The AI & Data Center Thread

[BabyBoomer50s]

I agree, and they can be located in areas zoned for industrial use, and open space areas reasonably distant from residential neighborhoods. Plenty of depressed cities across the country can and are benefiting from the tax revenue they bring in.

I’ll add that over time, we should expect LLMs, distributed computing optimizations and chips to become more power efficient, reducing electricity consumption and cooling demands.

 

[Bray123]

Problem I see is that Trump is using tax dollars to subsidize these instead of the companies (who are already rich) paying to put their ass down and use the resources.
The tech is coming, like tractors replaced horses. But the tractor manufacturers were not subsidized by horse dealers.

If Musk, the richest person in the universe wants to build a facility he can damn well pay for it. And pay for his own hydro plant and water disposal as well.

Is that not good old-fashioned Capitalism?

 

[DeluxAuto]

Mid term politics are local. AI and DATA CENTERS will definitely be high on the list. Politicians have to be very sensitive to the concerns of their constituents or they'll lose. Evaluate the real pros and cons that affect their location and people that live there. Make a mockery of their concerns and they lose. Rise above the negative spin and adapt to this new technology. Cities and towns can win big if they play their cards right.

Explain in detail.

The traitor was forced to eject

 

[DeluxAuto]

I’ll add that over time, we should expect LLMs, distributed computing optimizations and chips to become more power efficient, reducing electricity consumption and cooling demands.

And now realize that we don't have the capacity or resources for any of that. So when idiots like Reichguide say "we need to dominate this field", know that it will never happen.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And now realize that we don't have the capacity or resources for any of that. So when idiots like Reichguide say "we need to dominate this field", know that it will never happen.

Did you type this on your Osborn computer using your Compuserve account connected to the web with your 9.6 baud modem?

LLMs are getting more powerful and more efficient literally every day. Microprocessors have been improving in price, performance and energy efficiency exponentially for decades. Same with memory and battery technologies. Software innovation continuously exploits those improvements.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Did you type this on your Osborn computer using your Compuserve account connected to the web with your 9.6 baud modem?

LLMs are getting more powerful and more efficient literally every day. Microprocessors have been improving in price, performance and energy efficiency exponentially for decades. Same with memory and battery technologies. Software innovation continuously exploits those improvements.

Wee don't have the capacity or resources to be dominate. The only way for us to keep up is to build a massive amount data centers which explicitly proves my point.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Wee don't have the capacity or resources to be dominate. The only way for us to keep up is to build a massive amount data centers which explicitly proves my point.

The US is leading the world in AI investment and innovation but other countries, including China, are not sitting back watching. It would be foolish and dangerous for the US to cede its global market position by throwing unreasonable roadblocks to data center development.

 

[DeluxAuto]

The US is leading the world in AI investment and innovation but other countries, including China, are not sitting back watching. It would be foolish and dangerous for the US to cede its global market position by throwing unreasonable roadblocks to data center development.

Other countries have the resources. We don't have them.

You really don't get it. You're a layperson regurgitating ignorance. Why do you want to destroy the Earth just to feign keeping up?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Other countries have the resources. We don't have them.

You really don't get it. You're a layperson regurgitating ignorance. Why do you want to destroy the Earth just to feign keeping up?

What countries have been leading the tech sector in the 20th and 21st century, and what countries do you expect will lead in the AI race over the next decade?

 

[DeluxAuto]

What countries have been leading the tech sector in the 20th and 21st century, and what countries do you expect will lead in the AI race over the next decade?

The US can "lead" the tech sector because they can throw money at it right now. Soon, they won't be able to. Why? Because we don't have the fucking resources.
We will always have to import anything to actually produce the tech which immediately makes it cost prohibitive.

When Trump said we were going to make iPhones, everyone should have lost all faith in him right then.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The US can "lead" the tech sector because they can throw money at it right now. Soon, they won't be able to. Why? Because we don't have the fucking resources.
We will always have to import anything to actually produce the tech which immediately makes it cost prohibitive.

When Trump said we were going to make iPhones, everyone should have lost all faith in him right then.

I didn’t expect you to answer my questions. That’s ok. I’ll help you out.

The US has led the tech sector because of smart people and private investment. The best and the brightest come to the US, as do rich and the richest private investors. The US has provided a stable government and business friendly environment for entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Larry Ellison and countless thousands to bring big ideas to life.

We have the people, the money, and all the resources needed to stay in the AI lead. We just need to make sure government doesn’t get in the way of keeping that lead. It’s not just an economic issue. It’s a matter of national security.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I didn’t expect you to answer my questions. That’s ok. I’ll help you out.

The US has led the tech sector because of smart people and private investment. The best and the brightest come to the US, as do rich and the richest private investors. The US has provided a stable government and business friendly environment for entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Larry Ellison and countless thousands to bring big ideas to life.

We have the people, the money, and all the resources needed to stay in the AI lead. We just need to make sure government doesn’t get in the way of keeping that lead. It’s not just an economic issue. It’s a matter of national security.

Why would I answer your dumb "gotcha" question when you are already convinced on your own bullshit?

Where the fuck are the products made that those innovators are responsible for?

Crack that second third bottle.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Why would I answer your dumb "gotcha" question when you are already convinced on your own bullshit?

Where the fuck are the products made that those innovators are responsible for?

Crack that second third bottle.

You wouldn’t answer because you don’t have to, and because you can’t.

The innovator’s products are manufactured all over the world, often in countries where the cost of labor is cheaper. The US advantage comes from innovation, advanced engineering and design, and entrepreneurial opportunity. That’s why capital flows to the US.

The big investors want data centers located in the US is because that’s where the most valuable data and data consumers reside. It’s also where latency is lowest, and where our stable government helps ensure data safeguards are in place.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You wouldn’t answer because you don’t have to, and because you can’t.

Bish, please. You're not sober enough to be cheeky.

The innovator’s products are manufactured all over the world, often in countries where the cost of labor is cheaper.

You literally just pointed out only one of the reasons we won't be dominant. Couple what you mistakenly got right with the fact that we have zero manufacturing our the fucking resources.

The big investors want data centers located in the US is because that’s where the most valuable data and data consumers reside.

Accidentally correct again! Well done. And here you are giving up all your data to these foreign investors for a few weeks on new "construction" labor and a fuckton of pollutants.

None of you MAGATs think anything through to the end. Trump says some dumb shit about windmills and data centers, and you muppets just nod your empty heads and smile.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Bish, please. You're not sober enough to be cheeky.

You literally just pointed out only one of the reasons we won't be dominant. Couple what you mistakenly got right with the fact that we have zero manufacturing our the fucking resources.

Accidentally correct again! Well done. And here you are giving up all your data to these foreign investors for a few weeks on new "construction" labor and a fuckton of pollutants.

None of you MAGATs think anything through to the end. Trump says some dumb shit about windmills and data centers, and you muppets just nod your empty heads and smile.

Why is so much capital flowing into the US data centers? Are you familiar with Meta? Oracle? Alphabet?

 

[DeluxAuto]

Why is so much capital flowing into the US data centers?

Because people like you and Trump are selling our data to foreign enemies, drunkard.

Are you familiar with Meta? Oracle? Alphabet?

The 3 companies that are embroiled in lawsuits worth over $18 billion for selling your grandchildren's data? The more data they buy, the more data centers they need, the more money trump and his billionaire pals make.

Again, you MAGAts never think things through.


Go back to arguing about important things like men in women's sports and renaming lakes.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Because people like you and Trump are selling our data to foreign enemies, drunkard.

The 3 companies that are embroiled in lawsuits worth over $18 billion for selling your grandchildren's data? The more data they buy, the more data centers they need, the more money trump and his billionaire pals make.

Again, you MAGAts never think things through.


Go back to arguing about important things like men in women's sports and renaming lakes.

You think people like me are selling your data? Lol. If I owned your data and could find a buyer for the data of a crazed manic depressive like you, I’d sell it in a heartbeat.

The reason data centers are becoming controversial in the US is because investors are building them all over the country. Like it or not, those resources you think are nonexistent are in fact, very existent.

Data centers are happening. It would be foolish and dangerous to force them to locate offshore.

 

[Lazaran]

Because people like you and Trump are selling our data to foreign enemies, drunkard.

The 3 companies that are embroiled in lawsuits worth over $18 billion for selling your grandchildren's data? The more data they buy, the more data centers they need, the more money trump and his billionaire pals make.

Again, you MAGAts never think things through.


Go back to arguing about important things like men in women's sports and renaming lakes.

BabyBoozer also ignores Trump’s WAR of choice in Iran that has spurred some investors to look to the U.S. for safe(r) investment opportunities…

Of course, the WAR is also costing the United States TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS and could crash the global economy, but rich investors (inside traders) and people involved in construction & chip manufacturing (now who could that be???) are CURRENTLY making some serious money (and propping up the U.S. markets before the midterms)…



Side note:

Expect another MAJOR financial crisis right before Trump leaves office in 2028 (just like in 2008) that is directly related to data centers, deregulation, and Trump’s various acts of military adventurism.





WE. TOLD. THEM. SO.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You think people like me are selling your data?

I lumped two idiots together. I mean, I know you're not smart enough to sell it; you give it to the senile fraudster, who then makes money off you.

 

[DeluxAuto]

BabyBoozer also ignores Trump’s WAR of choice in Iran that has spurred some investors to look to the U.S. for safe(r) investment opportunities…

Of course, the WAR is also costing the United States TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS and could crash the global economy, but rich investors (inside traders) and people involved in construction & chip manufacturing (now who could that be???) are CURRENTLY making some serious money (and propping up the U.S. markets before the midterms)…



Side note:

Expect another MAJOR financial crisis right before Trump leaves office in 2028 (just like in 2008) that is directly related to data centers, deregulation, and Trump’s various acts of military adventurism.





WE. TOLD. THEM. SO.

Again, they never see the big picture.

He needs to yell at all of the bad actors conducting trans surgeries in elementary schools.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Again, they never see the big picture.

He needs to yell at all of the bad actors conducting trans surgeries in elementary schools.

True or false:

Capital is flowing to states across the US to build data centers

Governments at the local, state and federal level should block them.

 

[ll74]

It seems odd that the people complaining the most about data centers don't even recognize or understand why they're needed or even are capable of understanding that they are needed.

It's like they saw one tiktok complaining about emissions or water and decided they knew it all.

 

[Rotadom]

Now they're telling us that we're too hydrated.



The administration working hard against the American people and clean water.

 

[Rotadom]

It seems odd that the people complaining the most about data centers don't even recognize or understand why they're needed or even are capable of understanding that they are needed.

It's like they saw one tiktok complaining about emissions or water and decided they knew it all.

*Needed" and selling land rights including already encroaching on National Park land while on pace for a ridiculous amount more are two very different things.

Other people know things too, .

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It seems odd that the people complaining the most about data centers don't even recognize or understand why they're needed or even are capable of understanding that they are needed.

It's like they saw one tiktok complaining about emissions or water and decided they knew it all.

And the opposition is crossing party lines. Data centers have been operating in the Bay Area for years and nobody paid attention. Now that they’re in the news, people are hearing noise they didn’t hear before, and choking on generator fumes they didn’t know existed. And they think all data centers are the same. No understanding of scale, cooling technologies, power consumption etc. They don’t pay attention to state and local standards, don’t show up to public meetings. They just bitch.