They've got it bad, so bad for Hillary

[Sean Renaud]

Press Release from the Social Security Administration

Washington Post on the 2015 COLA for Social Security

Interesting. Thank you kindly.

No, she's career-pol incarnate; not quite the same thing.

Not even close. I honestly don't understand the hate that Hil gets from people.

 

[RjThoughts]

Interesting. Thank you kindly.



Not even close. I honestly don't understand the hate that Hil gets from people.

1. She's the wife of Bill, the man who turned a profit for the government with his common sense raising of taxes;

2. She's a woman who stayed with her philandering husband;

3. She's a Democrat who isn't a robot wife.

 

[hazbeen]

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10...ghazi-investigation-plot-hillary-clinton.html

what you really mean is

DUMZ can do anything at all

The IRS can audit EVERY ONE of Romneys biggerst donors

Reid can go on Senate floor and say Romney didnt pay taxes and when shown its not true, say SO WHAT? HE LOST, DIDNT HE?

Romny can be accused of causing the CANCER death of a woman

But DUMZ cant AXE questions of an SOS who KILLED AN AMBASSADOR!

 

[hazbeen]

Investigation into Hillary's email server focuses on Espionage Act and could get her 10 years in jail as FBI agent says she could be prosecuted just for failing to tell Obama
Federal law makes it a crime for security clearance holders to fail to tell superiors when 'gross negligence' causes a security breach
FBI agent tells DailyMail.com about Hillary Clinton: 'The secretary's superior is the President of the United States'
'So unless he were aware of what she was doing when she was doing it, it seems there could be a legal problem [for her]'
Obama was asked Sunday on '60 Minutes' if he knew at the time that Clinton was running a home-brew email server; he replied, 'No'
More on Hillary Clinton's email scandal at www.dailymail.co.uk/hillary


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-just-failing-tell-Obama.html#ixzz3okcRO5V7
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[hazbeen]

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[BotanyBoy]

No, she's career-pol incarnate; not quite the same thing.

Close enough.

Not even close. I honestly don't understand the hate that Hil gets from people.

So you're saying she's not a career politician? LMFAO W/e you've been slobbing her knob since there was so much as a whiff of her running and nothing short of her being beaten by Sanders will pull you off it. Which I admit is unlikely, especially with so much of the LW media trying to destroy Sanders for her royal highness.

1. She's the wife of Bill, the man who turned a profit for the government with his common sense raising of taxes;

2. She's a woman who stayed with her philandering husband;

3. She's a Democrat who isn't a robot wife.

How about she' couldn't be a more blatant 1% dick sucking establishment Democrat??

Or the fact that every time she's asked something difficult she pulls a slimy used car salesman act and just talks about something else until she thinks you've forgotten the question?

She represents the status quo.....she is the reason people like Sanders and Trump are soooo fucking appealing to America right now. You want more of the same ol shit? More of the 1% running everything? Vote Hillary.....she IS the plutocracy/aristocracy that EVERYONE hates so fucking much.

If you want any hope of something other than the usual democrat lip service while we all get fucked (like with ACA) and someone who's going to go in and actually try to do something for the average American?

Sanders.......not Hillary.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Slobbing her knob? Please. I don't even like her, I just don't understand the hatred. Yes, Bernie winning would be awesome I've never denied it. But Hillary doesn't bother me. Nor does Bush, Romney, Perry, Chafee, or Kasinch (however it's spelled).

And yes she is a career politician. Nobody who isn't has any business getting close to being president. That's absolute insanity.

 

[lovecraft68]

How about she' couldn't be a more blatant 1% dick sucking establishment Democrat??

Or the fact that every time she's asked something difficult she pulls a slimy used car salesman act and just talks about something else until she thinks you've forgotten the question?

She represents the status quo.....she is the reason people like Sanders and Trump are soooo fucking appealing to America right now. You want more of the same ol shit? More of the 1% running everything? Vote Hillary.....she IS the plutocracy/aristocracy that EVERYONE hates so fucking much.

If you want any hope of something other than the usual democrat lip service while we all get fucked (like with ACA) and someone who's going to go in and actually try to do something for the average American?

Sanders.......not Hillary.

I 100% endorse this post

But allow me to throw in one more word Benghazi.

 

[Sean Renaud]

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How about she' couldn't be a more blatant 1% dick sucking establishment Democrat??

Or the fact that every time she's asked something difficult she pulls a slimy used car salesman act and just talks about something else until she thinks you've forgotten the question?

She represents the status quo.....she is the reason people like Sanders and Trump are soooo fucking appealing to America right now. You want more of the same ol shit? More of the 1% running everything? Vote Hillary.....she IS the plutocracy/aristocracy that EVERYONE hates so fucking much.

If you want any hope of something other than the usual democrat lip service while we all get fucked (like with ACA) and someone who's going to go in and actually try to do something for the average American?

Sanders.......not Hillary.

I 100% endorse this post

But allow me to throw in one more word Benghazi.

Benghazi? You mean that thing where after years of searching it's been found repeatedly she did nothing wrong and you just hate her because she's a Democrat?

Sorry, stopped reading when you weren't talking to me. Happens and I apologize.

Here's the wrinkle that proves that (and I don't think you think this, I think you've simply got an opinion on how the public perceives this) Americans are really fucking dumb. Sanders does represent a break from the status quo. Trump. . .not so much. With a few differences (his tax plan is just bad, but it's not Republican. It's a case of when Republicans and Democrats both say your plan is shit it's entirely possible that it's shit. IT's not "hey everybody hates me clearly I'm correct!" Which is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard multiple people preach.) He seems to support Obamacare except for the part where he wants his name on it for the next century and has supported UHC in the past. Beyond those two things Trump is a status Quo Republican with all the filters cut out. All the shit you're not supposed to say like "Bitch must be on her period to come at me like that." He says and people gobble it up. Because stupid.

Sanders is a genuine "break" from the Status quo, at least as much as is possible for Americans. Now must of us still think he's got that Paul swagger, sure a bunch of kids are screaming his name but it won't matter because they're outnumbered by others. People for example who don't want to lose. Only 47% of Americans say they would vote for a socialst. And lets be honest most of that 47% are Dems. This is important. Go listen to Republicans and how they howl about how they keep howling that Bush (depending on their mood) McCain and Romney are all RINOs and that a real conservative would win this nation with ease. The reality is real conservatives can't even win their own fucking party because American's aren't that radical right now, probably never were but we're talking about the now.

America is a center right country, however that's only important when we're comparing ourselves to other countries. Democrats would be conservative if they wandered into Canada or the UK. We're still "centrist" by our own standards.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Sanders.......not Hillary.

Sanders is a career pol too, it's one of the very many things that make him preferable to Trump. We need career pols running things. Government at the top levels is no business for amateurs, however talented.

 

[werwolf]

America is a center right country, however that's only important when we're comparing ourselves to other countries. Democrats would be conservative if they wandered into Canada or the UK. We're still "centrist" by our own standards.

Depends on the field in question and who we are being compared to. We're definitely to the right of Western Europe in just about everything. Some places, we are to the left socially and to the right economically.

Some of my foreign relatives have opinions on homosexuality, feminism, and "law and order" that would make FOX News blush. But they really, really cannot understand why the USA is debating having a functional health care system at all. Not even what kind-*at all*. They just don't get it.

 

[werwolf]

Not even close. I honestly don't understand the hate that Hil gets from people.

Same reason that Nixon was hated by many, really. Hillary isn't charming or gregarious like Bill. (And if I were her chief advisor, I'd advise her to stop trying.) She's cold, she's Machiavellian, has a not entirely unearned reputation for sleaziness and dirty tricks, and seems "artificial".

I'm not saying this is a bad thing-I'd rather have had Hillary Clinton as our President in 2009 above anybody else. But it tends to rub a lot of people in the USA the wrong way.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I have no first hand knowlege of Nixon but atleast that answer sounds kinda accurate. Basically people get that she's playing to win.

 

[werwolf]

I have no first hand knowlege of Nixon but atleast that answer sounds kinda accurate. Basically people get that she's playing to win.

What won Nixon the race in 1968 was the fact that he didn't try to be charming or likeable-he instead touted his experience and his "coldness". That's exactly what people wanted in 1968 for understandable reasons, the opposite of hopeful, optimistic 1960 which he lost to JFK. And you see a rough parallel in the difference between 2008 and 2016. That's Hillary's biggest weapon, even if she doesn't realize it.

She also prefer private scrapping rather than public speeches, if you get what I mean. Again, nothing wrong with that, but in American culture, that makes her vulnerable.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yea. . .okay. She seems to love public battle. She fucking rocks there. If she hates it because she's dumb and she doesn't appear dumb.

 

[werwolf]

Yea. . .okay. She seems to love public battle. She fucking rocks there. If she hates it because she's dumb and she doesn't appear dumb.

Oh, no, Hillary is not stupid. She's clearly very intelligent, and even the myriad Hillary haters would never say she is unintelligent. Their chief tropes, calling her Machiavellian and hypocritical, often imply the opposite. Again, another thing she shares in common with Richard Nixon-Nixon was literally accused of everything under the sun except being stupid for a reason.

Then again, intelligence in American politics doesn't always get you to the top. A lot of smart people are terrible at politics for a reason.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I 100% endorse this post

But allow me to throw in one more word Benghazi.

No....sorry....you listen to Rush and watch FOX WAYYYYYYYYYY to much buddy.

Sanders is a career pol too, it's one of the very many things that make him preferable to Trump. We need career pols running things. Government at the top levels is no business for amateurs, however talented.

Yes he is, but he's not anywhere near as slimy or as obviously lacking spine as Clinton....like night and fuckin' day. He fucking answers her questions better than she does simply because she CAN'T!!

No I don't support the concept that only a career pol should hold office. Plenty of folks both civilian and military who know how the government works because they have been in or do business with it on some level. That's every bit as valid qualification as getting a law degree from an ivy league school. Which is all most of those twats start out with as qualifications when put into office in the first place.

 

[Sean Renaud]

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No I don't support the concept that only a career pol should hold office. Plenty of folks both civilian and military who know how the government works because they have been in or do business with it on some level. That's every bit as valid qualification as getting a law degree from an ivy league school. Which is all most of those twats start out with as qualifications when put into office in the first place.

No it is not every bit as valid. No more so than the guy who runs the PX on a military base has business conducting field exercises because he deals with the military on some level. But notbody actually said law degree from an ivy school. I'd be happy for mayor>Rep>Senator and/or Governor>President. But really you should start with a law degree since you should spend time in the Congress writing laws.

The government is far too complex to let a bunch of scruffy nerfherders have their hand at it. And this was true 225 years ago. They didn't codify it probably because it was such a no brainer it didn't need codifying. (Which may be a blessing in disguise since they probably would have tied to voting given half a chance but still).

 

[BotanyBoy]

No it is not every bit as valid. No more so than the guy who runs the PX on a military base has business conducting field exercises because he deals with the military on some level.

If he can run a PX he can oversee a field exercise....good leadership has little to do with esotaric technical bullshit. That's what the E1-7's are for. Shit ain't fucking rocket science and neither is saying yay/nay to some shit ball legislation some other community organizer wrote up.

You want them up on a pedestal? Fine, I'm not buying it though.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If he can run a PX he can oversee a field exercise....good leadership has little to do with esotaric technical bullshit. That's what the E1-7's are for. Shit ain't fucking rocket science and neither is saying yay/nay to some shit ball legislation some other community organizer wrote up.

You want them up on a pedestal? Fine, I'm not buying it though.

Right. If he can run a 7-11 he can storm Normandy. I'm out, have fun.

It's not a pedastal though, I wouldn't trust someone Ben Carson to run a hotel, Donald Trump to drill my teeth or Niel DeGrass Tyson to cut my hair. I have this horrible habit of thinking that people should be able to do a job.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Right. If he can run a 7-11 he can storm Normandy. I'm out, have fun.

It's not a pedastal though, I wouldn't trust someone Ben Carson to run a hotel, Donald Trump to drill my teeth or Niel DeGrass Tyson to cut my hair. I have this horrible habit of thinking that people should be able to do a job.

I've seen school teachers and 7-11 owners actually lead combat operations, quite successfully I might add, you probably have too.

So why couldn't uber CEO or government official outside the elected official ranks not run for office and be a kick ass leader?

Don't let the door hit ya.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

amazing how you idiots love a liar

its like how many women does Bill have to get preggers before you wake the fuck up in the FACT that the clinton's are cheaters

 

[KingOrfeo]

I've seen school teachers and 7-11 owners actually lead combat operations, quite successfully I might add, you probably have too.

Not, I hope, until after they had been through some kind of officer-training program, at least superficially covering all the "technical bullshit."

 

[KingOrfeo]

So why couldn't uber CEO or government official outside the elected official ranks not run for office and be a kick ass leader?

At the presidential level, because a POTUS has to deal with all the pols in Congress. Obama was a experienced pol before his presidency and has had enough trouble there; I can't see a political outsider doing it nearly as well. LBJ was a more effective president than JFK because he had more experience in Congress, enough to wheel and deal and actually get enacted the civil-rights legislation JFK could only talk about.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not, I hope, until after they had been through some kind of officer-training program, at least superficially covering all the "technical bullshit."

NOPE IMPOSSIBLE!!! Everyone is relegated to only ONE skill set......

At the presidential level, because a POTUS has to deal with all the pols in Congress.

So? They are just people.......

Obama was a experienced pol before his presidency

No he was NOT, he was JV, bench warming cherry ass senator.....the guy hadn't really done a fucking thing before becoming POTUS.

and has had enough trouble there;

That's because black socialist = GOP obstructionism @ 11.

I can't see a political outsider doing it nearly as well. LBJ was a more effective president than JFK because he had more experience in Congress, enough to wheel and deal and actually get enacted the civil-rights legislation JFK could only talk about.

LBJ was more effective because he was a good ol' boy from Tejas and JFK was a bootlegging socialist. Personally I think he was assassinated because he was 'dangerously' left.

BTW quite a few of the greatest POTUS's in our history were NOT career politician lawyers, they were military. Including LBJ and JFK.