To win, we need to demonize conservatism

[lovecraft68]

We never get rid of the useful and division is the most useful of political tools.

I am me. I am not a group.

Right, which means you would vote for a party that appeals more to you, and when one side's tactic is to say anyone voting the other way is racist and evil, is that the side you want to vote for?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Hate is easy.


Finding Common Ground takes a bit of work and the suspension of Old Ideas.


Acceptance is more effort still.

 

[AceDesSpades]

No one would have you.


Well, Wat would.


What does that tell you???

Neither one of us want to be a member of any group that would have us, to borrow on some old self-pejorative humor.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Right, which means you would vote for a party that appeals more to you, and when one side's tactic is to say anyone voting the other way is racist and evil, is that the side you want to vote for?

Would you please translate that into your point?

 

[AceDesSpades]

Hate is easy.


Finding Common Ground takes a bit of work and the suspension of Old Ideas.


Acceptance is more effort still.

Dat in a holy writ somewhere? Sanskrit?

 

[Rebel5soul]

Dat in a holy writ somewhere? Sanskrit?

Written on tenement walls.

 

[lovecraft68]

What I see from conservatives-most-is when they look at liberals its with a head shake and even some sadness. "They don't know any better" 'They listen to the wrong people" "Its the fault of the now indoctrinated education pushed by progressives" and along those lines. I do not see nearly the level of hate, and what they hope is people wake up and give their side a chance.

Many woke up this time around. Acedespades is right, if something works you beat it like a dead horse. But when shown it no longer works, you need to now pivot. Days after a serious beat down they are doubling down on every reason they lost. They cannot get it through their heads that identity politics and no platform other than calling people names, branding them as evil, and middle school level behavior cost them and will continue to do so.

I live in RI which is heavily blue. Trump picked up 43% here and if you knew this state you'd be like "Whoa!" This state keeps up with the sanctuary city crap and pushing all the trans agendas and by 208-if not 26-this state could flip

 

[AceDesSpades]

I saw a picture this morning of Kamala's portrait being painted over in ironic red...

 

[lovecraft68]

Would you please translate that into your point?

Point is, if you're an independent, are you going with a party based on certain beliefs, or you going with the side that's platform is if you don't vote for me, you're a racist and you're dead to me.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[lovecraft68]

I saw a picture this morning of Kamala's portrait being painted over in ironic red...

Saw that too, and wasn't sure if it was real, because that's where we are these days.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Point is, if you're an independent, are you going with a party based on certain beliefs, or you going with the side that's platform is if you don't vote for me, you're a racist and you're dead to me.

Beliefs
Rand and Mises
and all that jazz – voted for Oliver

 

[AceDesSpades]

Saw that too, and wasn't sure if it was real, because that's where we are these days.

I think the building was just going back to its original color.
It's the bookend to that blue picture of Trump.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

There oughta be an amendment to prohibit painting shit pictures of politicians on publicly viewable structures.


It weakens the masonry . . . .

 

[AceDesSpades]

Inner-city HOA

Then the rats and cockroaches will flee and the cities can go back to purple...

 

[lovecraft68]

There oughta be an amendment to prohibit painting shit pictures of politicians on publicly viewable structures.


It weakens the masonry . . . .

Especially when people are afraid-in some regions-to put a Trump bumper sticker on their car for fear of vandalism, but these clowns can paint a full mural on a building.
It would have been more fun just to see graffiti all over it, because that's what most buildings look like in major dem cities.

 

[AceDesSpades]

... and all of the rolling stock passing by the river as it rolls lazily past town...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Especially when people are afraid-in some regions-to put a Trump bumper sticker on their car for fear of vandalism, but these clowns can paint a full mural on a building.
It would have been more fun just to see graffiti all over it, because that's what most buildings look like in major dem cities.

I would never do a party-based political sticker or yard sign. I fly either the Rebellious Stripes/Sons of Liberty banner or the 1775 Navy Jack. That's in the city. In the country, it's the Rebellious Stripes and the Anarchy/Red-and Black banners. No one fucks with them, mostly because they don't know what I'm doing.


I do cars. I like hot rods and antiques. There are antique car guys, restorers, high-lift truck guys, tuners, hoopdie guys, low-riders, rat rodders, old school hot rodders - there's all kinds of stuff and people. I like some of what's out there, dislike some, and am ambivalent to some. I like all the people - they're all Car Guys. And we are all Americans. It would be nice if we'd star acting that way.

 

[AceDesSpades]

I would never do a party-based political sticker or yard sign. I fly either the Rebellious Stripes/Sons of Liberty banner or the 1775 Navy Jack. That's in the city. In the country, it's the Rebellious Stripes and the Anarchy/Red-and Black banners. No one fucks with them, mostly because they don't know what I'm doing.


I do cars. I like hot rods and antiques. There are antique car guys, restorers, high-lift truck guys, tuners, hoopdie guys, low-riders, rat rodders, old school hot rodders - there's all kinds of stuff and people. I like some of what's out there, dislike some, and am ambivalent to some. I like all the people - they're all Car Guys. And we are all Americans. It would be nice if we'd star acting that way.

I agree, but then, I find printed Tees in public to be low-brow. I will wear a t-shirt and jeans, plain and humble.

All that big political talk ain't worth doodley-squat...

virtue signs/smoke signals

 

[Rebel5soul]

I agree, but then, I find printed Tees in public to be low-brow. I will wear a t-shirt and jeans, plain and humble.

All that big political talk ain't worth doodley-squat...

virtue signs/smoke signals

Come on, some are cool. I have one that I like, it says, "300 WinMag because rocks are ineffective at 1000 meters."

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I agree, but then, I find printed Tees in public to be low-brow. I will wear a t-shirt and jeans, plain and humble.

All that big political talk ain't worth doodley-squat...

virtue signs/smoke signals

Your Xmas prezzie:


https://www.maturelion.com/cdn/shop/products/7_f27056f3-f4b6-4583-90c3-bf818e6c39d5-922877.png?v=1710847349&width=800

 

[AceDesSpades]

Mine would say

Don't ask me what I think about you...​

 

[Rebel5soul]

Mine would say

Don't ask me what I think about you...​

Fleetwood Mac before they went coed.

 

[AceDesSpades]

*chuckle*

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Fleetwood Mac before they went coed.

Peter Green!!!!