The Brutal Truth About Female Attraction

[Wilson23]

Hello? Did someone call for me?

Yeah, we want you to cut off a couple of inches . . .

 

[dirk2024]

Yeah, we want you to cut off a couple of inches . . .

Sigh...okay. The things I do to get along.

 

[Wilson23]

Sigh...okay. The things I do to get along.

Sorry, 8" is the limit round here . . .

 

[LMWM321]

Like Chris said, they're looking for a guy who is capable of winning a fight.

Nonsense.....

The threats that we face as humans have changed. Attacks from masked marauders bent on raping our wives and stealing our food are far less likely than the devastation of a family losing its health insurance because one of the partners is laid off. So, security these days means finding a good man who can get and keep a good job. ..It's not about finding a guy who can fend off bad guys with Karate.

Consequently, the young men who struggle to find a girlfriend are the ones who aren't launching into careers. If a guy still lives at home and spends his days and nights playing video games, getting high, and convincing himself that the world is rigged against him...it doesn't matter if he is 6'4", rippled with muscle, and was the star linebacker on his high school football team. Several of my friends have sons who more or less fit this description, and they struggle to find a single date. Sadly, they also spend time listening to podcasters like these two idiots.

My nephews all graduated with good degrees and have started great careers in health care and pharma. And ALL of them have very cute, very devoted girlfriends who are launching their own careers. And NONE of these young men are anywhere near 6' tall or have any experience with fist-fighting.

 

[Wilson23]

Nonsense.....

The boys who are struggling to find a girlfriend these days are the ones who aren't launching into careers;

"Money is the best aphrodisiac."

-- Lazarus Long

 

[CuriousJInLA]

I’m not speaking as an expert, but I will say I’ve had a lot of partners, and a lot I could have but didn’t, including 2 college girls very recently who wanted me to come back to their dorm room (maybe should’ve done that one ) .

I’m 44, 6’3, dad bod, average dick, receding hairline. But I’ve never found it difficult to talk and flirt, and to end up in bed.

Why I think I’m very fortunate is that I genuinely love getting to know people. And it’s sincere. Furthermore I’m luckier that I’m more attracted to personality than anything else. And in my experience woman are attracted to that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not disinterested in looks, but I find myself attracted to all types, especially if they’re funny and smart.

Point is, at least in my experience, just being real and engaging and enjoying the conversation goes further than you might think. And no matter how attractive a woman is, if I don’t enjoy it I can’t wait to get away. An average (albeit tall) guy’s perspective, which means nothing but it’s real

 

[LMWM321]

"Money is the best aphrodisiac."

-- Lazarus Long

No, not money.. More like stability and reliability.

There's nothing wrong with women wanting a man who can help bring income into the partnership and is prepared to share equally in all duties related to making a home and raising good kids. Indeed, this is precisely what I expect of my own daughters and nieces; that they have good jobs and expect their life partners to have them as well. ..The goal isn't extreme wealth, it's financial security. And, again, there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[LMWM321]

Here's another reason why these guys are misogynist nitwits.

In a clumsy attempt to describe the Cons of having a big dick, they mention a small cohort of women who have broken up with a man because his dick was too long.

These idiots don't even contemplate that a woman could deal with this issue by simply telling the guy "Hey, not quite so deep." and that a decent guy would comply with the request instead of continue to bang her cervix.

Nope. I guess in their world, a woman has 2 choices. Take the guys whole dick despite painful cervix battering, and do so without complaint... Or, find another man... Gross.

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

I used to read personal ads, and it's unbelievable how often the ladies specify "tall."

The real brutal truth is that women don't care as much about dick sizes as most guys believe. But they care much more about another equally immutable characteristic - height. It is the end all be all to all her requirements. Anything women claim they want: kindness, charming personality, earning well etc is on top of being tall. You can have every single thing women want, but if you don't meet her height requirements, usually more than the average height of the country or 6ft, she's not going to be with you.

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

I’m not speaking as an expert, but I will say I’ve had a lot of partners, and a lot I could have but didn’t, including 2 college girls very recently who wanted me to come back to their dorm room (maybe should’ve done that one ) .

I’m 44, 6’3, dad bod, average dick, receding hairline. But I’ve never found it difficult to talk and flirt, and to end up in bed.

Why I think I’m very fortunate is that I genuinely love getting to know people. And it’s sincere. Furthermore I’m luckier that I’m more attracted to personality than anything else. And in my experience woman are attracted to that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not disinterested in looks, but I find myself attracted to all types, especially if they’re funny and smart.

Point is, at least in my experience, just being real and engaging and enjoying the conversation goes further than you might think. And no matter how attractive a woman is, if I don’t enjoy it I can’t wait to get away. An average (albeit tall) guy’s perspective, which means nothing but it’s real

Sorry to burst your bubble but your personality is the fact that you're 6'3". Or at least it does most of the heavy lifting. The average guy does not have a lot of partners, either you're ignorant of the fact or you're humble bragging.

 

[jdolinger]

Nonsense.....

The threats that we face as humans have changed. Attacks from masked marauders bent on raping our wives and stealing our food are far less likely than the devastation of a family losing its health insurance because one of the partners is laid off. So, security these days means finding a good man who can get and keep a good job. ..It's not about finding a guy who can fend off bad guys with Karate.

Consequently, the young men who struggle to find a girlfriend are the ones who aren't launching into careers. If a guy still lives at home and spends his days and nights playing video games, getting high, and convincing himself that the world is rigged against him...it doesn't matter if he is 6'4", rippled with muscle, and was the star linebacker on his high school football team. Several of my friends have sons who more or less fit this description, and they struggle to find a single date. Sadly, they also spend time listening to podcasters like these two idiots.

My nephews all graduated with good degrees and have started great careers in health care and pharma. And ALL of them have very cute, very devoted girlfriends who are launching their own careers. And NONE of these young men are anywhere near 6' tall or have any experience with fist-fighting.

I don't think fundamental aspects of biology suddenly change because of developments in economics and a lower crime rate over the past century

 

[jdolinger]

What's the part you consider "brutal?"

That women do indeed select for qualities which are immutable

 

[LMWM321]

I don't think fundamental aspects of biology suddenly change because of developments in economics and a lower crime rate over the past century

Ten thousand years ago a woman's preference for a brutish man who can fend off ne'er-do-wells was rooted as much in her reasoning as her biology, maybe more. We are an adaptive species with extraordinary cognitive abilities.

By your logic, none of us would ever board an airplane because we are wingless creatures who naturally fear heights. Yet, in 2025 nearly everyone is comfortable soaring 30,000 ft above earth in an Airliner. Again, cognition rules.

As I said earlier, pretty much every young man in my daughter's friend group has a solid career underway and they all have a very attractive girlfriend. And NONE of them is particularly tall or adept at fist-fighting. Meanwhile, the gym I attend is FILLED with muscular bad-asses who still live with their parents. ..And most are very much single. ..And it's fun watching how LITTLE attention the pretty girls at the gym pay them. ..It's like those guys are invisible to them.

These days, being a protective husband and father is NOT about being able to wield a sword..or being able to put some attacker in a chokehold. ..It's being able to ensure the family won't lose its house or health insurance. THAT is present day security.

And another thing to consider. Women know that a man who is wired and built for the sort of brutality that might have been an advantage thousands of years ago is ALSO more apt to use violence to settle heated arguments that arise within a marriage. So yeah, there's that too..

 

[lil_jenni]

I can't speak for women as a whole, as such hypergeneralizations are nonsensical, but I can say a big turn off for me is a bunch of guys thinking they know what any particular woman, let alone women in general, want out of a man or a relationship with a man.

Oh, and evolutionary biology becomes exponentially less predictive the more that behavioral adaptations interlace with biological adaptions within a given population.

 

[jdolinger]

Ten thousand years ago a woman's preference for a brutish man who can fend off ne'er-do-wells was rooted as much in her reasoning as her biology, maybe more. We are an adaptive species with extraordinary cognitive abilities.

Fair enough. But it remains true that physical strength is an attribute that the vast majority of women find attractive in a math for any number of reasons, not just the narrow definition you've provided here.

As I said earlier, pretty much every young man in my daughter's friend group has a solid career underway and they all have a very attractive girlfriend. And NONE of them is particularly tall or adept at fist-fighting. Meanwhile, the gym I attend is FILLED with muscular bad-asses who still live with their parents. ..And most are very much single. ..And it's fun watching how LITTLE attention the pretty girls at the gym pay them. ..It's like those guys are invisible to them.

I never said physical strength was the ONLY attribute women find attractive. Intelligence and cues for resource provision are found to be attractive as well. There isn't one singular attribute which trumps them all.

And another thing to consider. Women know that a man who is wired and built for the sort of brutality that might have been an advantage thousands of years ago is ALSO more apt to use violence to settle heated arguments that arise within a marriage. So yeah, there's that too..

That's a non-sequitur. Physical strength by itself must be accompanied with emotional regulation. But all other things being equal, a woman is going to find a guy who is in shape to be more attractive than a guy who is not. That's reality. And I'm not even talking about the "gym bros" or the "muscular bad-asses."

 

[jdolinger]

I can't speak for women as a whole, as such hypergeneralizations are nonsensical, but I can say a big turn off for me is a bunch of guys thinking they know what any particular woman, let alone women in general, want out of a man or a relationship with a man.

I'm not hypergeneralizing anyone, but okay. A generalization, by definition, is not thinking anything about any particular woman's preferences. We're talking about the aggregate population.

Oh, and evolutionary biology becomes exponentially less predictive the more that behavioral adaptations interlace with biological adaptions within a given population.

Can you expound upon this further?

 

[LMWM321]

Here's the brutal truth. And it really isn’t all that brutal.

Unless you'd rather die alone, everyone compromises on what they would "ideally" want in a partner. Whether it's height, body-type, full head of hair, breast size, and yes... dick size. ..Just to name a few.

I had a friend in college who didn't get laid ONCE during his four years because he always pursued girls who fit his version of "perfect" - which were girls very pretty, thin, busty, and well-dressed. And he was, well... average looking; kinda short, overweight and dressed rather frumpily.

I was always amused by how he endlessly fumed how ALL the girls he liked were "so shallow" for not being interested in him. And maybe they were, maybe they did define attractiveness too narrowly. But so did he!! And he was completely oblivious to his own shallowness.

I think the same could be said of these nitwits in this video.

 

[jdolinger]

Here's the brutal truth. And it really isn’t all that brutal.

Unless you'd rather die alone, everyone compromises on what they would "ideally" want in a partner. Whether it's height, body-type, full head of hair, breast size, and yes... dick size. ..Just to name a few.

Sure. I agree with you there. You're never going to get everything you want in a romantic partner. That's life. However, every individual person will compromise differently. It just depends upon what you consider your top priorities.

Of course I'm going to be alone because I don't have ANY of these attributes which women want.