Texas law won't allow pregnant woman to be taken off life support
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And that's all you have to say? Ha
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If your brain is dead, how does your body work?
Does it work the same? Do your organs and uterus perform the same way? The brain sends messages to the body. What happens when the brain dies?
Does it work the same? Do your organs and uterus perform the same way? The brain sends messages to the body. What happens when the brain dies?
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well... i'm pretty sure there is extensive experience of how brain dead bodies function. they've been kept going on life support for years. their hearts still beat. lots of the systems function just fine.
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I'm talking about the brain function of the baby, not the mother. They don't know how to test that accurately.
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The baby could be in much the same condition as the mother for all anyone knows. All higher brain functions gone, just autonomic systems working enough to keep the heart going.
IF it actually survives until it should be viable outside of the womb and turns out to be completely brain dead or so mentally incapacitated that public assistance is necessary for the remainder of whatever life it has. Then what?
Then they complain about having their taxes support a child who they insisted be born.
Of course it might be just fine. But what are the chances of that if the mother (who provides all of the oxygen the baby needs) was so oxygen deprived that she's completely brain dead?
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Your body doesn't work when your brain dies, you sit around the house all day watching Rush Limbaugh and post in the RWCJ threads.
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Hypothalamus. Mum's Hypothalamus is functioning just fine. The baby gets much needed oxygen. I understand all of that.
How far along is the baby? Does anyone know?
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i hope people are going in there around the clock, talking and singing to the baby. so much growth and development is happening in utero. bonding occurs. if they force the mother to stay hooked up, there is a responsibility to provide the best environment for the growing fetus.
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That's the part that kills me....they insist on creating their own problem.
It's like they live to bitch and complain...and give themselves more reasons to bitch and complain.
They are pro life....but pro death penalty....which also cost 7-9 times as much as life in prison. Once again they don't want to pay that bill either.
No sex ed!!! No contraceptive availability BAN IT!!!! (next year) "Why should I have to pay for all these unwanted kids!!"
absolute fucking morons....
Astro...fuckin'...nomical.
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PUBLISHED: 23 December 2013
"Marlise was 14 weeks pregnant at the time, too early in the pregnancy for the baby to survive outside the mother."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-wants-pregnant-wife-taken-life-support.html
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/marlise-munoz-s-life-support-removal-order-mulled-by-hospital-1.2511425
Executives from a Texas hospital conferred with the county district attorney's office Saturday to determine their next step, after a judge ordered the hospital to remove a pregnant, brain-dead woman from life support.
Officials from John Peter Smith Hospital and the Tarrant County district attorney's office, which is representing the county-owned hospital, met to discuss Judge R. H. Wallace Jr.'s order regarding Marlise Munoz, hospital spokeswoman J.R. Labbe said. She declined to say whether a possible appeal was being discussed, but said an announcement wouldn't come Saturday.
'Her limbs have become so stiff and rigid due to her deteriorating condition that now, when I move her hands, her bones crack, and her legs are nothing more than dead weight.'- Erick Munoz, husband of Marlise Munoz
Both the hospital and family agree that Marlise Munoz meets the criteria to be considered brain-dead — which means she is dead both medically and under Texas law — and that her fetus could not be born alive this early in pregnancy. But the hospital says it's obligated to protect the fetus, while Munoz's husband, Erick Munoz, says his wife wouldn't have wanted to be kept in this condition. His attorneys have said medical records show the fetus is "distinctly abnormal."
Wallace sided with Erick Munoz on Friday and gave the Fort Worth hospital until 5 p.m. Monday to take Marlise Munoz off life support. She was 14 weeks pregnant with their second child when her husband found her unconscious Nov. 26, possibly due to a blood clot.
The judge's ruling could give Erick Munoz a long-awaited chance to bury his wife and move forward to care for their son and his relatives. It would also mean the fetus would never be born.
The case has raised questions about end-of-life care and whether a pregnant woman who is considered legally and medically dead should be kept on life support for the sake of a fetus. It also has gripped attention on both sides of the abortion debate, with anti-abortion groups arguing Munoz's fetus deserves a chance to be born. Several anti-abortion advocates attended Friday's hearing.
Hospital officials have said they were bound by the Texas Advance Directives Act, which prohibits withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment from a pregnant patient. But in his brief ruling, Wallace said that "Mrs. Munoz is dead," meaning that the hospital was misapplying the law. The ruling did not mention the fetus.
The hospital has not pronounced her dead and has continued to treat her over the objections of both Erick Munoz and her parents, who sat together in court Friday.
Larry Thompson, a state's attorney representing the public hospital, told the judge Friday that the hospital recognized the Munoz family's pain and rights, but said it had a greater legal responsibility to protect the fetus.
As Wallace gave his ruling, Erick Munoz embraced his wife's parents and one of his attorneys. Munoz declined to comment as he left court Friday. But he told The Associated Press earlier this month, in a phone interview sitting in the hospital room, that he and his wife were both paramedics who knew they didn't want to stay on life support this way.
Munoz described in a signed affidavit filed Thursday what it was like to see her now: her glassy, "soulless" eyes; and the smell of her perfume replaced by what he knows to be the smell of death. He said he's tried to hold her hand but can't.
"Her limbs have become so stiff and rigid due to her deteriorating condition that now, when I move her hands, her bones crack, and her legs are nothing more than dead weight," Munoz said.
Jessica Hall Janicek and Heather King, Erick Munoz's attorneys, accused the hospital of conducting a "science experiment" and warned of the dangerous precedent her case could set, raising the spectre of special ICUs for brain-dead women carrying babies.
King and Janicek did not say what they would do next, pending the potential appeal by the hospital.
Executives from a Texas hospital conferred with the county district attorney's office Saturday to determine their next step, after a judge ordered the hospital to remove a pregnant, brain-dead woman from life support.
Officials from John Peter Smith Hospital and the Tarrant County district attorney's office, which is representing the county-owned hospital, met to discuss Judge R. H. Wallace Jr.'s order regarding Marlise Munoz, hospital spokeswoman J.R. Labbe said. She declined to say whether a possible appeal was being discussed, but said an announcement wouldn't come Saturday.
'Her limbs have become so stiff and rigid due to her deteriorating condition that now, when I move her hands, her bones crack, and her legs are nothing more than dead weight.'- Erick Munoz, husband of Marlise Munoz
Both the hospital and family agree that Marlise Munoz meets the criteria to be considered brain-dead — which means she is dead both medically and under Texas law — and that her fetus could not be born alive this early in pregnancy. But the hospital says it's obligated to protect the fetus, while Munoz's husband, Erick Munoz, says his wife wouldn't have wanted to be kept in this condition. His attorneys have said medical records show the fetus is "distinctly abnormal."
Wallace sided with Erick Munoz on Friday and gave the Fort Worth hospital until 5 p.m. Monday to take Marlise Munoz off life support. She was 14 weeks pregnant with their second child when her husband found her unconscious Nov. 26, possibly due to a blood clot.
The judge's ruling could give Erick Munoz a long-awaited chance to bury his wife and move forward to care for their son and his relatives. It would also mean the fetus would never be born.
The case has raised questions about end-of-life care and whether a pregnant woman who is considered legally and medically dead should be kept on life support for the sake of a fetus. It also has gripped attention on both sides of the abortion debate, with anti-abortion groups arguing Munoz's fetus deserves a chance to be born. Several anti-abortion advocates attended Friday's hearing.
Hospital officials have said they were bound by the Texas Advance Directives Act, which prohibits withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment from a pregnant patient. But in his brief ruling, Wallace said that "Mrs. Munoz is dead," meaning that the hospital was misapplying the law. The ruling did not mention the fetus.
The hospital has not pronounced her dead and has continued to treat her over the objections of both Erick Munoz and her parents, who sat together in court Friday.
Larry Thompson, a state's attorney representing the public hospital, told the judge Friday that the hospital recognized the Munoz family's pain and rights, but said it had a greater legal responsibility to protect the fetus.
As Wallace gave his ruling, Erick Munoz embraced his wife's parents and one of his attorneys. Munoz declined to comment as he left court Friday. But he told The Associated Press earlier this month, in a phone interview sitting in the hospital room, that he and his wife were both paramedics who knew they didn't want to stay on life support this way.
Munoz described in a signed affidavit filed Thursday what it was like to see her now: her glassy, "soulless" eyes; and the smell of her perfume replaced by what he knows to be the smell of death. He said he's tried to hold her hand but can't.
"Her limbs have become so stiff and rigid due to her deteriorating condition that now, when I move her hands, her bones crack, and her legs are nothing more than dead weight," Munoz said.
Jessica Hall Janicek and Heather King, Erick Munoz's attorneys, accused the hospital of conducting a "science experiment" and warned of the dangerous precedent her case could set, raising the spectre of special ICUs for brain-dead women carrying babies.
King and Janicek did not say what they would do next, pending the potential appeal by the hospital.
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Yeah sorry but this whole post is old news. Last week a judge ruled that the hospital was over reaching and ordered the woman taken off life support by 5pm today. They pulled the plug yesterday. End of story.
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yeah sorry but his post was posted on the 5th, before last week. when it was still a running story.
twit.
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You have a hard time reading don't you short bus. PErhaps next time double check before you try being a twat.
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