The Brutal Truth About Female Attraction

[AtramentousRex]

This is the inevitable result of societal programming and how ingrained it can become.

 

[LMWM321]

"this ideology is just so cracked. I’d love to form an intellectual debate, but at this point it’s a laughable waste of time."

Yum. You are a wordsmyth. I am excited by that.

-Your argument has been heard (by me, at least). But it DO NOT fucking matter. This is the REALITY!!

You want your boy to be a big shot? He's not gonna be. Thjere is NOTHING out there pointing to even pretending to be. There is absolutely ZERO method nor reason to become... big boys.

There's Sports. And even THAT is now being ruined by money.


As a Mother? Yer up against it.

Would you please proofread your posts? I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say. I'm beginning to think you're just a bot.

 

[geoff0833]

The real brutal truth is that women don't care as much about dick sizes as most guys believe. But they care much more about another equally immutable characteristic - height. It is the end all be all to all her requirements. Anything women claim they want: kindness, charming personality, earning well etc is on top of being tall. You can have every single thing women want, but if you don't meet her height requirements, usually more than the average height of the country or 6ft, she's not going to be with you.

I have four grown sons. One would be considered shortish-5'9". But he has the least issue attracting women because he has the one trait that trumps all others. Charisma.

 

[BillyWalrus]

I have four grown sons. One would be considered shortish-5'9". But he has the least issue attracting women because he has the one trait that trumps all others. Charisma.

Yes, I have a son like that too. He is a good looking guy but it's his natural charm that attracts women like bees to honey.

 

[geoff0833]

Yes, I have a son like that too. He is a good looking guy but it's his natural charm that attracts women like bees to honey.

With my son the most striking manifestation is with little kids. They absolutely adore him-almost instantly. The worrying aspect for me has always been that charisma is like a blank cheque. In the wrong persons hands it can be used to exploit others. So far so good though.

 

[BillyWalrus]

With my son the most striking manifestation is with little kids. They absolutely adore him-almost instantly. The worrying aspect for me has always been that charisma is like a blank cheque. In the wrong persons hands it can be used to exploit others. So far so good though.

Little kids adore me. In the grocery toddlers will leave their mothers to follow me around. Literally! I wish I had the same magnetism with women!

 

[geoff0833]

Little kids adore me. In the grocery toddlers will leave their mothers to follow me around. Literally! I wish I had the same magnetism with women!

Single mums could be a goer.

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

I have four grown sons. One would be considered shortish-5'9". But he has the least issue attracting women because he has the one trait that trumps all others. Charisma.

5'9" is just an inch below the average. Of course other traits can help make up for it. But that does not detract from the fact that every single woman wants a tall man. If he was 5'6" no amount of "charisma" would make up for his lack of height.

With my son the most striking manifestation is with little kids. They absolutely adore him-almost instantly. The worrying aspect for me has always been that charisma is like a blank cheque. In the wrong persons hands it can be used to exploit others. So far so good though.

This tells me that he's extremely good looking. It's not his charisma, it's his good looks. Of course someone like Tom Cruise who's short but looks extremely good will do well with women, he's the exception, not the rule. That's why little kids like him immediately - because he's good looking. If he was ugly then they'd run away screaming in fear. The reason you think he has a good personality is because he has good looks.

https://i.redd.it/pd98ilsxl7le1.jpeg

 

[BillyWalrus]

5'9" is just an inch below the average. Of course other traits can help make up for it. But that does not detract from the fact that every single woman wants a tall man. If he was 5'6" no amount of "charisma" would make up for his lack of height.

This tells me that he's extremely good looking. It's not his charisma, it's his good looks. Of course someone like Tom Cruise who's short but looks extremely good will do well with women, he's the exception, not the rule. That's why little kids like him immediately - because he's good looking. If he was ugly then they'd run away screaming in fear. The reason you think he has a good personality is because he has good looks.

https://i.redd.it/pd98ilsxl7le1.jpeg

Little kids like attractive people? There are a lot of attractive people in my grocery store but little kids are not following them around like me. Their mothers will be a little annoyed, "Stop following that man!". I think it's amusing but I can see why they are annoyed.

 

[LMWM321]

But that does not detract from the fact that every single woman wants a tall man.

This is so ridiculous it almost doesn’t warrant a response…

Nearly every man “wants” a woman with bigger than average breasts. Yet the majority of men marry a woman whose breasts are average. The fact that one has a preference doesn’t mean they disqualify on the basis of that preference.

None of my nephews are taller than 5’8” and they all have pretty girlfriends. And if they were asked, “would you like it if your boyfriend (my nephew) woke up tomorrow and was 6‘1“ ?” They would probably all say “”Sure, that would be great.” So what?

This is assinine.

 

[geoff0833]

5'9" is just an inch below the average. Of course other traits can help make up for it. But that does not detract from the fact that every single woman wants a tall man. If he was 5'6" no amount of "charisma" would make up for his lack of height.

This tells me that he's extremely good looking. It's not his charisma, it's his good looks. Of course someone like Tom Cruise who's short but looks extremely good will do well with women, he's the exception, not the rule. That's why little kids like him immediately - because he's good looking. If he was ugly then they'd run away screaming in fear. The reason you think he has a good personality is because he has good looks.

I wasn't talking about his looks. He's just average looking. I was talking about charisma.

 

[EvaLane]

Somewhere out there is a woman who gave the trollish-stature man a shot and settled down with him only to eventually pull up his browser full of women who look the complete opposite of her

 

[dodgeboy2]

Brutal but interesting. Of course on Lit all the guys are 6'4" with 8 inch dicks!

God 6" short in height and 4" in length here, LOL!

 

[bijedi]

After watching that entire thing, it is my opinion that these men have way more experience with hypothetical women that are amalgamations of statistics than they do with actual living, breathing, flesh and blood women. So if you are more interested in ersatz women that you can discuss on anonymous message boards, watch more videos like this. If you are interested in a relationship with an actual person, go out and meet and talk to and learn from actual real women.

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

Little kids like attractive people? There are a lot of attractive people in my grocery store but little kids are not following them around like me. Their mothers will be a little annoyed, "Stop following that man!". I think it's amusing but I can see why they are annoyed.

They're obviously not going to follow them around but they will look on in awe.

This is so ridiculous it almost doesn’t warrant a response…

Nearly every man “wants” a woman with bigger than average breasts. Yet the majority of men marry a woman whose breasts are average. The fact that one has a preference doesn’t mean they disqualify on the basis of that preference.

None of my nephews are taller than 5’8” and they all have pretty girlfriends. And if they were asked, “would you like it if your boyfriend (my nephew) woke up tomorrow and was 6‘1“ ?” They would probably all say “”Sure, that would be great.” So what?

This is assinine.

Why are you lying? There are men who actively prefer small breasts. There are men who actively prefer thicc women. There are men who actively prefer body hair. There are men that actively prefer older women. Our tastes are extremely varied. But no woman actively prefers a short man. Sure, they might tolerate him at best but no man wants to just be tolerated.

I wasn't talking about his looks. He's just average looking. I was talking about charisma.

Looks are charisma, or at least a big part of it. That's what the graph I attached proves.

Somewhere out there is a woman who gave the trollish-stature man a shot and settled down with him only to eventually pull up his browser full of women who look the complete opposite of her

See this is my point. You give the short man a "chance", out of pity. That's humiliating. No one wants this pity.

I don't get what all this seethe is about. Are you lot trying to argue that women are NOT attracted to tall men? If you agree with that, then you're arguing just for the sake of arguing.

There's nothing wrong with being attracted to tall men. Just don't lie about it or try to moralize it.

 

[EvaLane]

There's nothing wrong with being attracted to tall men. Just don't lie about it or try to moralize it.

It’s disingenuous to come off as if you’re merely listing preferences without behaving as if it’s the end all be all to your lineage continuing, but ok

 

[BillyWalrus]

It’s disingenuous to come off as if you’re merely listing preferences without behaving as if it’s the end all be all to your lineage continuing, but ok

You make a good point. If height was the be all and end all, eventually shorter than average men would be bred out of the gene pool.

 

[LMWM321]

Are you lot trying to argue that women are NOT attracted to tall men?

Not if a man is unattractive or has a bad personality, they’re not.

What you were saying is, basically, All things being equal… Women would prefer a taller man. Well… So what? How often are all things equal?

I am presently at a shopping mall.. I see scores of men who are under 5”10” walking around with an attractive girlfriend.

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

You make a good point. If height was the be all and end all, eventually shorter than average men would be bred out of the gene pool.

It's funny, because they are. In the last 50 years, the average height has shot up. Even in countries which never had malnourishment problems, such as the Scandinavian countries. The only other explanation is that women are choosing taller and taller partners to breed with.

The caveat though, is that short is a relative term. No matter how tall the average population gets, it will always follow a normal distribution - that means short men will always exist. A 5'10" man might be average today, but in a 100 years he will be short.

Not if a man is unattractive or has a bad personality, they’re not.

What you were saying is, basically, All things being equal… Women would prefer a taller man. Well… So what? How often are all things equal?

I am presently at a shopping mall.. I see scores of men who are under 5”10” walking around with an attractive girlfriend.

Women will ignore a "bad" (subjective assessment) personality if he's tall enough. "Not if a man is unattractive" So what you're saying is you have to be tall AND attractive? Thanks for proving my point.

No, even when things are not equal height is one of the topmost priorities. Not all features are weighted equally. For almost 100% of women, the man needs to at least be taller than her. Research has shown that the happiest couples have an 8 inch height difference.

Other than the fact that most people can't judge height accurately, what you're seeing is confirmation bias. You're seeing the scores of men who are under 5'10" walking around with an attractive (subjective assessment) girlfriend. What you're not seeing is the thousands of men without one. And none of this disproves research, your personal anecdotes are meaningless in this context.

 

[BillyWalrus]

It's funny, because they are. In the last 50 years, the average height has shot up.

That may be true but in my own case, none of my four children are tall except for my oldest daughter who is a few inches shorter than me. Both my sons are relatively short but it does not seem to have harmed them in any way in life. So even with tall men breeding children, nevertheless plenty of short people are still being born. (Their mother is barely five feet tall.)

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

That may be true but in my own case, none of my four children are tall except for my oldest daughter who is a few inches shorter than me. Both my sons are relatively short but it does not seem to have harmed them in any way in life. So even with tall men breeding children, nevertheless plenty of short people are still being born. (Their mother is barely five feet tall.)

Good for you but as a man, your height severely influences your life. It influences your professional life, social life and sexual life. Your personal anecdote has no bearing on decades of peer reviewed research.

Speaking of anecdotes, how tall are you?

 

[BillyWalrus]

Good for you but as a man, your height severely influences your life. It influences your professional life, social life and sexual life. Your personal anecdote has no bearing on decades of peer reviewed research.

Speaking of anecdotes, how tall are you?

I am a little over 6'2". The only time I think it has helped me is playing sports as a child and young man.

 

[LMWM321]

Women will ignore a "bad" (subjective assessment) personality if he's tall enough.

Seriously?? Where do you get this?? I'm beginning to think you're just trolling.

You do realize only 15% of men are 6' or taller, right?? So does this mean 85% of women remain single just because all the "tall" men are taken? Of course not. And most of these women are self-aware enough to know they aren't perfect, either. Are you suggestion they expect a man to overlook their physical imperfections while not willing to overlook a man's?

You're either a troll, or just looking to blame your single-status on your height.

 

[ILoveMilfs69]

I am a little over 6'2". The only time I think it has helped me is playing sports as a child and young man.

I just find it funny that your wife, who is 5'0" (4 inches shorter than the female average) got with you who is 6'2" (4 inches taller than the male average).

You may feel like those are the only advantages you've had but trust me, your height has helped you more than you can ever imagine. Statistically speaking, taller men earn more money than their shorter counterparts. They're more likely to be promoted at work. Your wife is much less likely to shit test you because she respects you (or more like she respects your height). There's much more but you get the gist of it.

Seriously?? Where do you get this?? I'm beginning to think you're just trolling.

You do realize only 15% of men are 6' or taller, right?? So does this mean 85% of women remain single just because all the "tall" men are taken? Of course not. And most of these women are self-aware enough to know they aren't perfect, either. Are you suggestion they expect a man to overlook their physical imperfections while not willing to overlook a man's?

You're either a troll, or just looking to blame your single-status on your height.

No I think YOU are trolling here. 85% of women don't remain single, they share the same tall men. That's the reason why "Are we dating the same men?" groups exist. Not to mention so many women are single these days. They'd rather stay single than date a short man. Even if they're dating a short man, it's always out of pity like Eva said. They're going in with the mentality of "giving" him a chance so the relationship is always on edge.

Yes, women absolutely expect you to overlook their physical imperfections. Why do you think they've hijacked the body positivity movement? It was never meant for fat women who can't control their urges. It was for acid attack victims, workplace accident victims etc. People who CAN'T control certain aspects of their body, not people who WON'T control. And no, they won't overlook your flaws. They want a tall man. It's like a trophy for them to show off to their friends. Not having one fills them with unhappiness.

Stop taking this so personally and stop insulting me. If you can't have a civilized conversation without resorting to personal insults GTFOH.

 

[BillyWalrus]

I just find it funny that your wife, who is 5'0" (4 inches shorter than the female average) got with you who is 6'2" (4 inches taller than the male average).

Well, she is my ex wife but we remain friends on good terms with each other. I always found petite women very attractive. Are men attracted to shorter women?