The future is dense, walkable cities.

[Chernosoth]

Does not suburbia pay the taxes that foot the bill for their infrastructure

No, it doesn't. Suburbia is run on debt (and nonrenewable resources), like everything else we can't afford.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

*chuckle*

Our cities need to be reordered to be more like our European cousins long past where the poor had to go live outside of the castle walls...

... they can come in from time to time for labor or to spend the money of that labor at our fairs.

Bread and circuses, they things empires are built upon.

Empires are forever.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How to say you've never study history, without using those words.

Of course they lived outside the walls, it's pretty hard to build a fortified defensive building if you have to built walls around and defend hundreds of acres....

 

[JoePepsiCo]

And the cities are profit centers?

Nobody is in hock here when it comes to governance. Maybe in your neighborhood (or mind)...

 

[JoePepsiCo]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How to say you've never study history, without using those words.

Of course they lived outside the walls, it's pretty hard to build a fortified defensive building if you have to built walls around and defend hundreds of acres....

Comprehension is your weak suit. Stop attempting it and just go back to frothing and foaming at the mouth.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Cycling and pedestrian improvements in Carmel Indiana. Nice.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Comprehension is your weak suit. Stop attempting it and just go back to frothing and foaming at the mouth.

Maybe it's your weak sauce writing?

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Cycling and pedestrian improvements in Carmel Indiana. Nice.

We have bike lanes on almost all of our streets. They are mostly deserted and even more so when it rains or gets cold.

 

[MajorRewrite]

We have bike lanes on almost all of our streets. They are mostly deserted and even more so when it rains or gets cold.

Protected Bike Lane Statistics

The section titled “if you build it, people will ride” provides many examples of dramatic cycling increases where good infrastructure is built.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

And the cities are profit centers?

Yes, dumbass. Cities are more profitable and cost effective across the board.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

We have bike lanes on almost all of our streets. They are mostly deserted and even more so when it rains or gets cold.

Are they protected bike lanes or just paint? Unless there are physical barriers to prevent drivers from swerving into them, they’re dangerous and should be avoided.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Well, we can look at the data from 270 million Americans or we can go with the anecdotal evidence of you and your rural neighbors.

Which is more convincing?

Who created the data and what was their agenda?

 

[TrailerHitch]

Yes, dumbass. Cities are more profitable and cost effective across the board.

Especially now, right...With many reducing city services to fund the arrival of all the illegal immigrants. Yeah, the money is just rolling in...

 

[TrailerHitch]

Are they protected bike lanes or just paint? Unless there are physical barriers to prevent drivers from swerving into them, they’re dangerous and should be avoided.

And asshole bike riders that believe they have the right to ride 3 abreast in traffic lanes designed for cars to drive 55 mph isn't a hazard...

 

[MajorRewrite]

Who created the data and what was their agenda?

You forgot to use the lunacy font and punctuation: wHAt waS THeIR AGenDA???!?.??

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

And asshole bike riders that believe they have the right to ride 3 abreast in traffic lanes designed for cars to drive 55 mph isn't a hazard...

No urban road should be designed for cars to travel 55mph. Driving that fast should be confined to controlled-access highways.

 

[TrailerHitch]

No urban road should be designed for cars to travel 55mph. Driving that fast should be confined to controlled-access highways.

You live in your own little word don't you?

 

[AlexBailey]

You live in your own little word don't you?

I live in California. Regardless of any incoming migration, regardless of any accusations of democratic mismanagement of the cities or rural areas, CA still out performs the rest of the states. Facts are more stubborn than right wing rhetoric.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kathar...-contributing-the-most-to-us-gdp-infographic/

“Diving deeper, California is way ahead of other states when comparing contributions to U.S. GDP with population size. While 11.7% of Americans live in California per the latest Census data, the state contributed 14.2% to U.S. GDP in Q1 of 2023.”

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You live in your own little word don't you?

I live next to several streets with 3 lanes of traffic in both directions. Pedestrians have been killed by careless drivers while crossing them. The speed limit is 45, but people regularly ignore it because the streets were designed for driving faster.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I live next to several streets with 3 lanes of traffic in both directions. Pedestrians have been killed by careless drivers while crossing them. The speed limit is 45, but people regularly ignore it because the streets were designed for driving faster.

We can agree that pedestrians have the right of way, especially in traffic signal/walk signal roadways. But, and it is a huge BUT, that does not resolve the pedestrian of any responsibility for their own safety. Even with a walk indicator I look both ways, often twice before I head out across the street. There is no accounting for the actions of others that are distracted, drunk, high, homicidal, or whatever. Honestly a healthy mistrust of most people you encounter is a good survival technique, especially on the road.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I live in California. Regardless of any incoming migration, regardless of any accusations of democratic mismanagement of the cities or rural areas, CA still out performs the rest of the states. Facts are more stubborn than right wing rhetoric.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kathar...-contributing-the-most-to-us-gdp-infographic/

“Diving deeper, California is way ahead of other states when comparing contributions to U.S. GDP with population size. While 11.7% of Americans live in California per the latest Census data, the state contributed 14.2% to U.S. GDP in Q1 of 2023.”

I honestly don't care about California at all. I've been there and feel no need to ever return. In fact if there was a national call for people to bring chain saws to cut California loose and push it out to sea I'd be on the way. (Just so you don't think I'm serious about the chain saw comment it is a reference to a Bugs Bunny cartoon.)

 

[AlexBailey]

I honestly don't care about California at all. I've been there and feel no need to ever return. In fact if there was a national call for people to bring chain saws to cut California loose and push it out to sea I'd be on the way. (Just so you don't think I'm serious about the chain saw comment it is a reference to a Bugs Bunny cartoon.)

And yet if CA was cut loose, the numbers listed in the Forbes article shows that the rest of the US would be less well off.

California as a state is the greatest economic engine of the country. We as a state support others. It’s up to you if you want to cut off your nose to spite your face.

 

[TrailerHitch]

And yet if CA was cut loose, the numbers listed in the Forbes article shows that the rest of the US would be less well off.

California as a state is the greatest economic engine of the country. We as a state support others. It’s up to you if you want to cut off your nose to spite your face.

We could live without you. But let's take all the military bases and other federal jobs from California and see how long you last.

Greatest economic engine? Is that because of the sales surge in sidewalk pooper scoopers?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

We could live without you.

Where specifically is the "we" in this statement?

 

[Chernosoth]

And the cities are profit centers?

Nobody is in hock here when it comes to governance. Maybe in your neighborhood (or mind)...

The most obvious layer of debt is the federal subsidies. And then there is the fictional wealth, the vast amounts of collateralized debt obligations, mortgage backed securities, and derivatives of derivatives that become wiping paper and digital zeroes when loans are defaulted and corporations have mass bankruptcy. The big cities will get mostly the same hammering, with varying results. The older cities with durable locations and human scaled infrastructure will mostly survive. The communities with strong bones may get leaner. The communities with just fat all the way through don't have much to hold them together.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Where specifically is the "we" in this statement?

The rest of the United States. Is that clear enough for your simpleton brain?