trigger for any stupid dumb ass wannabe to show you he's got a hard cock and almost enough blood to fill it AND his brain at the same time. It's called testosterone. But, I understand what you mean in saying that. That's the trouble, though. You say something in a profile and it's taken out of context or jumped on as "I'll show this bitch how to puss limits"...such immature minds we have to share our air with.

 

[Slutacus]

So you insult her profile on here, then proceed to contact her and express disappointment that you cannot hook up with her because of where you live?

It sounds like one of those guys that insults the hot young thing in the room because he is attracted to her but knows he doesn't fit her criteria. You obviously had an interest because you contacted her, but at the same time had to ridicule her here to protect your ego because you knew rejection would be coming your way.

What a catch!

Akasha

Wrong spin, sista. He had a strong negative emotional response to the profile. He posted about his feelings toward it here. It's not a particularly an insult to say that you wouldn't contact somebody or that they come across to you like God's Gift to Dominants. He then heard differing views about the profile content, and based on that modified his opinion about her and wrote her. Of course it's disappointing when somebody attractive, nice, or smart lives nowhere near you. I experience the same thing. Is that a sin? Why is this all about ego protection? He didn't exactly insult her to her face--AND, more importantly, he didn't exactly insult her here--he simply expressed his opinion. Despite ideas to the contrary, women are not god's greatest gift to men nor are they exempt from being ever being criticized.

At any rate, all I saw was open-mindedness and willing to change a point of view in the thread starter's messages, after the initial negativity reaction.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I'm sorry, but to say you want your limits pushed is a trigger for any stupid dumb ass wannabe to show you he's got a hard cock and almost enough blood to fill it AND his brain at the same time.

LOL, only if you are similarly cognitively challenged so as to not see through the BS a mile off.

C

 

[A Desert Rose]

... You say something in a profile and it's taken out of context or jumped on as "I'll show this bitch how to puss limits"...such immature minds we have to share our air with.

This is not a typo, I'm sure but a Freudian slip. Right, DVS? ;-)

But I do agree completely with the sentiment.

 

[DVS]

This is not a typo, I'm sure but a Freudian slip. Right, DVS? ;-)

But I do agree completely with the sentiment.

Strange. I can't even say the S and the H are close on the keyboard. Maybe I had a slight case of RRFF or something.

What's RRFF? Repetitious Ring Finger Fever. It's something men sometimes get when they meet a pretty lady and only want to USE her pretty parts but not marry them. In other parts of the world it's called the Jitters or the Hitchin' disease.

OK, maybe my keyboard just coughed, or I caught something from one of my cats. Shit, who knows what happened. No need to wake Freud up, though.

 

[Betticus]

So you insult her profile on here, then proceed to contact her and express disappointment that you cannot hook up with her because of where you live?

It sounds like one of those guys that insults the hot young thing in the room because he is attracted to her but knows he doesn't fit her criteria. You obviously had an interest because you contacted her, but at the same time had to ridicule her here to protect your ego because you knew rejection would be coming your way.

What a catch!

Akasha

No, you got it all out of order. I posted the profile here after I read it thinking that it was way too abrasive. After some of the women her posted that they thought it was otherwise then I sent her a nice message and asked her if she was feeling frustrated with the guys on collarme. She sent me a nice message back and basically said that it was too bad I didn't live close enough for her but that she had been inundated with bullshit messages.

Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Betticus]

At any rate, all I saw was open-mindedness and willing to change a point of view in the thread starter's messages, after the initial negativity reaction.

Someone was paying attention.

 

[alice_underneath]

I don't know, seemed a bit negitive and demanding to me too. *shrugs*

Hi, Captains Wench.

When I first saw her profile, I stopped reading after she wrote:

"In case you're wondering, I'm a bit precocious."

Her arrogance just made me laugh, and I wasn't interested in reading any more.

However, after reading your post, Captains Wench, I went back and read her profile in its entirety.

Her style seems brusque and arrogant to me. But I am absolutely certain that many brusque and arrogant women get to "do submission" - as well they should. I am sure there are men who appreciate this type of personality, just as some men prefer a softer style.

And unless the brusque and arrogant woman starts insulting other people, she does not deserve criticism any more than someone with a softer style.

I would like to make a comment to you about the content of her post. (This is different from the "style". I am addressing now what she is saying, rather than the way she is saying it. OK?)

It is clear to me that this woman has spent a lot of time thinking about what she needs and wants on the one hand, and what might not be good for her on the other.

She is trying very hard to communicate this information to her potential partner, and to avoid a relationship that will not really be good for her.

I think that's important for anyone to do in any kind of relationship. Don't you?

So, even though her style is quite different from my own, I am very impressed by the content of her message. And I think that any woman - no matter how soft her style - can learn something useful from this person's profile.

I hope you are enjoying the holiday season, Captains Wench.

Alice

 

[brioche]

you know, just for variety, you could try putting your tongue in your other cheek.

Whoops, not what I meant at all. I wasn't telling you to shut up. I was rather admiring your restraint.

Guess just because it's a saying here doesn't make it a saying everywhere.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

You are one smart lady Alice. Each time I read one of your posts I find myself smiling and thinking, "this girl's got it going on so many positives.

You go girl.

Hi, Captains Wench.

When I first saw her profile, I stopped reading after she wrote:

"In case you're wondering, I'm a bit precocious."

Her arrogance just made me laugh, and I wasn't interested in reading any more.

However, after reading your post, Captains Wench, I went back and read her profile in its entirety.

Her style seems brusque and arrogant to me. But I am absolutely certain that many brusque and arrogant women get to "do submission" - as well they should. I am sure there are men who appreciate this type of personality, just as some men prefer a softer style.

And unless the brusque and arrogant woman starts insulting other people, she does not deserve criticism any more than someone with a softer style.

I would like to make a comment to you about the content of her post. (This is different from the "style". I am addressing now what she is saying, rather than the way she is saying it. OK?)

It is clear to me that this woman has spent a lot of time thinking about what she needs and wants on the one hand, and what might not be good for her on the other.

She is trying very hard to communicate this information to her potential partner, and to avoid a relationship that will not really be good for her.

I think that's important for anyone to do in any kind of relationship. Don't you?

So, even though her style is quite different from my own, I am very impressed by the content of her message. And I think that any woman - no matter how soft her style - can learn something useful from this person's profile.

I hope you are enjoying the holiday season, Captains Wench.

Alice

 

[Marquis]

Whoops, not what I meant at all. I wasn't telling you to shut up. I was rather admiring your restraint.

Guess just because it's a saying here doesn't make it a saying everywhere.

This is hilarious, the only person on the board more assuming and judgmental than yourself challenging you in an intellectual comedy of errors that would make the 3 stooges proud. I guess you guys will have to find a replacement for Moe now that OUTSIDEHISMIND left the troupe.

For the most part I ignore these schoolyard shenanigans. I don't expect everyone to appreciate my humor or take the time to understand where I'm coming from. Your factually devoid criticisms are generally of little interest to me, but I will respond in this topic because there are plenty of newbs afoot and I want them to know where I stand on this all too familiar issue.

Cynicism and sarcasm aside, those of you who actually know a few things about me know that I respect strong people with confidence and character, be they Dom or sub. I am fairly private about my personal relationships, but I have never spoken about C (my recent sub of over a year) with anything but respect and admiration. She does not post here much, but by the few words she has given us and simply the posture and comportment you can see of her in my pic thread, I think even the most jaded will have to admit she is obviously a proud and sophisticated woman.

Of course, I'm sure you all remember Killishandra. Those of you implying I have no respect for a strong sub should wonder why I gave my heart to one so beautiful, confident and obviously intelligent. I could've had my pick of self-deprecating subs with no self-esteem to manipulate and abuse, yet it was one arrogant and unbridled that I had hoped to wear my collar.

A submissive is a human being like any other, and owes no suitor a courtesy he has not earned. This sub does to me sound like a bit of a bitch, but who made the rule that subs can't be bitches? There are chaste subs and very promiscuous subs, there are extroverted subs and introverted subs. Subs come in all shapes and sizes and attitudes and outlooks. Why is it that a criticism of a particular girl becomes a debate about the expectations of a sub in general?

Personally, I would never be with a sub who didn't think she was God's gift to Dominant's, because my standards are just that high. You gotta look like a model, think like an artist and fuck like a porno star to even be on my radar screen, so I can understand if a woman with those qualities feels like she has a right to be picky. It's true, I may laugh at the sub with the inflated ego that is not to my particular liking, but I bet the man she does end up with likes having a sub who thinks highly of herself. Nobody wants to feel like they earned someones love and loyalty by being the first motherfucker in line.

 

[BeachGurl2]

Wow, Marquis. Very well said. While I do get your humor and sarcasm - kind of that way myself, which gets me into trouble - I know I bristle sometimes at your comments. But I like the way you expressed yourself here. Brava.

This is hilarious, the only person on the board more assuming and judgmental than yourself challenging you in an intellectual comedy of errors that would make the 3 stooges proud. I guess you guys will have to find a replacement for Moe now that OUTSIDEHISMIND left the troupe.

For the most part I ignore these schoolyard shenanigans. I don't expect everyone to appreciate my humor or take the time to understand where I'm coming from. Your factually devoid criticisms are generally of little interest to me, but I will respond in this topic because there are plenty of newbs afoot and I want them to know where I stand on this all too familiar issue.

Cynicism and sarcasm aside, those of you who actually know a few things about me know that I respect strong people with confidence and character, be they Dom or sub. I am fairly private about my personal relationships, but I have never spoken about C (my recent sub of over a year) with anything but respect and admiration. She does not post here much, but by the few words she has given us and simply the posture and comportment you can see of her in my pic thread, I think even the most jaded will have to admit she is obviously a proud and sophisticated woman.

Of course, I'm sure you all remember Killishandra. Those of you implying I have no respect for a strong sub should wonder why I gave my heart to one so beautiful, confident and obviously intelligent. I could've had my pick of self-deprecating subs with no self-esteem to manipulate and abuse, yet it was one arrogant and unbridled that I had hoped to wear my collar.

A submissive is a human being like any other, and owes no suitor a courtesy he has not earned. This sub does to me sound like a bit of a bitch, but who made the rule that subs can't be bitches? There are chaste subs and very promiscuous subs, there are extroverted subs and introverted subs. Subs come in all shapes and sizes and attitudes and outlooks. Why is it that a criticism of a particular girl becomes a debate about the expectations of a sub in general?

Personally, I would never be with a sub who didn't think she was God's gift to Dominant's, because my standards are just that high. You gotta look like a model, think like an artist and fuck like a porno star to even be on my radar screen, so I can understand if a woman with those qualities feels like she has a right to be picky. It's true, I may laugh at the sub with the inflated ego that is not to my particular liking, but I bet the man she does end up with likes having a sub who thinks highly of herself. Nobody wants to feel like they earned someones love and loyalty by being the first motherfucker in line.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

This is hilarious, the only person on the board more assuming and judgmental than yourself challenging you in an intellectual comedy of errors that would make the 3 stooges proud. I guess you guys will have to find a replacement for Moe now that OUTSIDEHISMIND left the troupe.

For the most part I ignore these schoolyard shenanigans. I don't expect everyone to appreciate my humor or take the time to understand where I'm coming from. Your factually devoid criticisms are generally of little interest to me, but I will respond in this topic because there are plenty of newbs afoot and I want them to know where I stand on this all too familiar issue.

Cynicism and sarcasm aside, those of you who actually know a few things about me know that I respect strong people with confidence and character, be they Dom or sub. I am fairly private about my personal relationships, but I have never spoken about C (my recent sub of over a year) with anything but respect and admiration. She does not post here much, but by the few words she has given us and simply the posture and comportment you can see of her in my pic thread, I think even the most jaded will have to admit she is obviously a proud and sophisticated woman.

Of course, I'm sure you all remember Killishandra. Those of you implying I have no respect for a strong sub should wonder why I gave my heart to one so beautiful, confident and obviously intelligent. I could've had my pick of self-deprecating subs with no self-esteem to manipulate and abuse, yet it was one arrogant and unbridled that I had hoped to wear my collar.

A submissive is a human being like any other, and owes no suitor a courtesy he has not earned. This sub does to me sound like a bit of a bitch, but who made the rule that subs can't be bitches? There are chaste subs and very promiscuous subs, there are extroverted subs and introverted subs. Subs come in all shapes and sizes and attitudes and outlooks. Why is it that a criticism of a particular girl becomes a debate about the expectations of a sub in general?

Personally, I would never be with a sub who didn't think she was God's gift to Dominant's, because my standards are just that high. You gotta look like a model, think like an artist and fuck like a porno star to even be on my radar screen, so I can understand if a woman with those qualities feels like she has a right to be picky. It's true, I may laugh at the sub with the inflated ego that is not to my particular liking, but I bet the man she does end up with likes having a sub who thinks highly of herself. Nobody wants to feel like they earned someones love and loyalty by being the first motherfucker in line.

For reasons I would be wise not to betray the timing and content of Your post Marquis as I have interpreted it is unique. Thank You most sincerely for sharing .......with respect @}-}rebecca----

 

[Marquis]

For reasons I would be wise not to betray the timing and content of Your post Marquis as I have interpreted it is unique. Thank You most sincerely for sharing .......with respect @}-}rebecca----

How mysterious...

 

[brioche]

This is hilarious, the only person on the board more assuming and judgmental than yourself challenging you in an intellectual comedy of errors that would make the 3 stooges proud. I guess you guys will have to find a replacement for Moe now that OUTSIDEHISMIND left the troupe.

For the most part I ignore these schoolyard shenanigans. I don't expect everyone to appreciate my humor or take the time to understand where I'm coming from. Your factually devoid criticisms are generally of little interest to me, but I will respond in this topic because there are plenty of newbs afoot and I want them to know where I stand on this all too familiar issue.

Cynicism and sarcasm aside, those of you who actually know a few things about me know that I respect strong people with confidence and character, be they Dom or sub. I am fairly private about my personal relationships, but I have never spoken about C (my recent sub of over a year) with anything but respect and admiration. She does not post here much, but by the few words she has given us and simply the posture and comportment you can see of her in my pic thread, I think even the most jaded will have to admit she is obviously a proud and sophisticated woman.

Of course, I'm sure you all remember Killishandra. Those of you implying I have no respect for a strong sub should wonder why I gave my heart to one so beautiful, confident and obviously intelligent. I could've had my pick of self-deprecating subs with no self-esteem to manipulate and abuse, yet it was one arrogant and unbridled that I had hoped to wear my collar.

A submissive is a human being like any other, and owes no suitor a courtesy he has not earned. This sub does to me sound like a bit of a bitch, but who made the rule that subs can't be bitches? There are chaste subs and very promiscuous subs, there are extroverted subs and introverted subs. Subs come in all shapes and sizes and attitudes and outlooks. Why is it that a criticism of a particular girl becomes a debate about the expectations of a sub in general?

Personally, I would never be with a sub who didn't think she was God's gift to Dominant's, because my standards are just that high. You gotta look like a model, think like an artist and fuck like a porno star to even be on my radar screen, so I can understand if a woman with those qualities feels like she has a right to be picky. It's true, I may laugh at the sub with the inflated ego that is not to my particular liking, but I bet the man she does end up with likes having a sub who thinks highly of herself. Nobody wants to feel like they earned someones love and loyalty by being the first motherfucker in line.

Well, Marquis, for the most part you have left me speechless.
That's mostly a good thing.
I could be a lot of things on this board. I tend to be a bitch. There are quite a few facets of my personality that will never come to light on this board, because I am a private person and do not feel comfortable sharing them.

I do not appreciate being called a stooge. Ever.

The line "factually devoid criticisms" also gives me pause, though for a different reason.

You've given me something to consider Marquis, though as usual I am left not knowing where you stand.

This requires pondering.

 

[Marquis]

You've given me something to consider Marquis, though as usual I am left not knowing where you stand.

Really?

I find this comment most ironic considering the tremendous disparity between the amount of courtesy you show me publicly and privately.

All in all, I think I've been very consistent, and nothing if not clear.

 

[brioche]

Really?

I find this comment most ironic considering the tremendous disparity between the amount of courtesy you show me publicly and privately.

All in all, I think I've been very consistent, and nothing if not clear.

I sometimes have trouble with you determining where the man ends and the image begins. It's an issue I've had for some time, it's just not that significant on the whole.

On the few occasions on which we have spoken privately, I have been very respectful.I don't deny that. Usually however, we are discussing topics either more private than those that are routinely viewed on this board or you are doing a me a favor. I simply evaluated those situations as ones requiring more moderate behaviour. I don't think it's polite to ask someone to go out of their way and then annoy them for it. But more about that in a moment.

One of the reasons I contacted Marquis recently was as a fellow person with a psychiatric issue. I felt that he had done an extraordinary job with his collarme profile, and I told him he should be proud of it. It's not easy to choose the words to explain a situation like mine, and I imagine it's the same for him, but he did a great job. Yet at the same time I was engaging in a thread with him that was less than polite. True.

I am going to go away for a few days. I may still be looking at posts, but I won't be posting. During that time I am going to decide what form, if any, my posts on the board should take. I may be a bitch, but I am not only a bitch, and I am certainly not a buffoon or a stooge, and do not appreciate being regarded as one. My feelings are not hurt, however - this is a more introspective sort of silence. It is quite possble 'I have crossed a line I shouldn't have, and so I shall reflect.

 

[Marquis]

I sometimes have trouble with you determining where the man ends and the image begins.

He is I and I am him.

I'm disappointed that you took my comments so personally as to warrant a hiatus, but that's your prerogative. In our personal conversations I think you approached me honestly and earnestly, and I think you will agree that I took a lot of care in trying to provide you with the information you were looking for. Show me half that courtesy in public and I would never have a bad thing to say about you. I'm not demanding anything, just saying that if you choose to insult me you can expect me to defend myself.

I look forward to your return.

 

[Slutacus]

This is hilarious, the only person on the board more assuming and judgmental than yourself challenging you in an intellectual comedy of errors that would make the 3 stooges proud. I guess you guys will have to find a replacement for Moe now that OUTSIDEHISMIND left the troupe.

When I read the above, I first thought: He's wrong, there are already three stooges here, no need of any replacements. Next thought was, that's not necessarily true for him, as my stooges are not his stooges. Next in the logic chain is this, and I am not entirely sure about it, but will put it out for general comment: I think everybody on this board, on all message boards, is as assuming and judgemental as the most outwardly intolerant poster we know of. Everybody reads certain messages and decides to despise so-and-so for posting them. Everyone's group of so-and-so's is different than everyone else's although there are probably certain obvious targets that a lot of us hold in common. We are all extremely assuming and judgemental but not always about the same things, given our unique experiences, backgrounds, and the differing ideas we have been propogandized or brainwashed with. And there are hundreds of ways of expressing (or not expressing--some people are brilliant at this) such feelings. But inside one's own head or maybe in private to close friends, we all judge, we all assume things, we all are extremely intolerant. I think it's useful to point such things out when you see them, Marquis, because it gives the rest of us an opportunity to examine ourselves and see how we do it too.

What I wonder about is what makes one person more intolerant, assuming, or judgemental than another? The fact that they display it openly (or even surreptitiously, but in a stuipid or obvious way)? If you posit, as I do, that everybody feels these things and feels them strongly, then at very least, those individuals who display these feelings openly, in addition to displaying these negative traits, are also exhibiting courage and honesty--at least moreso than those of us who keep most or all of our attitudes toward others inside.

 

[Marquis]

If you posit, as I do...

I don't.

 

[Kajira Callista]

hmmmm i don't know...for the most part i find the people here very tolerant, albeit sometimes they need to be reminded that they are.

 

[catalina_francisco]

hmmmm i don't know...for the most part i find the people here very tolerant, albeit sometimes they need to be reminded that they are.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Hmm, well seeing as collarme.com seems to often be the topic of choice these days, F decided to do a profile and give it a go. LOL, for a pic he submitted one of me in bondage, just a section of my back, no butt, no boobs, just midback and shoulders in black rope.....they rejected it on the grounds it was inappropriate, go figure .....has reinforced my first impression of the site several months ago which was not good or a place to be taken seriously.

Catalina

 

[Marquis]

Collarme used to allow bondage pictures, I think they don't anymore for legal reasons.