The 2002 World Cup Thread

[fanzee1]

I dont now what game you was watching but the whistle wasn't blown till the ball hit the net.

And how do you explain the headed goal that was disallowed TV replays clearly showed there was no foul commited by the spanish.

This worldcup is weighted in Koreas favour. Have to be blind to not see that.

the phantom foul was more mysterious than the over-the-endline call. The whistle was late on the over the line call but the flag went up before the cross was even made. I will say that for the linesman, which ain't much. The whistle came later but the call -- a terrible one -- was timely.

 

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1401st Post!

 

[District Line]

Watching it now another thing that bothers me why are the koreans getting away with falling over after the smallest brush with the spanish players is'nt that play acting, they was meant to be getting strict on for this worldcup.

And shirt pulling by korea on the spanish.

That criticism is harsh. We've seen that many times in the tournament, it's an unattractive feature. However, players from all teams have done it and have got away with it, maybe even England players.

Originally posted by solid_
What the fuck was Seaman thinking, being off his line.

And while I'm on it, why cant Beckham stay on his feet he spent most the game on his arse. He was lucky to not be red carded in the later stages with him diveing in the penalty box.

England sucked big time today played with out passion and conviction to many players had poor games the passing was all over the shop. They defended to deep and let Brasil run at them, maybe they had a late night of doing the wrong sort of scoring before the match. There wifes and girlfriends arrived in japan the previous night.

All in all though Sven was just useing this worldcup to give the young players some experiance Germany 2006 is the one he's allways had his sights on.

Average age of Englands outfield players 24, time is on there side.

 

[p_p_man]

Has anyone else heard...

that the Turkish team is on a 'name your own figure' bonus if they win the Cup.

That's what the commentator said on UK TV.

I can't really believe it myself but where I was watching the game we all heard it.

How high would you go if their was no upper limit?

The mind boggles...

 

[District Line]

p_p_man,

What's your take on the S. Korea vs Spain and the Korean's previous game ?

We're having some good banter about it.

 

[p_p_man]

p_p_man,

What's your take on the S. Korea vs Spain and the Korean's previous game ?

We're having some good banter about it.

Yes I'm reading through it now.

When I first heard about assistance from officials to get the South Koreans through if they could, I discounted the charge.

But as the tournement has progressed I have to agree that the standard of refereeing and line judging has dropped in some cases. But in a game which has become faster and more prone to either side 'cheating' in terms of on field play. I'm not so sure whether the officials are deliberately making incorrect decisions or whether they are genuinely missing some of the action.

I know that this morning both teams were fairly evenly matched but in different ways. Spain with the fairly ponderous European style of playing and South Korea with their more flair appeared to even each other out.

But as for questionable decisions I wouldn't like to say except that the issue has grown large enough to be mentioned in the studio during half time. Not a great mention, more of a passing reference really.

So if something peculiar has been noticed by the experts there may something in it.

 

[p_p_man]

It's just been announced on the news...

that FIFA have now agreed there have been some incorrect refereeing decisions. They've cited the disallowed Spanish goal against South Korea as just one example.

 

[fanzee1]

everybody ready for the semis?

see you guys at game time!

 

[cybergirly]

I'll be here

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Re: It's just been announced on the news...

that FIFA have now agreed there have been some incorrect refereeing decisions. They've cited the disallowed Spanish goal against South Korea as just one example.

Nothing like rubbing it in is there.

Gametime T-4 hours....

Germans win

Pick the scoreline

Oh yeah

1-0 to a header.

Dare to be different I always say

 

[Dougy]

All I know is whatever I say will happen is bound not to in this WC. Did a WC prediction thing and I am currently sitting at 72,800 and something of about 76,000...this means that South Korea still have a chance.

 

[tin_tinr]

instead of trying to guess the final score of todays semi
final, i think it would be more appropriate to try and
guess how many goals the germans have disallowed
its fairly obvious fifas pushing for soccer recognition in asia

 

[Dougy]

Funny, I haven't heard any South Koreans complaining about that Apollo Ono speed skating thing in the last week...

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Ok I'll push the edges

2 headers disallowed for holding in the box.

And Korea gets a penalty or dodgy free right near the box, Kahn pulls off a great save.

 

[tin_tinr]

Funny, I haven't heard any South Koreans complaining about that Apollo Ono speed skating thing in the last week...

one dodgy decision may be classed as human error
but four or five decisions in favour of the same team
then even the most ardent south korean must suspect
something fishy is going on

 

[fanzee1]

instead of trying to guess the final score of todays semi
final, i think it would be more appropriate to try and
guess how many goals the germans have disallowed
its fairly obvious fifas pushing for soccer recognition in asia

lol

 

[Gord]

one dodgy decision may be classed as human error
but four or five decisions in favour of the same team
then even the most ardent south korean must suspect
something fishy is going on

Even though it pains me to shout for herr huber doitch land - the koreans just should not be in the compt - both Italy and Spain had clear winning goals chalked off- I dont think it is a conspiracy theory a la grassy knowle etc, just home refs going with the home crowd - it happens to Man U every time at old trafford - but they have been some pretty blatant boobs

If this doesnt make my case for some sort of fourth official with the ability to make final check on an instant replay then I dont know what does

How easy would it have been for a fourth official to say the Spanish golden goal was GOOD and not out of play

We need some more justice in the game - humans are too prone to make shit calls

 

[tin_tinr]

Even though it pains me to shout for herr huber doitch land - the koreans just should not be in the compt - both Italy and Spain had clear winning goals chalked off- I dont think it is a conspiracy theory a la grassy knowle etc, just home refs going with the home crowd - it happens to Man U every time at old trafford - but they have been some pretty blatant boobs

If this doesnt make my case for some sort of fourth official with the ability to make final check on an instant replay then I dont know what does

How easy would it have been for a fourth official to say the Spanish golden goal was GOOD and not out of play

We need some more justice in the game - humans are too prone to make shit calls

are you saying the game should introduce a video ref ?
i think it would be a good idea they have introduced one into the
rugby leaugue and any time a disputed try arises then the
ref is in communication with the video ref who watches the replay and gives his verdict which is final thus elimanating any
dodgy decisions

 

[Gord]

are you saying the game should introduce a video ref ?
i think it would be a good idea they have introduced one into the
rugby leaugue and any time a disputed try arises then the
ref is in communication with the video ref who watches the replay and gives his verdict which is final thus elimanating any
dodgy decisions

For sure

It also happens in Rugby Union - if the ref is not sure he calls on fourth official who does quick check to see if the try was good - it doesnt take long - it adds to the exctiement - every major sporting game has some sort of electronic aid

RL RU cricket , American Footie , I just dont see what the problem is - just do it for goals - ie was he in touch was he blatantly offside - it would end all this injustice. The game is too imprtant for South Korea to get through like they have - if they do win they will always be tainted by these dodgy calls -

 

[Rex1960]

my 2p

Hopefully todays semifinal is fair for both teams.
I don't see a referee problem but there is definately a prob with those unexperienced linesman. Fifa has to work on that.
But how can Blatter win the next election without the support of nations only able to send referees instead of soccer teams to a WC.

Rex

 

[fanzee1]

this has not been a great match but...

Germany toughing out another win.


they are thruogh to the final.
ballack again.


wow.

they have a chance to tie brazil for most cups now.

Of course, the brazilians also have the chance to stop them.

 

[Rex1960]

We made it

though i've never expected that before the tournament started.

And the other finalist will be...Turkey

 

[weed]

Wow, Germany has come a long way

 

[fanzee1]

For sure

It also happens in Rugby Union - if the ref is not sure he calls on fourth official who does quick check to see if the try was good - it doesnt take long - it adds to the exctiement - every major sporting game has some sort of electronic aid

RL RU cricket , American Footie , I just dont see what the problem is - just do it for goals - ie was he in touch was he blatantly offside - it would end all this injustice. The game is too imprtant for South Korea to get through like they have - if they do win they will always be tainted by these dodgy calls -

You could use it very well to judge whether the ball completely crossed a line or things like that but i would hate to see a situation where that off-field ref would award a goal to spain on the play you mentioned earlier. The whistle blew and the korean defense relaxed. It was a bad call but I don't think it's fair to award a goal in that situation. Who is to say what would have happened had the korean defense not let up at the whistle?

 

[fanzee1]

Wow, Germany has come a long way

Hello Reed! Haven't seen you on this thread before. Morning, or afternoon!